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Post by Crossfit Jesus on May 30, 2023 11:47:09 GMT -5
Interesting topic bc i think they could do it but idk if they would give him the same shirt with the Africa on the back ? Why wouldn’t they? A white guy with a country on the back? Would that not be like not making a Bobby lashley with the United States on his back? also Africa is a continent
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Post by kinnikuman on May 30, 2023 11:53:24 GMT -5
I got the Strongbow. My OMG custom is the bee's knees. I don't need Rising Sun RVD. I'm all set over here.
Though I would LOVE an Adorable Adrian Adonis.
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Post by Apocalypse on May 30, 2023 19:50:35 GMT -5
People throw around the term “cancel culture” way too much for situations that don’t even apply. They might not make the jive talking Akeem from the “deepest darkest part of Africa” again if they get George Gray under contract again. It’s not like anyone is trying to ruin his career or erase him from history. In no way is the guy “oh my god cancelled!” Especially if they end up making One Man Gang figures. You can still watch Akeem matches on the Peacock/Network. You can still meet George Grey at conventions. They might just decide to not make a toy of one of his wrestling characters again. The whole “cancel culture” thing is just a buzz term for people to get “too sensitive” about people being “too sensitive” anyways. No one outside truly awful people have lost their careers due to their actions. Strongbow wasn’t even “cancelled” as far as the person or his work. They just decided to not make a toy of him. The world kept spinning. It fits the term. How else would you describe it ? Also who gives a rats ass lol Youre reading into it too much dude. .chill out
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Post by CM Tusk on May 30, 2023 19:52:30 GMT -5
People throw around the term “cancel culture” way too much for situations that don’t even apply. They might not make the jive talking Akeem from the “deepest darkest part of Africa” again if they get George Gray under contract again. It’s not like anyone is trying to ruin his career or erase him from history. In no way is the guy “oh my god cancelled!” Especially if they end up making One Man Gang figures. You can still watch Akeem matches on the Peacock/Network. You can still meet George Grey at conventions. They might just decide to not make a toy of one of his wrestling characters again. The whole “cancel culture” thing is just a buzz term for people to get “too sensitive” about people being “too sensitive” anyways. No one outside truly awful people have lost their careers due to their actions. Strongbow wasn’t even “cancelled” as far as the person or his work. They just decided to not make a toy of him. The world kept spinning. It fits the term. How else would you describe it ? Also who gives a rats ass lol I’d describe it as a business deciding to not make a product. Also, I imagine the people that want Akeem and wanted Strongbow do.
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Post by Apocalypse on May 30, 2023 19:55:50 GMT -5
What i meant to say is you made a big deal out of people using the term cancel culture. Relax. Its not a big deal
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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on May 31, 2023 2:39:11 GMT -5
Why wouldn’t they? A white guy with a country on the back? Would that not be like not making a Bobby lashley with the United States on his back? probably bc he’s not from Africa and impersonating an African person So I guess we need to cancel Yokozuna, Kamala , the goon (because he wasn’t a real hockey player ), Duke Droese (because he’s not a real garbage man) , hell who else do we need to cancel because they portrayed things that weren’t true?
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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on May 31, 2023 2:40:48 GMT -5
Why wouldn’t they? A white guy with a country on the back? Would that not be like not making a Bobby lashley with the United States on his back? also Africa is a continent I was generally speaking. It’s really not that hard to understand.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 5:06:56 GMT -5
It’s crazy how sensitive people can be when it comes to wrestling characters. I walk down the toy aisle and Hasbro and McFarlane and others keeps stock on shelves of people who portray evil characters and commit mass murder, among other heinous acts. But no.. let’s cancel all the wrestling characters because seven people get their feelings hurt. Mcfarlane thankfully doesn't have to answer to shareholders. He does have to answer to WB tho and adhere to their weird no gun mandate. (But hey, finger guns!) Meanwhile, Hasbro is making the guns on their GI Joe figures more realistic compared to when the classified series launched. But you cross the line when you have an Italian playing a Native American. I get canceling it because the dude is from New Jersey and New Jersey is just gross. It'd be nice if the people who got their feelings hurt over Strongbow just simply didn't buy that particular figure. But nope. Let's go cry about it online and get it cancelled altogether and have these multi billion dollar corporations bend to our will. I'd love to know if Mattel really thinks the select few that got their panties in an uproar over that figure really make that much of a difference to their overall profits/bonuses. They literally said, let's make these select few happy by pissing everyone else off by canceling this toy.
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Post by pickle on May 31, 2023 9:38:08 GMT -5
I think Akeem's a special situation because the whole point of the gimmick is that he's obviously not African and is a delusional jerk for acting like he is.
