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Post by stormbreaker on Apr 29, 2023 9:12:13 GMT -5
Cardona tweeted this to drum up interest in the stage, but it seriously backfired. If anything, it shows just how small the stage is and somewhat cheap looking when set up in a regular home. I can’t justify $400+ for this. Plus it looks tiny compared to the ring…wtf. That pic reminds me of those old Micro Machines playsets.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 29, 2023 9:27:10 GMT -5
Cardona tweeted this to drum up interest in the stage, but it seriously backfired. If anything, it shows just how small the stage is and somewhat cheap looking when set up in a regular home. I can’t justify $400+ for this. Plus it looks tiny compared to the ring…wtf. Yeah I’m failing even more to see a $400 value here even with all 5 figs let alone the $626 non US people are being charged.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Apr 29, 2023 11:53:50 GMT -5
I bought 3 of these because - Love WCW - love the lights and scale size entrance - we have all wanted Scott Steiner forever and one never knows if he won't become available later (see Jeff Jarrett and Jay Strongbow! I would prefer to buy just one but believe in it that much that I see the value. It's all about the end game at this point. I wish Mattel would say in the last week ... we would give all figures and entrance for $400.00 if we hit $5,000 because I think it would put it over the top, and to get exclusive figures plus, this entrance for $400 would knock it out. In all likelihood, it would get to 9,000 or more because the game of chicken would be no more. "I don't want to do it unless I can get all". "I don't want to do it unless it looks like it's getting closer" etc ... All that would go away. Then Mattel can reuse the ultimate molds for the figures they make here to create a different paint app later for each one of these over time which would be available to the masses ... because the investors helped kick this off.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 29, 2023 12:02:56 GMT -5
I bought 3 of these because - Love WCW - love the lights and scale size entrance - we have all wanted Scott Steiner forever and one never knows if he won't become available later (see Jeff Jarrett and Jay Strongbow! I would prefer to buy just one but believe in it that much that I see the value. It's all about the end game at this point. I wish Mattel would say in the last week ... we would give all figures and entrance for $400.00 if we hit $5,000 because I think it would put it over the top, and to get exclusive figures plus, this entrance for $400 would knock it out. In all likelihood, it would get to 9,000 or more because the game of chicken would be no more. "I don't want to do it unless I can get all". "I don't want to do it unless it looks like it's getting closer" etc ... All that would go away. Then Mattel can reuse the ultimate molds for the figures they make here to create a different paint app later for each one of these over time which would be available to the masses ... because the investors helped kick this off. I was with you until you suggested that Mattel should include all five figures in the base offering. I can’t even believe people are still saying this. I can’t wait until this crowdfund is over (funded or not) just so I don’t have to read these nonsensical suggestions.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 29, 2023 12:24:48 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along).
But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people.
Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄).
Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48.
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Post by natureboyfauser on Apr 29, 2023 12:33:44 GMT -5
I bought 3 of these because - Love WCW - love the lights and scale size entrance - we have all wanted Scott Steiner forever and one never knows if he won't become available later (see Jeff Jarrett and Jay Strongbow! I would prefer to buy just one but believe in it that much that I see the value. It's all about the end game at this point. I wish Mattel would say in the last week ... we would give all figures and entrance for $400.00 if we hit $5,000 because I think it would put it over the top, and to get exclusive figures plus, this entrance for $400 would knock it out. In all likelihood, it would get to 9,000 or more because the game of chicken would be no more. "I don't want to do it unless I can get all". "I don't want to do it unless it looks like it's getting closer" etc ... All that would go away. Then Mattel can reuse the ultimate molds for the figures they make here to create a different paint app later for each one of these over time which would be available to the masses ... because the investors helped kick this off. I was with you until you suggested that Mattel should include all five figures in the base offering. I can’t even people people are still saying this. I can’t wait until this crowdfund is over (funded or not) just so I don’t have to read these nonsensical suggestions. I can't wait till it is over as well. The negativity is overwhelming. I understand Mattel said it will cost $400.00 with $5,000 units sold to be able to afford the entrance. They use these 5 figures as a means to entice us that much more to invest. Hulk, Warrior are already made as ultimates. A few modifications. DDP and Rey will probably be anyways ... Scott Steiner is new and time is of the essence to get as many of the Steiner's made as possible before their licensing deal ends. I keep referring to the end game. The goal is to get 5 thousand, 9 thousand, 11 thousand or more to the campaign. How do we do it? As it is right now it doesn't look like it's going to make it - even though I did my part and bought 3 to help ... so it's a suggestion. The worst case scenario is they don't make it. The 2nd worst scenario is that they have the investment to make the entrance ... which can be reused for others in the future ... and a base to make the figures (which will be eventually made in all likelihood will have a head start) The exclusivity of this line will have value that will have a positive residual value in the future. They can profit more off these ultimates later with a different design. The other scenario is that so many people jump in that the end game creates the ultimate goal it just took a different path to get there. .
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Post by natureboyfauser on Apr 29, 2023 12:35:40 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along). But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people. Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄). Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48. Bingo! People need more brotherly love! I looooooooove you! Let's make this WCW Entrance! Wooooo!
