|
Post by AxelSmackdown on Apr 11, 2023 21:05:02 GMT -5
They can’t make the stage and all five figures with less than 11,000 backers. What don’t people understand about this? ok then make it 11k backers and it all gets made or nothing does. 7k backers only getting 2-3 figs with the stage isn’t worth $400
|
|
|
Post by AxelSmackdown on Apr 11, 2023 21:06:50 GMT -5
I could actually see people moving the goal posts if Steiner gets included early and it doesn’t make enough difference; “If it was the Warrior/DDP instead of Steiner this would easily fund……” no they would say if it was DDP in jeans it would’ve been 20k by now
|
|
voicesinmyhead
Main Eventer
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Mar 4, 2009 19:21:00 GMT -5
Posts: 1,547
|
Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 11, 2023 21:08:58 GMT -5
Because 5k gets the stage. That’s what this is..a Nitro stage. Why would we willingly go to 10k minimum?! The figures are just the bonuses because the stage and rey are not worth $400 at a set price and set amount it either all gets backed and is worth $400 or nothing gets backed and no value is lost The sticker price for the stage and Rey is $400. If you don’t think it’s worth that then that’s your opinion and you don’t need to back it. But as many people have explained numerous times, the other figures are EXTRA and can only be produced if they get more revenue from more backers. If they could have give us more figures for the minimum numbers of backers then they would have. This is the best they could do with 5,000 backers. It’s not necessarily about the base price. It’s about the number of backers. People don’t seem to understand that the more of an item you produce the less the production cost would be. That is where there is room in the budget to make more figures. A limited run of only 5,000 is very costly. As you increase that number, the production costs go down. Pretty simple, but people just want more without understanding how this works.
|
|
voicesinmyhead
Main Eventer
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Mar 4, 2009 19:21:00 GMT -5
Posts: 1,547
|
Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 11, 2023 21:10:32 GMT -5
They can’t make the stage and all five figures with less than 11,000 backers. What don’t people understand about this? ok then make it 11k backers and it all gets made or nothing does. 7k backers only getting 2-3 figs with the stage isn’t worth $400 That’s your opinion.
|
|
|
Post by Ministry of Darkness on Apr 11, 2023 21:13:30 GMT -5
By the time everyone gets the crowdfund if it gets funded wouldn't Mattel have released Scott Steiner in either elite or Ultimate form by that time?
|
|
|
Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 11, 2023 21:14:29 GMT -5
They can’t make the stage and all five figures with less than 11,000 backers. What don’t people understand about this? ok then make it 11k backers and it all gets made or nothing does. 7k backers only getting 2-3 figs with the stage isn’t worth $400 I posted this elsewhere when asked why big toy companies are “raising money” via crowdfunds but I think it applies to what you’re talking about so I’ll post it here and hopefully it’ll clarify things a bit for those willing to give it a read. Think of yourselves in the role of traditional retail buyers. We’re trying to get the buyers (you guys in this case)interested in supporting the item to hit the minimum order quality for this item of 5K units. Minimum order quantity is the number of units negotiated to move forward at the agreed upon rate which allows this to be $400. Going under that number immediately causes costs to skyrocket and would require we increase the price. Going above that 5K allows better profitability and let’s us give that right back to you in the form of more unlockable figures. So we’re not raising money here, we’re trying to secure that minimum of 5K units in demands to be able to move ahead.
|
|
|
Post by Mongo Bears on Apr 11, 2023 21:14:32 GMT -5
Because 5k gets the stage. That’s what this is..a Nitro stage. Why would we willingly go to 10k minimum?! The figures are just the bonuses because the stage and rey are not worth $400 at a set price and set amount it either all gets backed and is worth $400 or nothing gets backed and no value is lost Admittedly so…and that’s why they have an early bird. And they also seem to be acknowledging their wrong choice and when Steiner is official then we’ll see
|
|
voicesinmyhead
Main Eventer
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Mar 4, 2009 19:21:00 GMT -5
Posts: 1,547
|
Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 11, 2023 21:15:27 GMT -5
By the time everyone gets the crowdfund if it gets funded wouldn't Mattel have released Scott Steiner in either elite or Ultimate form by that time? Probably. But they definitely aren’t announcing one until after the crowdfund. And maybe it’ll be WWF Steiner first. Who knows?
|
|
gwildor
Superstar
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Apr 11, 2023 20:12:24 GMT -5
Posts: 584
|
Post by gwildor on Apr 11, 2023 21:19:43 GMT -5
ok then make it 11k backers and it all gets made or nothing does. 7k backers only getting 2-3 figs with the stage isn’t worth $400 I posted this elsewhere when asked why big toy companies are “raising money” via crowdfunds but I think it applies to what you’re talking about so I’ll post it here and hopefully it’ll clarify things a bit for those willing to give it a read. Think of yourselves in the role of traditional retail buyers. We’re trying to get the buyers (you guys in this case)interested in supporting the item to hit the minimum order quality for this item of 5K units. Minimum order quantity is the number of units negotiated to move forward at the agreed upon rate which allows this to be $400. Going under that number immediately causes costs to skyrocket and would require we increase the price. Going above that 5K allows better profitability and let’s us give that right back to you in the form of more unlockable figures. So we’re not raising money here, we’re trying to secure that minimum of 5K units in demands to be able to move ahead. I know we ain’t getting Hogan now, but let’s reset this. Let’s put Steiner at 5k for the early backers which ends in a week and Warrior at 7k so we can get this thing rolling. Mysterio and DDP can be at 9 and 11k.
