omegaman88
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Post by omegaman88 on Jul 23, 2023 20:54:15 GMT -5
If Austin was unable to gather himself and score a convincing pinfall, why allow that absolutely awful and business exposing school boy. I hated that finish as a 9 year old kid, and I still do today.
Couldn't we have worked a DQ or literally anything else?
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 23, 2023 21:24:30 GMT -5
It was booked for Austin to win, when the incident happened, they had to come up with something fast, they probably figured that Austin wouldn't be able to do anything more which would make a DQ hard to believe or pull off. As the referee looked at Austin, Owen could have pushed him out of the way and continually punched him until the ref called for a DQ, that's probably all that could have happened. However, that wouldn't have looked right, Owen beating down the "toughest SOB in the WWF". Though, with them thinking Austin broke his neck, they most likely wouldn't want Owen or anyone near him, not because he would have purposely done anything, but any small movement could have hurt Austin neck even worse.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 23, 2023 22:47:52 GMT -5
Same reason they continued Over The Edge 1999 despite Owen literally falling to his death midway through the show; Vince.
The match should have been called off the moment Austin fell to the ground and wasn’t moving. The problem was that in 1997 they didn’t take injuries as seriously as they do today. If this scenario happened today the match would have stopped instantly.
Story-wise, Austin would have had to kiss Owen’s ass if he didn’t win the match. They probably were more worried about having to write around that than Austin’s health.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 24, 2023 5:18:27 GMT -5
Austin was the hottest act on the card. He had to win...yeah it looked sh#t but folks soon forgot about it.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 24, 2023 6:01:33 GMT -5
I can only imagine what Vince was thinking watching this unfold from the booth
A guy he's investing everything in as the next megastar and he's laying on the mat not moving
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Post by Hem-Ridge on Jul 24, 2023 7:54:34 GMT -5
I personally think the dumbest thing was Austin appearing the next night on Raw (granted it was on the Titantron). But why he came back straight away? It definitely shortened his career.
He should've taken at least a bit of time off & it wouldn't have made him less of a badass character.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 24, 2023 13:48:24 GMT -5
If Owen Hart had pinned Stone Cold to end the match, Stone Cold would've had to be kissing Owen's ass then while he was paralyzed.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 24, 2023 14:10:00 GMT -5
Because Owen fell and hit the back of his head knocking him out for those very slow 3 seconds of Austin attempting to pin him. That's why!
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 24, 2023 19:51:35 GMT -5
That was supposed to be the biggest moment of Austin's career up until that point. The pop he got was absolutely insane it was obvious he was on the path to be the next megastar of the company.
Coming from someone who was in attendance at the Meadowlands that night.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 24, 2023 19:52:43 GMT -5
Same reason they continued Over The Edge 1999 despite Owen literally falling to his death midway through the show; Vince. The match should have been called off the moment Austin fell to the ground and wasn’t moving. The problem was that in 1997 they didn’t take injuries as seriously as they do today. If this scenario happened today the match would have stopped instantly. Story-wise, Austin would have had to kiss Owen’s ass if he didn’t win the match. They probably were more worried about having to write around that than Austin’s health. This is so sadly true. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 25, 2023 9:30:54 GMT -5
If only Austin didn’t break his neck………
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Post by koreygunz on Jul 25, 2023 9:32:14 GMT -5
Same reason they continued Over The Edge 1999 despite Owen literally falling to his death midway through the show; Vince. The match should have been called off the moment Austin fell to the ground and wasn’t moving. The problem was that in 1997 they didn’t take injuries as seriously as they do today. If this scenario happened today the match would have stopped instantly. Story-wise, Austin would have had to kiss Owen’s ass if he didn’t win the match. They probably were more worried about having to write around that than Austin’s health. Austin himself is who called the finish and told Earl Hebner to tell Owen what was coming. Had nothing to do with Vince or WWE. Thus is in now way comparable to Owen's fall. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 25, 2023 9:56:00 GMT -5
Same reason they continued Over The Edge 1999 despite Owen literally falling to his death midway through the show; Vince. The match should have been called off the moment Austin fell to the ground and wasn’t moving. The problem was that in 1997 they didn’t take injuries as seriously as they do today. If this scenario happened today the match would have stopped instantly. Story-wise, Austin would have had to kiss Owen’s ass if he didn’t win the match. They probably were more worried about having to write around that than Austin’s health. Austin himself is who called the finish and told Earl Hebner to tell Owen what was coming. Had nothing to do with Vince or WWE. Thus is in now way comparable to Owen's fall. Vince is the man in charge. He can make any decision he wants. Austin just suffered a broken neck. He was in no shape to make the call. Even if he wanted to finish it, Vince could have radio’d gorilla to end it right there. |
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Post by Scott! on Jul 25, 2023 15:37:29 GMT -5
The one thing I don't understand is Vince on commentary saying "Austin is hurt, and hurt badly"? Do something about it, they sat there and let him lie in the ring for minutes. Get a paramedic, doctors, something. Sitting watching it surely wasn't the right thing to do but hindsight's 20/20.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 25, 2023 22:59:05 GMT -5
I believe Owen should have been fired for it. I know many content it was a move he did all the time but I really don't remember it being used much at all. Maybe against Bret at Wrestlemania X is one I seem to remember. It was Undertaker's move even if a reverse version so you'd think he would want his finisher protected from use from others.
Austin asked him not to do it but he went with it anyway.
Firing Owen would have saved his life which is really the ultimate reason I wish it had happened. I wonder if Bret would have tried leaving any earlier if Owen were fired. Doubtful since he would be world champion at this time.
Austin was Vince's meal ticket, he would be the guy to take WWF to heights not seen since the Hogan years and I think Vince already knew it and yet his career was nearly ended.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 28, 2023 2:35:09 GMT -5
One thing I remember about that match, didn't Vince on commentary during the match talk about Austin having a bad neck?? Which I never understood cause I never heard of him having a bad neck at all up until that match. I know he had bad knees though.
I wonder if the piledriver was supposed to be a worked injury that turned into a legit one cause Austin's head was too low when the piledriver happened??
Also, I never remember Owen ever doing that move. He would do that spot and turn it into a tombstone but never a sit down piledriver.
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Post by Hem-Ridge on Jul 28, 2023 7:51:43 GMT -5
I still think it's ironic that Austin did the same move that would injure Chono a few years earlier.
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