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Post by darkprophet on Aug 20, 2024 11:59:56 GMT -5
VintageFigs1 can you answer for us whether Arn and Tully will be Brainbusters, Horsemen, universal enough to be either, or TBD? Thank you much!
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Aug 20, 2024 16:49:53 GMT -5
VintageFigs1 can you answer for us whether Arn and Tully will be Brainbusters, Horsemen, universal enough to be either, or TBD? Thank you much! I hope they go Horsemen style … we need more old school Nwa era
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 20, 2024 17:53:40 GMT -5
VintageFigs1 can you answer for us whether Arn and Tully will be Brainbusters, Horsemen, universal enough to be either, or TBD? Thank you much! I hope they go Horsemen style … we need more old school Nwa era I know you’re into NWA much more than I ever was. So I’m curious, what would the main differences in looks be- besides them holding up 4 fingers and/or wearing 4 Horsemen shirts? I suppose being dressed in suits like the first BRG Flair? Wouldn’t the actual ring attire be pretty much the same?
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Aug 20, 2024 21:20:58 GMT -5
I hope they go Horsemen style … we need more old school Nwa era I know you’re into NWA much more than I ever was. So I’m curious, what would the main differences in looks be- besides them holding up 4 fingers and/or wearing 4 Horsemen shirts? I suppose being dressed in suits like the first BRG Flair? Wouldn’t the actual ring attire be pretty much the same? There wouldn’t be much difference really … Arn never wore a suit very often, he had a more casual look outside of the ring … Tully had the casual look but also had the tendency to wear a suit sometimes … as far as ring attires there isn’t any difference between their Nwa days & Wwf days that I could ever tell besides them having jackets with the Brainbusters logo in the Wwf … the only things that would really differentiate the two promotions would be them giving the 4 Horsemen sign with their hand, putting them in a shirt with the Horsemen logo, or in Tully’s case giving him a black or a red robe like he wore to the ring in Jcp … another detail that would differentiate them since the R&R are coming with the Nwa tag titles would be to give them each a belt that they held in the Nwa, like say give Arn the Tv title (even though it’s more synonymous with Tully imo) & give Tully the National heavyweight title or have them come with the Nwa tag title circa 1987 - 88 version
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Aug 20, 2024 22:00:14 GMT -5
I know you’re into NWA much more than I ever was. So I’m curious, what would the main differences in looks be- besides them holding up 4 fingers and/or wearing 4 Horsemen shirts? I suppose being dressed in suits like the first BRG Flair? Wouldn’t the actual ring attire be pretty much the same? There wouldn’t be much difference really … Arn never wore a suit very often, he had a more casual look outside of the ring … Tully had the casual look but also had the tendency to wear a suit sometimes … as far as ring attires there isn’t any difference between their Nwa days & Wwf days that I could ever tell besides them having jackets with the Brainbusters logo in the Wwf … the only things that would really differentiate the two promotions would be them giving the 4 Horsemen sign with their hand, putting them in a shirt with the Horsemen logo, or in Tully’s case giving him a black or a red robe like he wore to the ring in Jcp … another detail that would differentiate them since the R&R are coming with the Nwa tag titles would be to give them each a belt that they held in the Nwa, like say give Arn the Tv title (even though it’s more synonymous with Tully imo) & give Tully the National heavyweight title or have them come with the Nwa tag title circa 1987 - 88 version As long as they are both in ring gear and arn has a good spine buster type pose close to his galoob ill be happiest. Just getting either in this form is enough for me!
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 20, 2024 22:19:28 GMT -5
I know you’re into NWA much more than I ever was. So I’m curious, what would the main differences in looks be- besides them holding up 4 fingers and/or wearing 4 Horsemen shirts? I suppose being dressed in suits like the first BRG Flair? Wouldn’t the actual ring attire be pretty much the same? There wouldn’t be much difference really … Arn never wore a suit very often, he had a more casual look outside of the ring … Tully had the casual look but also had the tendency to wear a suit sometimes … as far as ring attires there isn’t any difference between their Nwa days & Wwf days that I could ever tell besides them having jackets with the Brainbusters logo in the Wwf … the only things that would really differentiate the two promotions would be them giving the 4 Horsemen sign with their hand, putting them in a shirt with the Horsemen logo, or in Tully’s case giving him a black or a red robe like he wore to the ring in Jcp … another detail that would differentiate them since the R&R are coming with the Nwa tag titles would be to give them each a belt that they held in the Nwa, like say give Arn the Tv title (even though it’s more synonymous with Tully imo) & give Tully the National heavyweight title or have them come with the Nwa tag title circa 1987 - 88 version Thanks for clarifying! I’m hoping for ring gear, so us collectors of either company from the era can win! I could take or leave the belts, personally, given my collection focus. I do wonder though- obviously they can’t do WWF/E style belts, but are the old LJN belts still exclusive to WWE merchandise? They didn’t look like actual title belts. Remaking them, but with a BRG flavor, maybe purple instead of black and brown, could be cool.