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Post by jong on Apr 29, 2023 12:57:43 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along). But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people. Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄). Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48. Amen
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Post by irishstrife on Apr 29, 2023 12:59:50 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along). But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people. Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄). Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48. Amen Double amen.
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Post by J-MANN on Apr 29, 2023 13:14:54 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along). But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people. Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄). Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48. Agreed on all accounts. And something else I’ll add is we’re lucky to have Steve. Someone who is one of us - just working on the inside. I highly doubt he will work at Mattel forever (selfishly I hope he does), and once/if that happens we won’t have anyone working for us to get things changed/suggested - and actually coming to this place and answering all the questions we have.
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Post by Elitemainia on Apr 29, 2023 13:48:07 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along). But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people. Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄). Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48. Preach it brother love. Your on point with everything you said. I backed 2 myself so ready for this to be over and hope it gets to 5k.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Apr 29, 2023 15:20:32 GMT -5
You guys might as well just block anyone with a differing opinion
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 29, 2023 15:42:38 GMT -5
You guys might as well just block anyone with a differing opinion #BlockThePoors
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 29, 2023 16:16:17 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along). But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people.Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄). Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48. Man alive... talk about blowing things out of all proportion, lol. Only one person mentioned false advertising... me. And that was because - as I've already mentioned - I didn't know where the photo was from (and that Steve had posted it). So yes, it appeared like it was false advertising. People just latch on to things though, I guess 🤷♂️.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 29, 2023 16:22:38 GMT -5
Backed 4, have tried avoiding this thread based on all the nonsensical suggestions and things of that nature (yes, including everyone complaining - and no, it’s not “constructive criticism” or warranted complaints if you aren’t even interested in backing the item. That’s like staying at the same store and comparing to all who walk buy the reasons you won’t buy the item. Not for you? The move along). But I’m ready for this thing to be over. Select members constant negativity has really just sucked the fun out of this thing. I’d be willing to bet the majority of this thread is people, who have stated they aren’t buying, just beating a dead horse and relating the same thing and wording it differently. Out of your price range/international customers/don’t personally see the value in it - that’s fine. Seems crazy to keep drumming up the same thing page after page though. First it’s too big, then it’s too small when they post pictures with the ring. Saying they want to see it posed with the ring, then posted with the ring and it’s false advertising. Can’t win for trying with some people.Bravo to Steve and the team, the items is beautiful and definitely a collectors dream. They listens and made the pivot they could adding Steiner. Making podcast appearances and even still coming to this place (for some reason 🙄). Friday will be interesting, for those wanting the stage (myself included) let’s hope it surges in the final 48. Man alive... talk about blowing things out of all proportion, lol. Only one person mentioned false advertising... me. And that was because - as I've already mentioned - I didn't know where the photo was from (and that Steve had posted it). So yes, it appeared like it was false advertising. People just latch on to things though, I guess 🤷♂️. I’ll be honest with you, I didn’t even know you’re the one who said it. That being said, I’ve seen it on Twitter also when discussing what comes with the offering. But if that’s the only thing you got from my post so be it. My point still stands, this place will find the ONE thing they can to complain about no matter what is done to rectify previous complaints.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 29, 2023 16:30:16 GMT -5
Man alive... talk about blowing things out of all proportion, lol. Only one person mentioned false advertising... me. And that was because - as I've already mentioned - I didn't know where the photo was from (and that Steve had posted it). So yes, it appeared like it was false advertising. People just latch on to things though, I guess 🤷♂️. I’ll be honest with you, I didn’t even know you’re the one who said it. That being said, I’ve seen it on Twitter also when discussing what comes with the offering. But if that’s the only thing you got from my post so be it. My point still stands, this place will find the ONE thing they can to complain about no matter what is done to rectify previous complaints. No worries... I didn't realize they'd been on about it on Twitter (...should have guessed though!).
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powerfred3k
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Post by powerfred3k on Apr 29, 2023 16:42:25 GMT -5
Why didn't mattel try to focus group this project ?
I can guarantee if they did people would have told them the price is too high.
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Post by savedbytheringbell on Apr 29, 2023 16:52:57 GMT -5
Why didn't mattel try to focus group this project ? I can guarantee if they did people would have told them the price is too high. Or that the WCW market is pretty small thanks mostly to WWE’s “creative” history rewriting
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 29, 2023 17:33:50 GMT -5
Cardona tweeted this to drum up interest in the stage, but it seriously backfired. If anything, it shows just how small the stage is and somewhat cheap looking when set up in a regular home. I can’t justify $400+ for this. Plus it looks tiny compared to the ring…wtf. It really doesn't look that bad to me in terms of scale. Especially if it's basically 1:1 with figures. Maybe the ring is a little too large by about 4-9 square inches but that's not really that big of a deal. Sounds like you're just finding things to complain about.
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 29, 2023 17:44:33 GMT -5
Think it looks fine displayed with the ring.
Not picking either side. People can definitely express their criticisms. A lot of this thread is really just the same thing repeated over and over again with no real progress. If you can’t afford it or don’t see the value in it, that’s understandable. If you’re upset with the international thing, I get it. Posting about it every day seems tiresome, but you do you boo boo. The poor thing is a solid meme. Duckman repeating himself over and over again essentially reminds me of Donnie saying “I am the walrus” in the background.
I hope it succeeds for those that want it. It still has a chance to. We will see.
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