monroe
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Post by monroe on Aug 18, 2023 12:47:43 GMT -5
If the Headbangers get made they are a day 1 preorder for me .I met them in the 90s when they were tag team champions at a local wrestling school named bonebreakers ,That was the school for Maryland Championchip Wrestling .
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Post by Flair Forever on Aug 18, 2023 13:38:33 GMT -5
You know...Sting being back in the line could be doable. Jake Roberts & Billy Gunn both work full-time for AEW and we still get WWE figures for them - it would be cool if a similar deal could be worked out for the Stinger. It wouldn't really tread on Jazwares' toes either - let Jazwares keep making the modern Sting's, and leave Mattel to cover the WCW looks. Anything is possible, but I don't see Sting signing a Legends deal while he is signed with AEW (he might not even be allowed to). He might not even sign one after he leaves AEW (if he doesn't work as a manager or backstage). It was rumored that Jake gave up his likeness when he got out of his contract early in the 90s. Not sure if something similar happened with Billy or if he had a long Legends contract (sort of like when Hogan came back to WWE but Mattel couldn't make figures of him right away since he had a deal with Storm). They are the exception not the rule though. I want more Sting figures from Mattel, but I think there is a strong possibility that Sting never does business with WWE again. I mean.... If YOU were Sting.... would YOU wanna deal with WWE again? They pretty much botched his entire WWE run and damn near tarnished his legacy with the typical WWE mis-handling. I selfishly want more Mattel Sting figures, but I wouldn't blame Sting one bit if he never does business with WWE ever again. Tony Khan, for all that it's worth - - - has treated Sting like the Legend that he deserves. And I'm sure he's paying him plenty of money too. No reason to walk away from that for a company that crapped on you. Oh and....... the "Returning Legend" better be Ric Flair! |
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 18, 2023 13:47:17 GMT -5
New Legend: Dan Severn
Returning Legend: Great Khali
Holy Crap Legend: Sablee
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Post by breal59 on Aug 18, 2023 15:19:44 GMT -5
Anything is possible, but I don't see Sting signing a Legends deal while he is signed with AEW (he might not even be allowed to). He might not even sign one after he leaves AEW (if he doesn't work as a manager or backstage). It was rumored that Jake gave up his likeness when he got out of his contract early in the 90s. Not sure if something similar happened with Billy or if he had a long Legends contract (sort of like when Hogan came back to WWE but Mattel couldn't make figures of him right away since he had a deal with Storm). They are the exception not the rule though. I want more Sting figures from Mattel, but I think there is a strong possibility that Sting never does business with WWE again. I mean.... If YOU were Sting.... would YOU wanna deal with WWE again? They pretty much botched his entire WWE run and damn near tarnished his legacy with the typical WWE mis-handling. I selfishly want more Mattel Sting figures, but I wouldn't blame Sting one bit if he never does business with WWE ever again. Tony Khan, for all that it's worth - - - has treated Sting like the Legend that he deserves. And I'm sure he's paying him plenty of money too. No reason to walk away from that for a company that crapped on you. Oh and....... the "Returning Legend" better be Ric Flair! I agree. He came at a time when their mishandling was at its worse. I can't see him coming back for a Legends deal because they didn't treat him like one. |
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Post by kirk815 on Aug 18, 2023 18:31:20 GMT -5
I mean.... If YOU were Sting.... would YOU wanna deal with WWE again? They pretty much botched his entire WWE run and damn near tarnished his legacy with the typical WWE mis-handling. I selfishly want more Mattel Sting figures, but I wouldn't blame Sting one bit if he never does business with WWE ever again. Tony Khan, for all that it's worth - - - has treated Sting like the Legend that he deserves. And I'm sure he's paying him plenty of money too. No reason to walk away from that for a company that crapped on you. Oh and....... the "Returning Legend" better be Ric Flair! I agree. He came at a time when their mishandling was at its worse. I can't see him coming back for a Legends deal because they didn't treat him like one. Yeah, I agree with all of that - he also doesn't need the money. I hope he eventually does sign another Legends deal though. |
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Post by shanieomaniac on Aug 18, 2023 22:53:17 GMT -5
New Legend(s): The Headbangers. That one's pretty obvious.
