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Post by hitmancmedge on Aug 14, 2023 7:57:22 GMT -5
So if Rude doesn’t get hurt, but all accounts he is turning babyface. How in the hell does that even work in the Hogan era? At the time he was a top 3 heel in the company, but he turns face he is immediately below Hogan, Sting, and competing against Steamboat and Dustin Rhodes. Not to mention Macho coming in months after. While I would have been interested in seeing a face Rick Rude, at that point in time it would have been a bad fit.
Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 8:14:11 GMT -5
i feel it would have been short lived, then back to heel to face hulk, macho, etc
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 14, 2023 9:09:45 GMT -5
Has that been said? I just thought they were going to do a heel vs. heel feud with Vader, and Rude was just going to be more of the babyface of the two. It's hard to imagine Rude as a babyface, he was such a great heel. Like @classicfan2 said, if they did turn him babyface, I think it would have been a short time deal. Maybe they were thinking that with Hogan coming in, Flair was going to go back to being a full-time heel which would have pushed Rude's place down the card on the heel side. But switching him to babyface wouldn't have helped him any, he was never going to be higher than the #3 face in the company, and by the time Savage would arrive, that would probably push him down even further. At best, he probably could have been an ally with Hogan and Sting vs. Flair, Vader, and Sullivan for a short time, only to turn on them later in the year. A Macho Man/Rick Rude feud would have been something I would have wanted to see.
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Post by hbkjason on Aug 14, 2023 9:23:19 GMT -5
If anything, I could have seen him pretending to be a babyface for a few weeks with someone like Hogan or Sting and then turning on them. I just do not see him as a legit babyface as he was so good at being a heel.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 14, 2023 11:19:30 GMT -5
Rude is just one of those guys I could never see being a babyface. If he had remained unhurt? He had a lot of cracking matches left in him. Savage for one.
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Post by The Brain on Aug 14, 2023 12:13:23 GMT -5
With how talented he was I have no doubt he couldve pulled it off.But I for one though wouldve wanted him to continue on as a heel as he was so damn good in the role
A feud with Mach in 95 wouldve been fantastic
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 14, 2023 12:32:44 GMT -5
With how talented he was I have no doubt he couldve pulled it off.But I for one though wouldve wanted him to continue on as a heel as he was so damn good in the role A feud with Mach in 95 wouldve been fantastic Thats the one I focused on too. Rude was a fantastic heel and could make anyone look great because he would bump like an effin pinball for them. savage 7 Rude would have had great chemistry IMHO. |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 14, 2023 12:55:43 GMT -5
With how talented he was I have no doubt he couldve pulled it off.But I for one though wouldve wanted him to continue on as a heel as he was so damn good in the role A feud with Mach in 95 wouldve been fantasticSome dream matches could have happened then, Savage & Sting vs. Rude and Flair would have been huge. Now the question is, if he stayed healthy (and with WCW), when the NWO storyline comes about, does he jump ship and join the NWO or stay with WCW? He definitely would have fit the NWO since he was a big star for the WWF prior, but by that time, he would have been with WCW longer than he was with WWF, so would he have been a WCW guy fighting against the NWO? |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 14, 2023 13:09:53 GMT -5
With how talented he was I have no doubt he couldve pulled it off.But I for one though wouldve wanted him to continue on as a heel as he was so damn good in the role A feud with Mach in 95 wouldve been fantasticSome dream matches could have happened then, Savage & Sting vs. Rude and Flair would have been huge. Now the question is, if he stayed healthy (and with WCW), when the NWO storyline comes about, does he jump ship and join the NWO or stay with WCW? He definitely would have fit the NWO since he was a big star for the WWF prior, but by that time, he would have been with WCW longer than he was with WWF, so would he have been a WCW guy fighting against the NWO? Knowing WCW they wouldve most likely had em join But if there was a time to turn em baby then no doubt it was this angle. Have em pull a DDP and tease like he's gonna join only for BAM attack Hogan. Imagine the POP |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 14, 2023 15:05:22 GMT -5
Technically, Rude was a babyface in ECW in his war with Shane Douglas and even how he did the commentary.
He was babyface on the indys in his feud with the Honky Tonk Man in 1991.
So Rude could do it.
However, in 1994 I see Rude's "face turn" being like that of which Triple H had in fall of 2000. Where Hunter wasn't really a face, he was just wrestling guys like Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit who fans didn't like at all at that time. So Hunter was automatically the good guy. Then that night on Raw he attacked Austin, showing his true colours all along.
