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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 29, 2023 13:38:35 GMT -5
The fact that Gunther is at 414 days as IC Champion and will no doubt surpass the Honky Tonk Man as the longest reigning IC Champion is just sickening to me.
It reminds me of when they had New Day hold the Tag Titles long enough to beat Demolition's title reign, and then lose the belts a week later.
The golden era of the 70s and 80s have their records diminished because of either bad relationships with the company as time goes on, or just because they feel it needs to be done by guy(s) who aren't over and can't draw.
Honky Tonk Man could draw. He was a heel. Great heel heat. Fans wanted to see someone beat him. As for Gunther?? No, not at all. He's just there.
I know I am including current name star in this post, but it just ticks me off that WWE does this.
Same with saying Roman Reigns is a longer WWE Champion than Hulk Hogan. No, Roman only held the WWE Title for a year and a half, he's been that stupid Universal Champion for 3 years.
I just feel a lot of our heroes from the 80s are getting passed over by the new style of wrestlers who don't deserve that push or recognition.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 29, 2023 16:28:58 GMT -5
I don’t mind it tbh but I want Austin’s 3 Rumble wins to stay alive forever lol
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Post by tmnt316 on Jul 29, 2023 17:50:05 GMT -5
I'm not really bother by it but probably cause I like Gunther a lot same for Roman/USO's.
Only thing annoys me is calling Cena the "GOAT" everytime he shows now.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 29, 2023 18:47:02 GMT -5
See the thing is, if Gunther loses the belt and eventually drops down the card before getting released it would be a waste and disrespectful to the previous long term champs who are Legends.
But if he goes on to the main event scene and becomes a long term player in the company then his title reign could go down in history as something that helped jump start him.
WWE is so unpredictable and Gunther's career could eventually go either way.
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 29, 2023 20:46:58 GMT -5
It's not a bad thing, but it looks so transparent. Especially considering that they already did this with the Tag Team Title reign recently, and they did it twice, right? Didn't the New Day break Demolition's record, then didn't the USO's break the New Day's record right after it? Now you have Reigns going on a 3-year reign as well. Doing them all in such a short span seems like overkill. I like the fact that they are letting guys have longer reigns with the belts now, but they don't need to break all records every time.
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Post by tmnt316 on Jul 29, 2023 21:03:12 GMT -5
It's not a bad thing, but it looks so transparent. Especially considering that they already did this with the Tag Team Title reign recently, and they did it twice, right? Didn't the New Day break Demolition's record, then didn't the USO's break the New Day's record right after it? Now you have Reigns going on a 3-year reign as well. Doing them all in such a short span seems like overkill. I like the fact that they are letting guys have longer reigns with the belts now, but they don't need to break all records every time. I wasn't a ND fan at all so kinda glad they got passed by a team I actually like Ha! |
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 29, 2023 21:54:45 GMT -5
Gunther breaking HTM record doesnt bother me cause most people dont even consider him the greatest IC Champ of all time. Maybe Gunther turns out the same or maybe he goes on to be a great main eventer & world champion. The thing with HTM was he peeked with his IC title win, he had no real memorable defenses & he was squashed to lose it and then completely fell off the map. Honestly its a record that should have been broken years ago.
I do agree with New Day & Demolition. At least with Demolition they defended their titles against worthy tag teams. New Day had 2 title options to hold and then only had maybe 3 credible other tag teams. Its the same thing that keeps me from putting The Usos high on the list. They do great, but when you're the only good apple in a bag of rotten apples...you still throw the whole bag away.
Dont even get me started on the Roman thing. Its annoying as hell
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 30, 2023 0:23:04 GMT -5
GUNTHER is more believable and a much better wrestler. The current record should have been held by someone like Savage, not gimmicky ass HTM. I very much hope he breaks it and then moves on to the main event.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jul 30, 2023 2:35:08 GMT -5
I hope Roman holds both for 2000 more days and completely blows Bruno's longest reign out of the water. Hope GUNTHER does the same to HTM's record. One of them needs to go.
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Post by nWp: Trios Champion on Jul 30, 2023 10:10:34 GMT -5
It would be nice if they didn’t unnecessarily break every record held by a legend. I’m not a huge HTM fan and I like Gunther but I’m not going to be devastated if the record gets broken.
WWE can honestly break every record they feel like but that doesn’t translate to the record breaker being as memorable or important as prior legends. Much like Roman.. they can have the title in him for however long they want but most long time fans know he can’t lace up most of the boots of guys he’s already passed by.
WWE loves records and loves breaking records. Doesn’t translate to everything being meaningful tho
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Post by nWp: Trios Champion on Jul 30, 2023 10:11:14 GMT -5
It would be nice if they didn’t unnecessarily break every record held by a legend. I’m not a huge HTM fan and I like Gunther so I’m not going to be devastated if the record gets broken.