Returning Legend: Probably Ric Flair
Holy Crap Legend: I'll guess Jesse Ventura for this one.
Wishlist
New Legend(s): Rosey w/ Jamal (As Three Minute Warning)
Returning Legend: Shane McMahon
Holy Crap Legend: Sable
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Post by dragonsleeper on Aug 19, 2023 3:49:18 GMT -5
I hope to God we finally get an WWF/AWA Martel
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 19, 2023 13:19:05 GMT -5
I hope to God we finally get an WWF/AWA Martel And some more Model figures too. |
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Post by PJ on Aug 20, 2023 6:55:51 GMT -5
Anything is possible, but I don't see Sting signing a Legends deal while he is signed with AEW (he might not even be allowed to). He might not even sign one after he leaves AEW (if he doesn't work as a manager or backstage). It was rumored that Jake gave up his likeness when he got out of his contract early in the 90s. Not sure if something similar happened with Billy or if he had a long Legends contract (sort of like when Hogan came back to WWE but Mattel couldn't make figures of him right away since he had a deal with Storm). They are the exception not the rule though. I want more Sting figures from Mattel, but I think there is a strong possibility that Sting never does business with WWE again. I mean.... If YOU were Sting.... would YOU wanna deal with WWE again? They pretty much botched his entire WWE run and damn near tarnished his legacy with the typical WWE mis-handling. I selfishly want more Mattel Sting figures, but I wouldn't blame Sting one bit if he never does business with WWE ever again. Tony Khan, for all that it's worth - - - has treated Sting like the Legend that he deserves. And I'm sure he's paying him plenty of money too. No reason to walk away from that for a company that crapped on you. Oh and....... the "Returning Legend" better be Ric Flair! I can easily Sting signing a legends/merchandise deal with the WWE when his AEW deal is done and he’s retired. Why wouldn’t he? He’ll clearly get more merchandise opportunities with the WWE than he will with AEW. Right off the bat thw WWE has all his NWA/WCW video footage in their library. |
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Post by kirk815 on Aug 20, 2023 10:49:55 GMT -5
I mean.... If YOU were Sting.... would YOU wanna deal with WWE again? They pretty much botched his entire WWE run and damn near tarnished his legacy with the typical WWE mis-handling. I selfishly want more Mattel Sting figures, but I wouldn't blame Sting one bit if he never does business with WWE ever again. Tony Khan, for all that it's worth - - - has treated Sting like the Legend that he deserves. And I'm sure he's paying him plenty of money too. No reason to walk away from that for a company that crapped on you. Oh and....... the "Returning Legend" better be Ric Flair! I can easily Sting signing a legends/merchandise deal with the WWE when his AEW deal is done and he’s retired. Why wouldn’t he? He’ll clearly get more merchandise opportunities with the WWE than he will with AEW. Right off the bat thw WWE has all his NWA/WCW video footage in their library. Obviously, that is a possibility. Although, I think that is what WE want so it's easy for us to say that's the easy and smart decision/why wouldn't he/he'd be a fool not to, etc. We probably could have said something similar when WCW went out of business, but he stayed away for another 13 years or so in TNA. Some people care more about money and Sting has never seemed like he was desperate for money or spent it all (like Flair). It's also possible that he will still work behind the scenes or Tony gives him their version of a Legends/merch contract. He can also join the same agency as Macho/Andre (that's what I would do if I was him). Sting is probably one wrestler that AEW/Jazwares could release new figures of in new attires/tshirts and people will probably still buy them (even tho he never wrestled in it or wore it on TV). |
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Post by kirk815 on Aug 20, 2023 11:16:24 GMT -5
Besides Shane McMahon and Ric Flair, I think another returning Legend will be Lita.
I believe she signed a new deal right before the 2022 Royal Rumble (like December 2021).
I'm really surprised that she hasn't been back in the line yet (Legends or a PLE/PPV series).
She'll probably be in the MNW line at some point (if it lasts that long).