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Aug 21, 2024 0:13:33 GMT -5
There wouldn’t be much difference really … Arn never wore a suit very often, he had a more casual look outside of the ring … Tully had the casual look but also had the tendency to wear a suit sometimes … as far as ring attires there isn’t any difference between their Nwa days & Wwf days that I could ever tell besides them having jackets with the Brainbusters logo in the Wwf … the only things that would really differentiate the two promotions would be them giving the 4 Horsemen sign with their hand, putting them in a shirt with the Horsemen logo, or in Tully’s case giving him a black or a red robe like he wore to the ring in Jcp … another detail that would differentiate them since the R&R are coming with the Nwa tag titles would be to give them each a belt that they held in the Nwa, like say give Arn the Tv title (even though it’s more synonymous with Tully imo) & give Tully the National heavyweight title or have them come with the Nwa tag title circa 1987 - 88 version Thanks for clarifying! I’m hoping for ring gear, so us collectors of either company from the era can win! I could take or leave the belts, personally, given my collection focus. I do wonder though- obviously they can’t do WWF/E style belts, but are the old LJN belts still exclusive to WWE merchandise? They didn’t look like actual title belts. Remaking them, but with a BRG flavor, maybe purple instead of black and brown, could be cool. Hey no problem … I can’t see them releasing Tully & Arn in anything but ring gear, it just wouldn’t make sense to put them in street clothes (unless it’s simply to go along with the first Flair) …I think Flair made sense in a suit because he had almost as many memorable moments outside the ring & on the mic as he did in his matches, but Tully & Arn not so much … I believe it’s a pretty safe bet we’ll see them both in ring attire … and that’s a cool idea you have for the belts but personally I’d prefer actual titles if possible … I wouldn’t have a clue about Wwe - Ljn licensing, someone else with that knowledge can answer that one LoL
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Post by slimjim23 on Aug 21, 2024 4:52:43 GMT -5
I hope their in tights and a molded BB jacket
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 21, 2024 8:10:02 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying! I’m hoping for ring gear, so us collectors of either company from the era can win! I could take or leave the belts, personally, given my collection focus. I do wonder though- obviously they can’t do WWF/E style belts, but are the old LJN belts still exclusive to WWE merchandise? They didn’t look like actual title belts. Remaking them, but with a BRG flavor, maybe purple instead of black and brown, could be cool. Hey no problem … I can’t see them releasing Tully & Arn in anything but ring gear, it just wouldn’t make sense to put them in street clothes (unless it’s simply to go along with the first Flair) …I think Flair made sense in a suit because he had almost as many memorable moments outside the ring & on the mic as he did in his matches, but Tully & Arn not so much … I believe it’s a pretty safe bet we’ll see them both in ring attire … and that’s a cool idea you have for the belts but personally I’d prefer actual titles if possible … I wouldn’t have a clue about Wwe - Ljn licensing, someone else with that knowledge can answer that one LoL The belt question is more for VintageFigs1
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Post by mesteve on Aug 21, 2024 8:41:41 GMT -5
I do wonder though- obviously they can’t do WWF/E style belts, but are the old LJN belts still exclusive to WWE merchandise? They didn’t look like actual title belts. The LJN belts were based on Sheik's title that Hogan won in 84, minus the green strap. The scale was a little off though, as I think the belt should have been bigger, especially on the strap part. So not exact replicas though of course but not sure how any of this would affect trademark and licensing etc. There are some customs made with the green strap that look pretty good.
