Does the lack of new FTITL Legends/Alumni bother you?

I agree and I'm sure there are other reasons in the past that some of these guys weren't sign, and my guess is that a big one was simply Vince McMahon holding grudges against former wrestlers.

Some may be due to Vince holding a grudge. Nailz would be one of these guys, I would think.

Some may be due to the wrestler themselves having a grudge against WWE or Vince or both. Sable comes to mind here.

Some are due to controversy. I love the Dark Side of the Ring series, but I would guess a good portion of these subjects will not ever see a figure from Mattel. Look how even Flair and Hogan disappeared when things popped up in their world. So lesser names like Fabulous Moolah, Dino Bravo, and even someone who they made previously like Jimmy Snuka are not going to be made.

Two are obvious - their names are Chris Benoit or Owen Hart.

Some may be for other reasons. Like literally, wasn't there a wrestler (Perry Saturn I think?) who was basically homeless and couldn't be found at some point?

That said, I would not be confident that Mattel would know a reason why WWE would not sign wrestler X when they could. That reasoning would stay within WWE, and depending on the situation, the reasoning may only stay with a select few people. Maybe it is petty, maybe there is another valid reason, but regardless, we will never know reasonings behind these types of decisions.


Completely understand the focus on the current roster, but as I mentioned in my previous post, I would think that this new Nostalgia contract could be interesting in this. Like wha was said above, that a lot of these guys that are regularly on the convention circuit would most likely take a relatively small payout - $5K or even $10K would be pennies to WWE to give these guys a 3 year contract to allow Mattel to make several figures of these guys, and that would more than pay for itself.

Let's use someone like Hercules. He was in WWE from 85-92. He was also with WCW for a short bit after that, and had brief stints with Crockett, Mid-South, and Florida before hitting the WWE in 85. He could easily be in a Wrestlemania series, a Legends series, but more than likely not a mainline series. Heck, if they were to sign Paul Roma, they could also put the both of them in a SummerSlam lineup. Heck, if they signed Roma they could do a 'wrestlecrap' figure of him as a Horseman, getting two figures out of him. So let's say Hercules was worth a 10K contract, and Roma was worth a 5K contract, getting 5 figures out of those two wrestlers would most likely make it worth it for all involved. Again, this is armchair quarterbacking by me, but logically everyone here would win, I would think.

Even if they don't deem it enough to make a shirt of each legend, (which I don't know much about), but I would think would be worth it to have an official shirt of, well almost anyone, even if it is just to sell on WWEshop.com. It wouldn't have to take up space at live events and such, but having it for the online shop wouldn't most likely hurt much, in my opinion.

I think it’s all the addition possible headaches etc wwe don’t want more than the cost involved and it’s just not worth their time and effort

If they sign these guys they have to have a system of monitoring how well their merch does, deciding if they want to renew, worrying about things they could do / say which could tarnish their image - look at the potential issues with Rick Steiner not long after he signed a deal etc. for marginal amounts it’s probably not worth the effort

Don’t get me wrong, I literally have 1 modern figure (Seth) and everything else is mainly 92-97 so I’d love more legends but I also get why we don’t get more

I wonder what the consensus is for current talent. I think the majority of people want more flashbacks compared to current talent, which I'm not against at all. Or do you guys believe it's more 50/50? Imagine if flashbacks were cut off completely, how would that change the game in terms of current talents being in the line? Would Mattel run out of attires or figures to make?

Whomever the higher ups at Mattel are needs to sit down with WWE and tell them they need to allow Mattel to sign stand alone deal and not have to go through Legends deals. Until then we're going to get the same handful of repaints over and over

As much as we want that, it's been years since they were allowed to sign their own deals. I don't see either company going back to it.

Why would Mattel add more costs when they don't have to?

Why would WWE sign a deal with them to release figures of the current roster and Legends that they have signed when Mattel is just going to release their own figures?

That's going to negatively impact WWE since they are signing people to Legends deals and spots are being taken away from them. Also, WWE doesn't want to do business with some of these people so Mattel would still need their approval.

If anything, I hope that they allow for less intrusive contracts (maybe that's what the nostalgia contracts are IF they are different from Legends) where they can just release X amount of figures over X amount of years.

Not every Legend needs a full 360 merch deal. Just have WWE sign them to a figure deal and game deal and let them make their indy/autograph appearances and sell their own t-shirts on the side. Maybe that will get some of the Legends to sign that don't want to give up their first born in order to sign a Legends deal.


Still doesn't solve the problem though of there only being so many spots that Mattel has to release X amount of figures a year.

I would love if they could do a a new FTIL on Mattel Collections (start out releasing a figure every other month) and then move on to once a month if it does well.