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Post by PJ on Aug 20, 2023 12:00:31 GMT -5
I can easily Sting signing a legends/merchandise deal with the WWE when his AEW deal is done and he’s retired. Why wouldn’t he? He’ll clearly get more merchandise opportunities with the WWE than he will with AEW. Right off the bat thw WWE has all his NWA/WCW video footage in their library. Obviously, that is a possibility. Although, I think that is what WE want so it's easy for us to say that's the easy and smart decision/why wouldn't he/he'd be a fool not to, etc. We probably could have said something similar when WCW went out of business, but he stayed away for another 13 years or so in TNA. Some people care more about money and Sting has never seemed like he was desperate for money or spent it all (like Flair). It's also possible that he will still work behind the scenes or Tony gives him their version of a Legends/merch contract. He can also join the same agency as Macho/Andre (that's what I would do if I was him). Sting is probably one wrestler that AEW/Jazwares could release new figures of in new attires/tshirts and people will probably still buy them (even tho he never wrestled in it or wore it on TV). I see Sting as someone who cares about his legacy and if he signs a “Legends” deal with AEW when he retires he won’t get any career type DVD’s with footage from his prime because the WWE owns all that WCW footage. For that alone I could see him signing a legends/merchandise deal with the wwe as it would be more opportunities for merchandise. Let’s be honest there’s got to be a reason Jazwares pretty much keeps releasing the same modern figure with a different tshirt or head scan. Where’s the Flashback type Sting figure? Even his Luminaries figure was a modern look. |
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Post by kirk815 on Aug 20, 2023 12:17:35 GMT -5
Obviously, that is a possibility. Although, I think that is what WE want so it's easy for us to say that's the easy and smart decision/why wouldn't he/he'd be a fool not to, etc. We probably could have said something similar when WCW went out of business, but he stayed away for another 13 years or so in TNA. Some people care more about money and Sting has never seemed like he was desperate for money or spent it all (like Flair). It's also possible that he will still work behind the scenes or Tony gives him their version of a Legends/merch contract. He can also join the same agency as Macho/Andre (that's what I would do if I was him). Sting is probably one wrestler that AEW/Jazwares could release new figures of in new attires/tshirts and people will probably still buy them (even tho he never wrestled in it or wore it on TV). I see Sting as someone who cares about his legacy and if he signs a “Legends” deal with AEW when he retires he won’t get any career type DVD’s with footage from his prime because the WWE owns all that WCW footage. For that alone I could see him signing a legends/merchandise deal with the wwe as it would be more opportunities for merchandise. Let’s be honest there’s got to be a reason Jazwares pretty much keeps releasing the same modern figure with a different tshirt or head scan. Where’s the Flashback type Sting figure? Even his Luminaries figure was a modern look. WWE might have already gave him a DVD or access to his matches when he previously signed (for his own personal use). WWE doesn't really release physical media anymore so I don't see them releasing DVDs if Sting signs again (they could probably do that now if they wanted to). For some reason, Jazwares is steering clear of any WCW/WWE looks (even generic looks - still don't know why they can't release Owen in a plain black/pink singlet with a plain pleather jacket). With Sting though, they really don't need to release Flashbacks of him. That was my original point - they can just continue to release figures of him with a new AEW shirt on his figure and they will still sell. |
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Post by stc13 on Aug 20, 2023 12:22:25 GMT -5
Obviously, that is a possibility. Although, I think that is what WE want so it's easy for us to say that's the easy and smart decision/why wouldn't he/he'd be a fool not to, etc. We probably could have said something similar when WCW went out of business, but he stayed away for another 13 years or so in TNA. Some people care more about money and Sting has never seemed like he was desperate for money or spent it all (like Flair). It's also possible that he will still work behind the scenes or Tony gives him their version of a Legends/merch contract. He can also join the same agency as Macho/Andre (that's what I would do if I was him). Sting is probably one wrestler that AEW/Jazwares could release new figures of in new attires/tshirts and people will probably still buy them (even tho he never wrestled in it or wore it on TV). I see Sting as someone who cares about his legacy and if he signs a “Legends” deal with AEW when he retires he won’t get any career type DVD’s with footage from his prime because the WWE owns all that WCW footage. For that alone I could see him signing a legends/merchandise deal with the wwe as