It's like how Its Always Sunny and Tropic Thunder have gotten away with blackface stuff because the message is "this is wrong and these characters are idiots".
Whereas with Strongbow, the guy pretended to be a different race to make money and get cheers. The whole thing was about exploiting another culture to get pops.
Will a billion dollar company be able to recognize that nuance though? I doubt it.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on May 31, 2023 13:56:27 GMT -5
Did Akeem have any gear besides the one they already did? Just make One Man Gang first and then worry about making another Akeem to shelf warm harder than the first one
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Post by Apocalypse on May 31, 2023 14:46:13 GMT -5
Well lets be real. Wrestlers are actors. An italian man playing a native american really isnt as bad as some people make it out to be. He was acting. Its too bad his figure was cancelled for that.
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Post by CM Tusk on May 31, 2023 15:16:33 GMT -5
Well lets be real. Wrestlers are actors. An italian man playing a native american really isnt as bad as some people make it out to be. He was acting. Its too bad his figure was cancelled for that. There’s a perfectly fine Jakks one on eBay for 30 bucks.
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Post by Apocalypse on May 31, 2023 16:24:49 GMT -5
Well lets be real. Wrestlers are actors. An italian man playing a native american really isnt as bad as some people make it out to be. He was acting. Its too bad his figure was cancelled for that. There’s a perfectly fine Jakks one on eBay for 30 bucks. Dont care lol
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Post by CM Tusk on May 31, 2023 16:31:32 GMT -5
There’s a perfectly fine Jakks one on eBay for 30 bucks. Dont care lol Well then no Jay Strongbow toy for you
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Post by Apocalypse on May 31, 2023 16:33:38 GMT -5
Well then no Jay Strongbow toy for you oh no what will i ever do lol. Jesus, someone get this guy a clue
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Post by mizanin97 on May 31, 2023 17:51:24 GMT -5
I’ve got Akeem, but definitely wouldn’t mind a TrueFX upgrade. I personally don’t see them doing it, but I didn’t expect them to re-release Kamala either. If the guy can’t come in for a scan, they could always scan Conrad Thompson.
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Post by MKSavage on May 31, 2023 21:09:43 GMT -5
Did Akeem have any gear besides the one they already did? Just make One Man Gang first and then worry about making another Akeem to shelf warm harder than the first one He did have slight variations. Yellow hat, yellow shirt with red and blue designs, blue wristbands: Blue hat with green and yellow designs, yellow shirt with blue and green designs, yellow boots: Darker blue hat with blue and green designs: Blue shirt with green stripe across the stomach: Green boots: Blue shirt with red stripe across the stomach, red boots:
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Post by kirk815 on Jun 1, 2023 1:17:43 GMT -5
probably bc he’s not from Africa and impersonating an African person So I guess we need to cancel Yokozuna, Kamala , the goon (because he wasn’t a real hockey player ), Duke Droese (because he’s not a real garbage man) , hell who else do we need to cancel because they portrayed things that weren’t true? If I recall correctly, we found out that RVD was cancelled first and people used the same argument about Strongbow (I guess we need to cancel Strongbow too). Then we found out Strongbow was cancelled and everyone lost their mind. If people keep bringing negative attention to Yoko, Kamala, Razor, Akeem, etc. then Mattel eventually probably won't release them. Hockey Players/Garbage Men are occupations - definitely not equivalent to the Strongbow situation.
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Post by ImJoeGrizzlyBitch on Jun 1, 2023 1:24:30 GMT -5
So I guess we need to cancel Yokozuna, Kamala , the goon (because he wasn’t a real hockey player ), Duke Droese (because he’s not a real garbage man) , hell who else do we need to cancel because they portrayed things that weren’t true? If I recall correctly, we found out that RVD was cancelled first and people used the same argument about Strongbow (I guess we need to cancel Strongbow too). Then we found out Strongbow was cancelled and everyone lost their mind. If people keep bringing negative attention to Yoko, Kamala, Razor, Akeem, etc. then Mattel eventually probably won't release them. Hockey Players/Garbage Men are occupations - definitely not equivalent to the Strongbow situation. Haha! You people on here can’t take a joke to save your life. And I can promise you now, Mattel could give a rats ass if people here talked about Kamala, Yokozuna etc . Unless WWE or Mattel higher ups (who aren’t on here reading rather you like a figure or not) tells them to cancel soemthing.
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Post by Chicago on Jun 1, 2023 1:43:57 GMT -5
There’s really no way of knowing until it happens. I doubt we’d get a heads up. If George Gray is available, I would think One Man Gang takes precedence over all. Will we ever get a rerelease of the legend series Akeem? Figure was flawless to me & I miss out on it the first time around. It could be an option if he ever becomes available to us again. I’d want to get out One Man Gang first though.
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