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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 12, 2023 0:48:15 GMT -5
Which can come with other figures You know for a fact it's coming with other figures? Steve has not confirmed this. They aren't going to go through the effort and money to develop all new tooling and then just not use it.
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 12, 2023 0:54:05 GMT -5
Which can come with other figures You know for a fact it's coming with other figures? Steve has not confirmed this. I’m sure he put in all the effort to get rights to the belt for the first time in over 20 years to only release it on a gamble.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Apr 12, 2023 1:10:44 GMT -5
i've skipped the last couple pages because i just don't have the energy for it so i might have missed some info along the way, but...
if steve's poll is something meant to actually gauge interest and possibly switch tiers around...that eans there was some serious convincing at mattel because i can only assume that would mean them taking a hit on profit. for example: steiner was in his tier because that number of extra backers would essentially be paying for the molds for his new parts. so if he moves up, thats money mattel is more or less losing to help make this project work. and if thats the case, kudos to whoever did the convincing! i'm still not backing because money/space/lack of interest...but i also still hope it DOES get fully funded for everyone that does want it.
i hope that wasn't just senseless, repeated rambling. but i've had a few jack and cokes tonight so i figured i would throw my thoughts in and lost my train of thought several times
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Post by matgarza5 on Apr 12, 2023 1:22:22 GMT -5
i've skipped the last couple pages because i just don't have the energy for it so i might have missed some info along the way, but... if steve's poll is something meant to actually gauge interest and possibly switch tiers around...that eans there was some serious convincing at mattel because i can only assume that would mean them taking a hit on profit. for example: steiner was in his tier because that number of extra backers would essentially be paying for the molds for his new parts. so if he moves up, thats money mattel is more or less losing to help make this project work. and if thats the case, kudos to whoever did the convincing! i'm still not backing because money/space/lack of interest...but i also still hope it DOES get fully funded for everyone that does want it. i hope that wasn't just senseless, repeated rambling. but i've had a few jack and cokes tonight so i figured i would throw my thoughts in and lost my train of thought several times Lol it’s okay brotha but we need you to have a few more drinks and back the Nitro Stage haha. Seriously though they showed a video few days ago of the stage being able to reduce in size to help with the space issue. I agree this could be a huge turning point cause switching Poppa Pump to 5K tier along with Mysterio definitely shows Mattel is sacrificing profits to try and make fans happy and I 100% respect this. Thanks Steve for all your hard work and efforts
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Post by matgarza5 on Apr 12, 2023 1:26:18 GMT -5
I’ve been having some positive conversations. Check out my IG story to make sure your voice is heard. @actionfigureatack You the man Steve! 100% respect your efforts and trying as hard as you can to get this Nitro stage to 5K. Adding Big Poppa Pump is huge man and shows me your a real one brotha and I’ll always be loyal to Mattel and the WWE Mattel team for this. I’ll be backing a few more now cause of this wonderful news and y’all’s efforts.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Apr 12, 2023 1:50:21 GMT -5
i've skipped the last couple pages because i just don't have the energy for it so i might have missed some info along the way, but... if steve's poll is something meant to actually gauge interest and possibly switch tiers around...that eans there was some serious convincing at mattel because i can only assume that would mean them taking a hit on profit. for example: steiner was in his tier because that number of extra backers would essentially be paying for the molds for his new parts. so if he moves up, thats money mattel is more or less losing to help make this project work. and if thats the case, kudos to whoever did the convincing! i'm still not backing because money/space/lack of interest...but i also still hope it DOES get fully funded for everyone that does want it. i hope that wasn't just senseless, repeated rambling. but i've had a few jack and cokes tonight so i figured i would throw my thoughts in and lost my train of thought several times Lol it’s okay brotha but we need you to have a few more drinks and back the Nitro Stage haha. Seriously though they showed a video few days ago of the stage being able to reduce in size to help with the space issue. I agree this could be a huge turning point cause switching Poppa Pump to 5K tier along with Mysterio definitely shows Mattel is sacrificing profits to try and make fans happy and I 100% respect this. Thanks Steve for all your hard work and efforts trust me man, if i didn't have to drop almost 2 grand into my car recently, i'd probably have backed this project just based on how cool the entrance looks. but at the same time, as i said earlier in this thread(or maybe a different one), my haslab ghostbusters proton pack cost the same as this stage. thats something i've wanted to have for basically my whole life. so that was an easy $400 to drop no questions asked. but the stage, as cool as it is...its just not something i ever wanted. and especially not enough to spend that much on. but again, i DO hope it ends up meeting goals and getting made tl;dr...sometimes nerds need to pick and choose where their money goes