it would be more opportunities for merchandise. Let’s be honest there’s got to be a reason Jazwares pretty much keeps releasing the same modern figure with a different tshirt or head scan. Where’s the Flashback type Sting figure? Even his Luminaries figure was a modern look. Pretty much his entire prime is up for streaming any time on Peacock. The era of needing DVD or Network Specials to bring eyeballs to wrestler are long gone. And he'll generate plenty of revenue in retirement whether he sticks with AEW on a merch deal or through Pro Wrestling Tees. He also seems to genuinely enjoy doing conventions and interacting with fans. If he's simply looking to maximize his passive income, WWE is in a league of their own. But I'm pretty sure Sting has done really well outside of wrestling - I think he got into real estate. He avoided WWE for decades because he didn't trust Vince. He finally gave in, and I think it's hard to argue that all of his instincts weren't proven correct. Never say never, but it seems like a big stretch to think he'd do business with them again, especially with Vince still running things. |
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Post by kirk815 on Aug 20, 2023 13:00:50 GMT -5
I see Sting as someone who cares about his legacy and if he signs a “Legends” deal with AEW when he retires he won’t get any career type DVD’s with footage from his prime because the WWE owns all that WCW footage. For that alone I could see him signing a legends/merchandise deal with the wwe as it would be more opportunities for merchandise. Let’s be honest there’s got to be a reason Jazwares pretty much keeps releasing the same modern figure with a different tshirt or head scan. Where’s the Flashback type Sting figure? Even his Luminaries figure was a modern look. Pretty much his entire prime is up for streaming any time on Peacock. The era of needing DVD or Network Specials to bring eyeballs to wrestler are long gone. And he'll generate plenty of revenue in retirement whether he sticks with AEW on a merch deal or through Pro Wrestling Tees. He also seems to genuinely enjoy doing conventions and interacting with fans. If he's simply looking to maximize his passive income, WWE is in a league of their own. But I'm pretty sure Sting has done really well outside of wrestling - I think he got into real estate. He avoided WWE for decades because he didn't trust Vince. He finally gave in, and I think it's hard to argue that all of his instincts weren't proven correct. Never say never, but it seems like a big stretch to think he'd do business with them again, especially with Vince still running things. Yeah, Vince can be petty - he won the war - that should have been enough. If WWE cared about WCW's legacy, they wouldn't have ignored it (except for the MNW documentaries where the focus is on WWE eventually beating them). They could of continued the brand or utilized some of the concepts/PPV a lot faster and a lot more (they've started to with NXT and Wargames, but how long did that take). I think that is why Cody (I think it was him) was able to trademark some of the WCW PPV names since WWE let them lapse - probably the only reason why they run a Starrcade house show every now and then so they don't lose the rights. Why haven't they done a WCW Nitro Retro set/show every now and then? Would probably pop the ratings (like Raw anniversary shows) and the synergy could have helped fund the stage if they timed it right. Look how long it has taken Mattel to get approval for a WCW subline (that of course has to involve WWE) and their belts. I'm sure they tried several times before then and were shot down. And my own personal opinion/speculation is that it wasn't Mattel holding back on the Sting figures (especially the surfer Stings) - they need licensor approval. Funny thing is I just read this article released today - anything can happen, but it doesn't sound like Tony is going to just let Sting walk off into the WWE sunset without a fight (if Sting even considers doing something with them again after the way they treated him): "When you talk about some of the biggest names in pro wrestling, for me it starts and ends with Sting. He's one of the all-time legends. He's one of my all-time favorites. Sting is still a huge part of AEW, and one of the greatest things we accomplished was bringing Sting out of retirement. He is still wrestling to this day. He is undefeated in AEW, in fact, and he's on the greatest run of his career right now in AEW." Read More: www.wrestlinginc.com/1370848/tony-khan-calls-aew-run-greatest-sting-career/ |
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Post by Flair Forever on Aug 20, 2023 13:23:52 GMT -5