|
|
|
Post by AxelSmackdown on Apr 11, 2023 21:20:40 GMT -5
ok then make it 11k backers and it all gets made or nothing does. 7k backers only getting 2-3 figs with the stage isn’t worth $400 I posted this elsewhere when asked why big toy companies are “raising money” via crowdfunds but I think it applies to what you’re talking about so I’ll post it here and hopefully it’ll clarify things a bit for those willing to give it a read. Think of yourselves in the role of traditional retail buyers. We’re trying to get the buyers (you guys in this case)interested in supporting the item to hit the minimum order quality for this item of 5K units. Minimum order quantity is the number of units negotiated to move forward at the agreed upon rate which allows this to be $400. Going under that number immediately causes costs to skyrocket and would require we increase the price. Going above that 5K allows better profitability and let’s us give that right back to you in the form of more unlockable figures. So we’re not raising money here, we’re trying to secure that minimum of 5K units in demands to be able to move ahead. I understand how it works I just feel like a set group of items, set price, and set minimum backing amount would do better. I totally could be wrong about it but I’m just giving an opinion too basically. I just personally don’t see it hitting 11k and if it doesn’t I see a lot of people backing out including myself not thinking it’s worth it which will cause the numbers to drop
|
|
|
Post by kiloinnorcal on Apr 11, 2023 21:23:08 GMT -5
By the time everyone gets the crowdfund if it gets funded wouldn't Mattel have released Scott Steiner in either elite or Ultimate form by that time? Probably. But they definitely aren’t announcing one until after the crowdfund. And maybe it’ll be WWF Steiner first. Who knows? Haha wwf steiner probably on hiatus because of "brother" (not Hogan)
|
|
voicesinmyhead
Main Eventer
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Mar 4, 2009 19:21:00 GMT -5
Posts: 1,547
|
Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 11, 2023 21:26:36 GMT -5
I posted this elsewhere when asked why big toy companies are “raising money” via crowdfunds but I think it applies to what you’re talking about so I’ll post it here and hopefully it’ll clarify things a bit for those willing to give it a read. Think of yourselves in the role of traditional retail buyers. We’re trying to get the buyers (you guys in this case)interested in supporting the item to hit the minimum order quality for this item of 5K units. Minimum order quantity is the number of units negotiated to move forward at the agreed upon rate which allows this to be $400. Going under that number immediately causes costs to skyrocket and would require we increase the price. Going above that 5K allows better profitability and let’s us give that right back to you in the form of more unlockable figures. So we’re not raising money here, we’re trying to secure that minimum of 5K units in demands to be able to move ahead. I understand how it works I just feel like a set group of items, set price, and set minimum backing amount would do better. I totally could be wrong about it but I’m just giving an opinion too basically. I just personally don’t see it hitting 11k and if doesn’t I see a lot of people backing out not thinking it’s worth it which will cause the numbers to drop You don’t understand how it works. The set group of items IS the stage and Rey. Everything else is extra. With your scenario, the set group of items would be the stage and all five figures for X dollars with 11,000 backers. But if you reach a certain amount of excess backers, then you could produce another (6th figure). It’s the same scenario. You just don’t like the base offering. And that’s perfectly fine. That’s your opinion, you’re entitled to it, and you absolutely do not have to back this if you don’t think it’s worth it. However, don’t say you understand because they are doing what youre saying. They literally established a set group, set price, and set minimum.
|
|
arthur214
Mid-Carder
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Jan 10, 2019 18:54:58 GMT -5
Posts: 326
|
Post by arthur214 on Apr 11, 2023 21:26:41 GMT -5
The Warrior is my most wanted of the figures being offered. However, Steiner is the one that gets this backed. My hopes are that with Steiner in the base tier, the stage is funded which will then draw more folks in to hopefully get that last tier unlocked. Steiner gets my vote.
|
|
|
Post by CM Tusk on Apr 11, 2023 21:26:53 GMT -5
Steve, don’t listen to anyone. Keep Rey right where he is.
|
|
|
Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Apr 11, 2023 21:28:56 GMT -5
Why does it say I'm ineligible for the pay installments
|
|
|
Post by PJ on Apr 11, 2023 21:29:14 GMT -5
It won't let me add my card😡 trying to pay on my.debit with the pay every 2 weeks option. The cards got 120$ and awaiting ebay funds to cover the rest. Could this be the problem do I need the full 430$ in it to purchase? Help a playa out Shouldn’t be that’s what I did. And the payment for me was 4 payments of $110. And they took the first paymen as soon as I placed it.
|
|
TheFallen
Mid-Carder
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Jul 27, 2006 0:42:06 GMT -5
Posts: 124
|
Post by TheFallen on Apr 11, 2023 21:30:05 GMT -5
Voting with a click on IG doesn’t mean anything unless those same people add to cart on Mattel Creations and hits checkout.
|
|
|
Post by Mongo Bears on Apr 11, 2023 21:31:59 GMT -5
If you don’t think it’ll reach 11k then why the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) do you want a 11k minimum!?!?
|
|
voicesinmyhead
Main Eventer
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Joined on: Mar 4, 2009 19:21:00 GMT -5
Posts: 1,547
|
Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 11, 2023 21:35:11 GMT -5
If you don’t think it’ll reach 11k then why the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) do you want a 11k minimum!?!? Great question!
|
|
|
Post by Mongo Bears on Apr 11, 2023 21:36:18 GMT -5
If you don’t think it’ll reach 11k then why the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) do you want a 11k minimum!?!? Great question! Seriously…I’ve been here a while and I’m not sure I’ve heard a worse idea
|
|