zen411
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Post by zen411 on Apr 5, 2023 0:38:52 GMT -5
To me I don't have much nostalgia for the raw is war stage. The attitude era is more about the beer truck, the dx tank, crapper 3:16, the king of the ring throne where austin 3:16 was born, a concrete truck filling in a limo,a bridge where Austin tossed the ic title, a dumpster, backstage areas with chainlink fence, Undertakers giant symbol, Mr McMahons hospital room, Brian Pillmans house
Figures Mattel will likely never make. Val Venis, Sable with handprints, Gangrel, Mike Tyson, DX as Nation, Mae and Moolah, austin with bang 3:16, Yurple the Clown, etc.
I love the wave of nostalgia for the era but I feel a giant stage and versions of figures I already have isn't something I'm dying for and especially not at 500 or more. Like stone cold said, Eh ehh.
I would want mattel to "go there" and be more creative than here's a bunch of scaffolding and a big Titan tron. Do something we aren't expecting and captures the essence of the era. Be creative. Be daring. It would make it more appropriate and appealing.
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 5, 2023 1:26:10 GMT -5
My favorite part of this is I can bet almost half the people talking about how THIS is what they want, would be the first people complaining that an LED light is out of place, the screen isn't real, the price is too high, the early bird Austin has the wrong color eye brows, and come up with a million reasons not to actually back it when it came time to put up the money...because of the Nitro Stage is $400...
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 5, 2023 8:47:14 GMT -5
Honestly, I don’t know why we have an official thread for this when we aren’t even one) guaranteed the Nitro set (and it’s looking very bleak) and 2) nitro has proven that the $400 price tag is just too height for the majority of wrestling community. This isn’t Star Wars, MOTU, GI Joe etc Sure, lord of big collectors WANT these dioramas, that was evident by the response when they were shown. But anyone who thought that stage was going to be any less than $400 was kidding themselves unfortunately. Yeah, but is that the project or is that the economy? The economy has been terrible in every country. Everybody in the world has been bracing for a recession in their respective country. I would love to back this, but I got laid off. The top companies in the U.S. are cutting thousands of jobs. I don’t think it’s fair to chalk it up as, “Well, I guess the collecting community just isn’t interested.” That completely disregards the state of the economy. How many people on these boards have posted about cutting back on collecting because of inflation? It’s been a lot. I guarantee you that the New Gen Arena would’ve sold a lot more had it released in 2019. I think a Nitro stage would do a lot better if the economy was more stable. I agree the economy is certainly a factor here - however I removed the price tag of $250 had many people on the board scoffing. I think that, good economy or bad, the $400 price tag is always going to be a hard sell and definitely more so in an economic decline. A big issue I’ve seen also is people saying they are waiting to see where it’s at before backing, thus creating this backlog of people who are sitting on the sidelines. With everyone waiting numbers aren’t going to jump and entice those that may have no interest in back the project until FOMO kicks in |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Apr 5, 2023 10:32:30 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage?