Obviously, that is a possibility. Although, I think that is what WE want so it's easy for us to say that's the easy and smart decision/why wouldn't he/he'd be a fool not to, etc. We probably could have said something similar when WCW went out of business, but he stayed away for another 13 years or so in TNA. Some people care more about money and Sting has never seemed like he was desperate for money or spent it all (like Flair). It's also possible that he will still work behind the scenes or Tony gives him their version of a Legends/merch contract. He can also join the same agency as Macho/Andre (that's what I would do if I was him). Sting is probably one wrestler that AEW/Jazwares could release new figures of in new attires/tshirts and people will probably still buy them (even tho he never wrestled in it or wore it on TV). I see Sting as someone who cares about his legacy and if he signs a “Legends” deal with AEW when he retires he won’t get any career type DVD’s with footage from his prime because the WWE owns all that WCW footage. For that alone I could see him signing a legends/merchandise deal with the wwe as it would be more opportunities for merchandise. Let’s be honest there’s got to be a reason Jazwares pretty much keeps releasing the same modern figure with a different tshirt or head scan. Where’s the Flashback type Sting figure? Even his Luminaries figure was a modern look. I have a pretty good "buddy" in the apparel industry who has dealt with Sting, he indicated that Sting himself does have the rights to ALL of his prior facepaint designs and overall attires...... he is free to use his "older look" however he pleases. Based on what I have heard, Jazwares should be able to do retro Sting figures as long as Sting approves of them.... |
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Post by stc13 on Aug 20, 2023 13:36:02 GMT -5
Pretty much his entire prime is up for streaming any time on Peacock. The era of needing DVD or Network Specials to bring eyeballs to wrestler are long gone. And he'll generate plenty of revenue in retirement whether he sticks with AEW on a merch deal or through Pro Wrestling Tees. He also seems to genuinely enjoy doing conventions and interacting with fans. If he's simply looking to maximize his passive income, WWE is in a league of their own. But I'm pretty sure Sting has done really well outside of wrestling - I think he got into real estate. He avoided WWE for decades because he didn't trust Vince. He finally gave in, and I think it's hard to argue that all of his instincts weren't proven correct. Never say never, but it seems like a big stretch to think he'd do business with them again, especially with Vince still running things. Yeah, Vince can be petty - he won the war - that should have been enough. If WWE cared about WCW's legacy, they wouldn't have ignored it (except for the MNW documentaries where the focus is on WWE eventually beating them). They could of continued the brand or utilized some of the concepts/PPV a lot faster and a lot more (they've started to with NXT and Wargames, but how long did that take). I think that is why Cody (I think it was him) was able to trademark some of the WCW PPV names since WWE let them lapse - probably the only reason why they run a Starrcade house show every now and then so they don't lose the rights. Why haven't they done a WCW Nitro Retro set/show every now and then? Would probably pop the ratings (like Raw anniversary shows) and the synergy could have helped fund the stage if they timed it right. Look how long it has taken Mattel to get approval for a WCW subline (that of course has to involve WWE) and their belts. I'm sure they tried several times before then and were shot down. And my own personal opinion/speculation is that it wasn't Mattel holding back on the Sting figures (especially the surfer Stings) - they need licensor approval. Funny thing is I just read this article released today - anything can happen, but it doesn't sound like Tony is going to just let Sting walk off into the WWE sunset without a fight (if Sting even considers doing something with them again after the way they treated him): "When you talk about some of the biggest names in pro wrestling, for me it starts and ends with Sting. He's one of the all-time legends. He's one of my all-time favorites. Sting is still a huge part of AEW, and one of the greatest things we accomplished was bringing Sting out of retirement. He is still wrestling to this day. He is undefeated in AEW, in fact, and he's on the greatest run of his career right now in AEW." Read More: www.wrestlinginc.com/1370848/tony-khan-calls-aew-run-greatest-sting-career/Even though Sting was available for quite a few years, it was a weird period in the line. They were having sub-lines cancelled left and right (HOF, HOC, FB, DM, TNF, etc) and the focus of the main lines were more towards current talent with a growing following for NXT. They could and should have made more figures, but it was a tough balance to knock out current looks and fit in retro versions. I think that's why we got so many basics - that's where there were more slots at the time. As far as WWE's use of the WCW brand...ugh, don't get me started. It blows my mind that they owned a recognizable IP that still had value/recognition and did virtually nothing with it beyond a tape library for 20 years. |
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Post by PJ on Aug 20, 2023 14:49:38 GMT -5