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 12, 2023 2:41:37 GMT -5
They can shift around the tiers a bit and include Steiner with the base but for most non Americans it still won’t be worth $626 plus shipping
Unless they roll out this change WITH an international fix it still probably won’t hit 5k
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Apr 12, 2023 2:59:32 GMT -5
By the time everyone gets the crowdfund if it gets funded wouldn't Mattel have released Scott Steiner in either elite or Ultimate form by that time? Probably. But they definitely aren’t announcing one until after the crowdfund. And maybe it’ll be WWF Steiner first. Who knows? True. If Rick Steiner is due in elite 104, Scotty can't be too far.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 12, 2023 3:21:44 GMT -5
They can shift around the tiers a bit and include Steiner with the base but for most non Americans it still won’t be worth $626 plus shipping Unless they roll out this change WITH an international fix it still probably won’t hit 5k This. And even if it DOES hit 5k, it probably won't reach any of the tiers. It's such a simple solution too: like last time, just charge everyone the same ($400) and add the shipping for their country. The bank or credit-card company will sort out the exchange rate - and you'll get a charge (depending on your country's import/customs laws) when the package is ready to be delivered. It's not rocket-science. 🤷♂️
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 12, 2023 4:04:42 GMT -5
Okay and who should be second?! The billionth warrior?!? The DDP is unnecessary true but it’s ultimate and the heads are better and the hands. The Hogan is cool it has new parts but nowhere near as good as the early bird last time Warrior. The other WCW Warrior is extremely hard to find and going for well over $100 on the secondary market. It’s a unique look for the character with an awesome duster that has been heavily requested. It will also produce jeans that tuck into cowboy boots tooling that will also give us SS02 HBK down the road. That warrior is also a prime candidate for a Best Of Ultimate Edition.
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Post by screech on Apr 12, 2023 4:06:05 GMT -5
THE NEW WORLD ORDER HAS JUST TAKEN OVER THE MONDAY NITRO CROWDFUND BROTHERS
Do one with all the Mattel Stingers ![](https://i.imgur.com/c23TKW3.jpg)
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 12, 2023 4:07:23 GMT -5
They can shift around the tiers a bit and include Steiner with the base but for most non Americans it still won’t be worth $626 plus shipping Unless they roll out this change WITH an international fix it still probably won’t hit 5k This. And even if it DOES hit 5k, it probably won't reach any of the tiers. It's such a simple solution too: like last time, just charge everyone the same ($400) and add the shipping for their country. The bank or credit-card company will sort out the exchange rate - and you'll get a charge (depending on your country's import/customs laws) when the package is ready to be delivered. It's not rocket-science. 🤷♂️ Some credit card companies won’t even charge you for foreign exchange purchases. Mattel have done absolutely everything wrong where international has been concerned. Like I’ve said. Let me pay my own customs next year. I don’t need to pay that money until it’s ready to be delivered. I’ll back 2.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 12, 2023 4:11:17 GMT -5
I've only been tangentially following this thread as I'm not backing this crowdfund, but one thing that's 100% in line with the New Gen Arena is that some people seem to have no conception of what large scale playlet items go for at retail in 2023. Something the size of the Nitro stage is easily a $350-$400 item at retail right now. Now, does that mean it's "worth it" to everyone personally? No. But in the reality of discussion retail, that is how much it would cost. And elites (as well as Hasbros LC, BS and ML lines) pushing 25 dollars has a lot of collectors cutting back their spending and picking and choosing more. My point is that just because 400 dollars is what it be at retail NOW does not mean people would be buying it. Inflation is a very real issue and handwaving it as just how things are now doesn't negate the damage Its doing and the effect it has on the consumer's ability/willingness to spend.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 12, 2023 4:13:54 GMT -5
Which can come with other figures You know for a fact it's coming with other figures? Steve has not confirmed this. They are about to start and entire line explicitly for the purpose of making WCW (and WWF) figures. It's pure logic that eventually that belt will end up in the line especially given their push in the last year or so to give us new belts (where the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) is my Light- Heavyweight title tho).
