crush
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Post by crush on Jul 20, 2023 16:49:36 GMT -5
Saying a lot because most the scans of been iffy at best, but this is the worst Bret head Mattel has done.
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 20, 2023 16:49:37 GMT -5
These Bret scans are rough..
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Jul 20, 2023 16:50:14 GMT -5
It means she’s out of place in a set amongst the biggest stars in wrestling history. It’d be like a football icons 4 pack including Maradona, Pele, Messi and some random woman. Except we're circling back to the fact that she isn't a "random woman". She's the biggest female star, and in the top 2-3 biggest stars in current wrestling. Again, not liking her is fine, feeling she doesn't deserve the push she's getting or whatever is fine as that's subjective, pretending she's not a major wrestling star is willfully ignoring reality. You could put the biggest female footballer in that set and it’d still be out of place. You can be pushed to infinity and beyond, if the the bulk of the audience doesn’t credibly buy you as a star you aren’t one. People won’t be talking about her in 10-15 years with the same interest they will Roman, Cody, Brock, Lashley, Orton etc in the same way that people don’t talk about Trish or Lita in the same way they talk about Austin and Rock.
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Post by HeelPiper on Jul 20, 2023 16:50:27 GMT -5
That Coliseum Bret's hair should be shorter. I hope we get elites in all pink and black/blue in the Legends line eventually. The hair is accurate because they chose a 1990-91 looking attire. Not sure why.
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 20, 2023 16:51:22 GMT -5
Who is this man…
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jul 20, 2023 16:51:35 GMT -5
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Post by cuppacoffeeyeaaah on Jul 20, 2023 16:51:45 GMT -5
Thought the render of the Hart Foundation looked good but now seeing the pictures. Bill, your Hitman WOOF!
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 20, 2023 16:51:57 GMT -5
Trying to remember if there’s anything else I’ll get…. The Eddie is interesting. Can’t wait to see it further in production.
Oh and the Street clothes Rock is great but not paying for his whole family
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Jul 20, 2023 16:53:19 GMT -5
Ugh Rock in the mania wave again. Why not an Eddie or angle 😒
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Post by Old Zeke on Jul 20, 2023 16:54:51 GMT -5
Who is this man… I believe that's Don Johnson.
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Post by mrmonkeyofficial on Jul 20, 2023 16:55:56 GMT -5
Who is this man… Bret Fart
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Post by teammadness on Jul 20, 2023 16:55:56 GMT -5
Who is this man… Looks like the 1-2-3 kid….IMO the best Bret scan is the E47 Hart Foundation scan
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Post by marklud on Jul 20, 2023 16:55:56 GMT -5
It means she’s out of place in a set amongst the biggest stars in wrestling history. It’d be like a football icons 4 pack including Maradona, Pele, Messi and some random woman. Except we're circling back to the fact that she isn't a "random woman". She's the biggest female star, and in the top 2-3 biggest stars in current wrestling. Again, not liking her is fine, feeling she doesn't deserve the push she's getting or whatever is fine as that's subjective, pretending she's not a major wrestling star is willfully ignoring reality. And women's wrestling popularity isn't just a U.S. thing. Stardom in Japan has been on absolute FIRE since 2020, moving up from like the 8th biggest promotion in the country, to the fourth, to now the unquestioned No. 2 wrestling promotion in all of Japan business-wise/tickets sold/popularity. The old heads whining here (and I'm an old head myself, just not whining about it lol) are telling on themselves, like I said.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2023 16:57:00 GMT -5
I guess Bill can’t get reference pics of Bret’s face so he just Googles “people who look like Bret Hart” He's designing them from memory
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 20, 2023 16:57:05 GMT -5
That's a big ass urn on bearer
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crush
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Post by crush on Jul 20, 2023 16:57:12 GMT -5
Except we're circling back to the fact that she isn't a "random woman". She's the biggest female star, and in the top 2-3 biggest stars in current wrestling. Again, not liking her is fine, feeling she doesn't deserve the push she's getting or whatever is fine as that's subjective, pretending she's not a major wrestling star is willfully ignoring reality. You could put the biggest female footballer in that set and it’d still be out of place. You can be pushed to infinity and beyond, if the the bulk of the audience doesn’t credibly buy you as a star you aren’t one.People won’t be talking about her in 10-15 years with the same interest they will Roman, Cody, Brock, Lashley, Orton etc in the same way that people don’t talk about Trish or Lita in the same way they talk about Austin and Rock. All due respect, but saying the "bulk of the audience doesn't buy Becky as a star" is completely divorced from reality. We'll see RE: Trish and Lita. Love them both, they arguably deserved to be, but they. were never presented as being on the same level of the company's main stars at the time and therefore aren't treated as such now. Becky has been presented as such since mid-late 2018, and that will likely influence how she's talked about in the future.
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crush
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Post by crush on Jul 20, 2023 16:58:12 GMT -5
Who is this man… I would legitimately think that was the 1993 Waltman head of if I stumbled across the photo with no context.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 20, 2023 17:00:01 GMT -5
Arguing the merits and popularity of women's wrestling as a whole is not the same as talking specifically about Becky Lynch and the fact that WWE has consistently booked her as one of the biggest stars/faces of the company for five years. It means she’s out of place in a set amongst the biggest stars in wrestling history. It’d be like a football icons 4 pack including Maradona, Pele, Messi and some random woman. That may be the most sexist thing I've seen on this forum. And that's really a pretty high bar.
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Jul 20, 2023 17:00:16 GMT -5
You could put the biggest female footballer in that set and it’d still be out of place. You can be pushed to infinity and beyond, if the the bulk of the audience doesn’t credibly buy you as a star you aren’t one.People won’t be talking about her in 10-15 years with the same interest they will Roman, Cody, Brock, Lashley, Orton etc in the same way that people don’t talk about Trish or Lita in the same way they talk about Austin and Rock. All due respect, but saying the "bulk of the audience doesn't buy Becky as a star" is completely divorced from reality. We'll see RE: Trish and Lita. Love them both, they arguably deserved to be, but they. were never presented as being on the same level of the company's main stars at the time and therefore aren't treated as such now. Becky has been presented as such since mid-late 2018, and that will likely influence how she's talked about in the future. Brother the all female PPV was such a monumental flop they never dared entertain it again. Verifiably women’s wrestling is a small niche within a niche. It’s cool if you like it. It has its place. But pretending any female wrestler is anywhere near one of the biggest stars is so ridiculously disingenuous it’s laughable.
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Post by 2sweeeeet on Jul 20, 2023 17:00:39 GMT -5
Then it's be a 5-pack and Angle would have awful parts choices and I still wouldn't get it So your chances of getting would drastic go down? Well ing played. I almost died when I finally got this (been a minute since I've seen that promo).
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