Pretty much his entire prime is up for streaming any time on Peacock. The era of needing DVD or Network Specials to bring eyeballs to wrestler are long gone. And he'll generate plenty of revenue in retirement whether he sticks with AEW on a merch deal or through Pro Wrestling Tees. He also seems to genuinely enjoy doing conventions and interacting with fans. If he's simply looking to maximize his passive income, WWE is in a league of their own. But I'm pretty sure Sting has done really well outside of wrestling - I think he got into real estate. He avoided WWE for decades because he didn't trust Vince. He finally gave in, and I think it's hard to argue that all of his instincts weren't proven correct. Never say never, but it seems like a big stretch to think he'd do business with them again, especially with Vince still running things. Yeah, Vince can be petty - he won the war - that should have been enough. If WWE cared about WCW's legacy, they wouldn't have ignored it (except for the MNW documentaries where the focus is on WWE eventually beating them). They could of continued the brand or utilized some of the concepts/PPV a lot faster and a lot more (they've started to with NXT and Wargames, but how long did that take). I think that is why Cody (I think it was him) was able to trademark some of the WCW PPV names since WWE let them lapse - probably the only reason why they run a Starrcade house show every now and then so they don't lose the rights. Why haven't they done a WCW Nitro Retro set/show every now and then? Would probably pop the ratings (like Raw anniversary shows) and the synergy could have helped fund the stage if they timed it right. Look how long it has taken Mattel to get approval for a WCW subline (that of course has to involve WWE) and their belts. I'm sure they tried several times before then and were shot down. And my own personal opinion/speculation is that it wasn't Mattel holding back on the Sting figures (especially the surfer Stings) - they need licensor approval. Funny thing is I just read this article released today - anything can happen, but it doesn't sound like Tony is going to just let Sting walk off into the WWE sunset without a fight (if Sting even considers doing something with them again after the way they treated him): "When you talk about some of the biggest names in pro wrestling, for me it starts and ends with Sting. He's one of the all-time legends. He's one of my all-time favorites. Sting is still a huge part of AEW, and one of the greatest things we accomplished was bringing Sting out of retirement. He is still wrestling to this day. He is undefeated in AEW, in fact, and he's on the greatest run of his career right now in AEW." Read More: www.wrestlinginc.com/1370848/tony-khan-calls-aew-run-greatest-sting-career/Everyone here knows how much I love Sting but AEW is hardly the greatest run of his career regardless of what TK is saying. Is he having a nice run? Sure but at this point in his career at age 64 he has his limitations and is only in tag matches. For me as a fan of his anytime Sting is on TV it’s awesome. That said I think I read or heard he was embarrassed to be part of AEW after CM Punk’s hissy fit with Hangman and the VP’s, but that was hearsay I doubt he would ever say anything publicly. If true and he was happy there I bet he’s not as happy with that locker room cancer being there. And since Cody left I feel like AEW isn’t as good of a company as they were prior. I know he stayed away from the WWE for years because of how Vince treated other WCW starts. I do think even though it wasn’t the run we wanted as fans when he did finally come to the WWE he was still happy with it. I do think he knew what his role was at that stage of his career and was happy with it. At least until the injury and not being cleared to compete. Are there things I wanted to have been different? Sure. I think Undertaker should have agreed to the WM match Sting wanted. Taker should have taken his own advice and sucked it up like he told Jericho to do with Fandango. And while he didn’t need to win the WM match with Triple H it should have been just him and Triple H. I know I didn’t want to see the NWO vs DX, but I think Sting was still happy with that. So I don’t think Sting felt like they did him wrong at least I haven’t heard or read anything to confirm that, but he’s such a class act I doubt we ever would hear him say anything negative anyway. But that said I honestly do think the WWE is the better option for post career merchandise deals. But I’m not Sting and can only speculate what he would do. Although that is what I would like to see. I want a variety of Surfer Sting and Crow Sting figures. Not just the same figure with a different shirt decal. |
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Post by glassoni0n on Aug 21, 2023 9:55:15 GMT -5
There's lots of names I want, but at this point I'm most concerned with seeing the big names return to the line. Macho Man, Ric Flair, Sting, WWE needs to get their valuable IPs straightened out before I can really get excited about the secondary and tertiary characters.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Aug 22, 2023 5:23:00 GMT -5
Since it appears I'm not the only one thinking Shane will return to the series...
*points to watch*
Tick tock Mattel. Where is my X-Seven figure. Mama needs some more Shane figures.
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