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 12, 2023 4:17:18 GMT -5
Do one with all the Mattel Stingers ![](https://i.imgur.com/c23TKW3.jpg) Quick - someone tell PJ... he might back another 2 or 3 🤭
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 12, 2023 4:21:00 GMT -5
This. And even if it DOES hit 5k, it probably won't reach any of the tiers. It's such a simple solution too: like last time, just charge everyone the same ($400) and add the shipping for their country. The bank or credit-card company will sort out the exchange rate - and you'll get a charge (depending on your country's import/customs laws) when the package is ready to be delivered. It's not rocket-science. 🤷♂️ Some credit card companies won’t even charge you for foreign exchange purchases. Mattel have done absolutely everything wrong where international has been concerned. Like I’ve said. Let me pay my own customs next year. I don’t need to pay that money until it’s ready to be delivered. I’ll back 2. Yep. Plus - at that time, you're so excited to be getting your set delivered soon, you're past caring about the customs charge 😄.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 12, 2023 4:42:08 GMT -5
No, just like the guy said in his original comment, they are subject to massive markups by 3rd party sellers over here because they have to be ordered through US 2ndary suppliers and then shipped over here to the UK. So they're not offered up directly by Mattel. Steve from Mattel said US exclusives are available to international retailers if they want them He said they are available to international brick and mortar retailers, IF they want them. That does not include online retailers because (and I have spoken to many of them), they have to get them through other means. Which means they are subject to increased costs. This includes Target, Walmart and other retail exclusives. No, just like the guy said in his original comment, they are subject to massive markups by 3rd party sellers over here because they have to be ordered through US 2ndary suppliers and then shipped over here to the UK. So they're not offered up directly by Mattel. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/361113/steve-aka-official-thread-discussion?q=international+retailersSteve has said a number of times in the Q&A thread that US exclusives can be ordered by international retailers directly from Mattel. If they dont carry them, that just means they passed on it and didnt want to order them. That's not the same thing as was being discussed. The original discussion was talking about online retailers (which is where we collectors get these exclusives), not physical, so when I quoted that discussion, it wasn't referring to physical retail. No physical retail in the UK stocks any of the US exclusives, so being offered means jack s*** because we can't get them through those means.
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 12, 2023 4:49:53 GMT -5
On IG Steve’s asked if a figure could be added to the base which would you want so I’d recommend those who want it should vote
Very split on this personally
Great that they’re trying to pull out possible ad ons to get it funded
However should it be successful it’ll be because 2 from 2 had additional stuff added which doesn’t bode well for the future
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Post by muuk76 on Apr 12, 2023 4:57:57 GMT -5
Do you just message Steve on Instagram with your choice then ?.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 12, 2023 5:00:47 GMT -5
On IG Steve’s asked if a figure could be added to the base which would you want so I’d recommend those who want it should vote Very split on this personally Great that they’re trying to pull out possible ad ons to get it funded However should it be successful it’ll be because 2 from 2 had additional stuff added which doesn’t bode well for the future It isn’t additional stuff this time. It’s was always budgeted to launch at $400 with 2 figures. The arbitrary date to get Hulk was mattel trying to get it funded through FOMO. But they misjudged that the figure they chose was desirable (as it was a rerelease) and also that they didn’t apply individual pressure to back. Guessing Hogan would still be offered and maybe moved to the 11k spot.
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