WWE can honestly break every record they feel like but that doesn’t translate to the record breaker being as memorable or important as prior legends. Much like Roman.. they can have the title on him for however long they want but most long time fans know he can’t lace up most of the boots of guys he’s already passed by.
WWE loves records and loves breaking records. Doesn’t translate to everything being meaningful tho
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jul 30, 2023 11:55:20 GMT -5
I don't like Honky. So I'll be happy to see this one broken.
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Post by Evil Abed on Jul 30, 2023 12:56:36 GMT -5
When I think of the great IC champions of all time, Honky doesnt come close for me on that list. Gunther is doing a great job building back up the value of the IC title because it had been de-valued because of who was holding it for years. That being said, there are so many greats that have held the IC title and I still wouldn't consider Gunther top 10 of the all time list currently.
So honestly feel free to break the record for length, it doesnt change my view on anything.
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Post by rateddal on Jul 30, 2023 18:58:20 GMT -5
It's pretty ridiculous the length of reigns in this era. With the amount of events the titles are defended at way higher than the Golden Era it is really unrealistic to believe those reigns would ever be surpassed.
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Post by k5 on Jul 31, 2023 0:09:00 GMT -5
the modern era in many ways is a bastardization of wrestling, but the 80s stuff was also a bastardization from it's previous eras.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 31, 2023 1:51:37 GMT -5
See the thing is, if Gunther loses the belt and eventually drops down the card before getting released it would be a waste and disrespectful to the previous long term champs who are Legends. But if he goes on to the main event scene and becomes a long term player in the company then his title reign could go down in history as something that helped jump start him. WWE is so unpredictable and Gunther's career could eventually go either way. Yes indeed. I like Gunther & enjoy his mechanical destruction of opponents & his reign surpassing Honkys doesn't really bother me but as I say? It must mean something. He'll definitely go onto bigger things BUT we also realise Honky didn't. I appreciate Honky...his job was to draw heat & get folks to pay to see him get beat & he did that magnificently. When he was beat? It meant something & crowned his successor. This is why I want Gunther to retain against McIntyre. I firmly believe Bron Brekker should be the one to end his reign & be a "made man" out of it like Warrior was with HTM |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 31, 2023 20:51:10 GMT -5
Egh, Roman holding the belts for so long is more bothering to me than Gunther’s run.
Like someone else said, the WWE constantly calling Cena the GOAT is the worst.
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Post by fabulous1971 on Aug 1, 2023 11:18:52 GMT -5
Records are made to be broken. I personally think Cody should have beaten that record during his first go around in the WWE. I would also say "The Miz" could have done instead. GUNTHER is a machine and out of everyone in the WWE now, he's the most believable to break that record. Sure as hell better than Matt Riddle or Otis.
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Aug 1, 2023 12:22:11 GMT -5
The fact that Gunther is at 414 days as IC Champion and will no doubt surpass the Honky Tonk Man as the longest reigning IC Champion is just sickening to me. It reminds me of when they had New Day hold the Tag Titles long enough to beat Demolition's title reign, and then lose the belts a week later. The golden era of the 70s and 80s have their records diminished because of either bad relationships with the company as time goes on, or just because they feel it needs to be done by guy(s) who aren't over and can't draw. Honky Tonk Man could draw. He was a heel. Great heel heat. Fans wanted to see someone beat him. As for Gunther?? No, not at all. He's just there. I know I am including current name star in this post, but it just ticks me off that WWE does this.
Same with saying Roman Reigns is a longer WWE Champion than Hulk Hogan. No, Roman only held the WWE Title for a year and a half, he's been that stupid Universal Champion for 3 years.
I just feel a lot of our heroes from the 80s are getting passed over by the new style of wrestlers who don't deserve that push or recognition. GUNTHER is a good wrestler but lacks any personality (in my opinion) like the Honky Tonk Man, The New Day should have never broke Demolitions record, GUNTHER should be a final boss, and this whole thing with Roman Reigns piss me off, they are re-writing history with him. They want him to break these records.... with the Universal Championship, sorry to break it to the WWE, the Universal Championship is a secondary world title (before the re-introduction of the World Heavyweight Championship), Roman Reigns is the most over pushed & over protected champion in recent history. I am sorry no part timer should hold the World Title, the WWE does two house shows (one for Raw and one for SmackDown, sometimes a super show) you want to have a world champion on the SmackDown house show. Roman Reigns has held the WWE Championship for 485 days. WWE loves to rewrite history all the time. |
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Aug 1, 2023 12:30:55 GMT -5
Honky Tonk Man was absolute trash so glad to see that record gone. GUNTHER is far more interesting.
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