How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 11:49:05 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage? How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric Because the fabric is made using hair directly off Bill's lower back. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Apr 5, 2023 11:50:44 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage? How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric Because the fabric is made using hair directly off Bill's lower back. 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by coldblooded on Apr 5, 2023 11:52:47 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage? How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric Because the fabric is made using hair directly off Bill's lower back. You win the internet today! |
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 6, 2023 9:51:50 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage? How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric and the excuses start rolling in a year+ from even being available to back... |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Apr 6, 2023 9:55:49 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage? How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric and the excuses start rolling in a year+ from even being available to back... Excuses? Lol okay Genuinely curious on why it’s going to be more. |
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Post by hiitsbrian on Apr 6, 2023 12:01:55 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage? How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric Yeah, I don’t understand it either. It looks so cheap compared to the Nitro stage they made. |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Apr 6, 2023 12:04:28 GMT -5
Not interested
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Apr 6, 2023 12:06:17 GMT -5
They said the Raw stage would cost more than the Nitro stage? How? Raw stage is just plastic and fabric Yeah, I don’t understand it either. It looks so cheap compared to the Nitro stage they made. I didn’t think I’d be alone in thinking this. Also didn’t think it was complaining either lol |
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Apr 6, 2023 12:18:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I don’t understand it either. It looks so cheap compared to the Nitro stage they made. I didn’t think I’d be alone in thinking this. Also didn’t think it was complaining either lol i could see it being more expensive if they included some stuff like the backstage interview area or some type of vehicle(austin 3:16 pickup, zamboni, dx jeep, etc). otherwise, its a pretty barebones stage that shouldn't cost much more than the new gen set. or perhaps they'll just be using extra premium fabric for all the curtains edit: now that i go back and look at the picture on the first page again...theoretically, IF the nitro stage gets funded then the price definitely shouldn't be very high for the raw stage considering all the tooling will already have been made. so thats a huge chunk of the cost right there |
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Post by Chicago on Apr 6, 2023 12:20:55 GMT -5
These large, somewhat-to-scale entrance sets are nice and certainly have their place in a collection, but honestly, I’d get more use out of a special 10-pack of new Attitude Era-themed Ultimates instead. Characters or signature attires that maybe might get skipped over at retail. Something similar to what Mattel Creations offers with the Retro figures and their presentation. I’d like to think that’s what most collectors would be interested in - getting more for their money, and expanding upon their selection of figures.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Apr 6, 2023 12:26:07 GMT -5
These large, somewhat-to-scale entrance sets are nice and certainly have their place in a collection, but honestly, I’d get more use out of a special 10-pack of new Attitude Era-themed Ultimates instead. Characters or signature attires that maybe might get skipped over at retail. Something similar to what Mattel Creations offers with the Retro figures and their presentation. I’d like to think that’s what most collectors would be interested in - getting more for their money, and expanding upon their selection of figures. that, or playsets/vehicles that wouldn't be terribly expensive, but just wouldn't be ideal for retail. like a buried alive set with undertaker and mankind as the base and then the tiers could be other guys that have been involved in buried alive matches, possibly even with event specific tombstones that could be switched(did any other buried alive match besides the first one have custom tombstones? i can't recall) |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Apr 7, 2023 16:49:19 GMT -5
These large, somewhat-to-scale entrance sets are nice and certainly have their place in a collection, but honestly, I’d get more use out of a special 10-pack of new Attitude Era-themed Ultimates instead. Characters or signature attires that maybe might get skipped over at retail. Something similar to what Mattel Creations offers with the Retro figures and their presentation. I’d like to think that’s what most collectors would be interested in - getting more for their money, and expanding upon their selection of figures. that, or playsets/vehicles that wouldn't be terribly expensive, but just wouldn't be ideal for retail. like a buried alive set with undertaker and mankind as the base and then the tiers could be other guys that have been involved in buried alive matches, possibly even with event specific tombstones that could be switched(did any other buried alive match besides the first one have custom tombstones? i can't recall) All of them except I think the one on Smackdown had a match specific tombstone |
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Post by cripplercrossface on Apr 7, 2023 18:59:48 GMT -5
insert code hereAttachment DeletedI would have preferred a 1999 RAW stage. This one is over sized and doesn't look like it's in scale with the figures. |
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Post by gtf_fangeek on Apr 8, 2023 7:34:50 GMT -5
I would totally back the Raw is War stage.......rather pay 600 for that one vs 400 for the WCW stage!
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Post by kanepilk on Apr 8, 2023 10:47:43 GMT -5
My favorite part of this is I can bet almost half the people talking about how THIS is what they want, would be the first people complaining that an LED light is out of place, the screen isn't real, the price is too high, the early bird Austin has the wrong color eye brows, and come up with a million reasons not to actually back it when it came time to put up the money...because of the Nitro Stage is $400... So what you're saying is, the people who are saying they are really into this, are the people that would be annoyed if it was badly executed?
Well.. that is shocking, indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 11:00:58 GMT -5
Assuming this would hopefully be resized (no need for it to be this huge) and price wasn’t too much, I’d debate backing it. Depending on which figures came with it.
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