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 21, 2024 9:18:36 GMT -5
The LJN belts were based on Sheik's title that Hogan won in 84, minus the green strap. The scale was a little off though, as I think the belt should have been bigger, especially on the strap part. So not exact replicas though of course but not sure how any of this would affect trademark and licensing etc. There are some customs made with the green strap that look pretty good. Thanks. I’ve noticed some good looking ones on Etsy.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Aug 21, 2024 10:57:35 GMT -5
The LJN belts were based on Sheik's title that Hogan won in 84, minus the green strap. The scale was a little off though, as I think the belt should have been bigger, especially on the strap part. So not exact replicas though of course but not sure how any of this would affect trademark and licensing etc. There are some customs made with the green strap that look pretty good. To add to this - Johnny Rodz is the one who made that particular trophy style belt. Here he is talking a little about it’s creation: According to one of the belt industry experts, Rodz didn’t seem to care if people made copies of his work. But it is unclear to me after researching it if there is any copyright to the design. To my knowledge, the Big Green Belt was never used in any of the WWE video games nor have they made official replicas. It might also explain why Mattel did such a questionable job with the detail on their version of it. As for the original LJN belts, someone already answered that it was based off of the Big Green…and I imagine almost no one cared back in the day about how accurate things were so they used the same mold for the tag titles I guess. A few years ago, I purchased a couple just to paint green and gold/use for display. It felt too small for LJN figures but too big for retros: As for the original Big Green Belt? Some say it was stolen, others say it was given away, and some claim it was thrown in the trash. Triple H used to (maybe still does?) have a replica in his office which I read was made by Wildcat Belts:
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Post by oldschoolfool on Aug 21, 2024 11:40:09 GMT -5
The LJN belts were based on Sheik's title that Hogan won in 84, minus the green strap. The scale was a little off though, as I think the belt should have been bigger, especially on the strap part. So not exact replicas though of course but not sure how any of this would affect trademark and licensing etc. There are some customs made with the green strap that look pretty good. Its more the Backlund belt than Shiek belt. Since Backlund wore the belt for most of '83 even longer than Hogan who switched belt designs months into his reign in '84.
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 21, 2024 11:57:57 GMT -5
I think it would be great if BRGs could do this big-green belt at some point. I know on the pod a while back they expressed interest in doing Sheik in trunks if he ever became available.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Aug 21, 2024 13:04:19 GMT -5
I think it would be great if BRGs could do this big-green belt at some point. I know on the pod a while back they expressed interest in doing Sheik in trunks if he ever became available. He has had a legends deal for a while now but that would be a cool figure. Hopefully his estate opens up the merchandising before the next legends deal is signed. On that note, I recently tried reaching out to every available wrestling figure company and it seems as though no one knows the status of Bob Backlund. Well, I did ask Bill from Mattel but he didn’t comment on it. It came out recently during an autograph signing with Bret Hart that Bob “is suffering from dementia and is living with his sister in Florida.” Pretty heartbreaking.
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 21, 2024 13:56:19 GMT -5
I think it would be great if BRGs could do this big-green belt at some point. I know on the pod a while back they expressed interest in doing Sheik in trunks if he ever became available. He has had a legends deal for a while now but that would be a cool figure. Hopefully his estate opens up the merchandising before the next legends deal is signed. On that note, I recently tried reaching out to every available wrestling figure company and it seems as though no one knows the status of Bob Backlund. Well, I did ask Bill from Mattel but he didn’t comment on it. It came out recently during an autograph signing with Bret Hart that Bob “is suffering from dementia and is living with his sister in Florida.” Pretty heartbreaking. That is heartbreaking. Definitely a Legend who deserves more figures to honor him.
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Post by jlaf77 on Aug 21, 2024 17:58:40 GMT -5
I hope their in tights and a molded BB jacket I would love this! Got a feeling they are gonna be horsemen versions though to go with flair. If that's the case I'll just pick up bad news brown from this wave
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 21, 2024 18:32:44 GMT -5
I hope their in tights and a molded BB jacket I would love this! Got a feeling they are gonna be horsemen versions though to go with flair. If that's the case I'll just pick up bad news brown from this wave As long as they don't have the "horsemen" hand gesture with the figures and they're just in their wrestling gear, they can pretty much pass for both WWF or NWA. I think they pretty much wore 3 different looks: red tights, black tights, and the white/red tights.
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Aug 21, 2024 19:36:20 GMT -5
It’s an amusing thought that VintageFigs1 can see our entire conversation about this & probably has the answer the whole entire time but won’t just tell us & put us out of our misery 😂 … but on the other hand, in a strange way I sorta enjoy the suspense of it all until we finally see them
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Post by darkprophet on Aug 21, 2024 20:55:14 GMT -5
It’s an amusing thought that VintageFigs1 can see our entire conversation about this & probably has the answer the whole entire time but won’t just tell us & put us out of our misery 😂 … but on the other hand, in a strange way I sorta enjoy the suspense of it all until we finally see them Or maybe they are undecided on the look, and this dialogue is valuable to their decision making? One can hope, at least. On another note, I received (standard) Duggan today! Excellent figure, much better than his LJN (which says A LOT, coming from me)! I really like his thickness and expression. My one very minor criticism is that the 2x4 is quite yellow, unlike the LJN, which was a more natural wood-brown. Still, a beautiful figure! Instantly one of my favorites along with Macho, Demolition and Dynamite Kid! Well done!
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