I feel Rude would have done the same thing. He would have soaked in the cheers in the matches with Vader, but I feel Rude would have eventually showed his true colours and probably at the expense of Sting Ha ha ha
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 14, 2023 17:00:23 GMT -5
With how talented he was I have no doubt he couldve pulled it off.But I for one though wouldve wanted him to continue on as a heel as he was so damn good in the role A feud with Mach in 95 wouldve been fantasticSome dream matches could have happened then, Savage & Sting vs. Rude and Flair would have been huge. Now the question is, if he stayed healthy (and with WCW), when the NWO storyline comes about, does he jump ship and join the NWO or stay with WCW? He definitely would have fit the NWO since he was a big star for the WWF prior, but by that time, he would have been with WCW longer than he was with WWF, so would he have been a WCW guy fighting against the NWO? I think Rude would have jumped back to Vince. He would have likely been pushed down the card with the arrival of the nWo & he would have seen it coming or copped on by 97 |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 14, 2023 18:10:50 GMT -5
Some dream matches could have happened then, Savage & Sting vs. Rude and Flair would have been huge. Now the question is, if he stayed healthy (and with WCW), when the NWO storyline comes about, does he jump ship and join the NWO or stay with WCW? He definitely would have fit the NWO since he was a big star for the WWF prior, but by that time, he would have been with WCW longer than he was with WWF, so would he have been a WCW guy fighting against the NWO? . He would have likely been pushed down the card with the arrival of the nWo & he would have seen it coming or copped on by 97 Another IC run wouldve been great. plus it wouldve been fun to see em interact with Austin again at some point |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 14, 2023 18:22:11 GMT -5
Some dream matches could have happened then, Savage & Sting vs. Rude and Flair would have been huge. Now the question is, if he stayed healthy (and with WCW), when the NWO storyline comes about, does he jump ship and join the NWO or stay with WCW? He definitely would have fit the NWO since he was a big star for the WWF prior, but by that time, he would have been with WCW longer than he was with WWF, so would he have been a WCW guy fighting against the NWO? I think Rude would have jumped back to Vince. He would have likely been pushed down the card with the arrival of the nWo & he would have seen it coming or copped on by 97 I wonder if he would have tried to jump back to WWF in 1994/95 after Hogan arrived. If so, I would have loved to see him beat Bret for the WWF title at Survivor Series 1994, then drop it back to Bret in 1995. He also could have held it for a bit and dropped it to Diesel at WM11. |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 14, 2023 18:35:02 GMT -5
I think Rude would have jumped back to Vince. He would have likely been pushed down the card with the arrival of the nWo & he would have seen it coming or copped on by 97 If so, I would have loved to see him beat Bret for the WWF title at Survivor Series 1994, then drop it back to Bret in 1995. He also could have held it for a bit and dropped it to Diesel at WM11. This is something I thought about in the past. If he stayed then Him vs Hogan at Starrcade that year for the belt wouldve been helluva more ideal than Hogan/Butcher. He had no chance of winning but still he wouldve been in the main event of their Mania But I can see him thinking with Hogan and friends arriving his time was coming to an end with him leaving by years end. I do like the scenario of him taking Backlunds place and facing Bret at SSeries with him winning and holding it till Mania. Only thing where does it leave Shawn as he's been building to a feud with Diesel since SSlam |
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 14, 2023 18:42:42 GMT -5
I wonder if he would have tried to jump back to WWF in 1994/95 after Hogan arrived. If so, I would have loved to see him beat Bret for the WWF title at Survivor Series 1994, then drop it back to Bret in 1995. He also could have held it for a bit and dropped it to Diesel at WM11. This is something I thought about in the past. If he stayed then Him vs Hogan at Starrcade that year for the belt wouldve been helluva more ideal than Hogan/Butcher. He had no chance of winning but still he wouldve been in the main event of their Mania But I can see him thinking with Hogan and friends arriving his time was coming to an end with him leaving by years end. I do like the scenario of him taking Backlunds place and facing Bret at SSeries with him winning and holding it till Mania. Only thing where does it leave Shawn as he's been building to a feud with Diesel since SSlam Yeah, Rude vs. Hogan at Starrcade would have been much more ideal than Brutus. Especially since by then, Hogan had finished his run with Flair. But I could see Rude looking to jump ship, like you said, he probably would have seen Hogan and friends coming in and thinking to himself that it was going to get better for him - especially in the world title scene. Diesel could win the 1995 Royal Rumble, last eliminating HBK, to get the shot at WM11. Then Diesel beats Rude for the WWF title at WM11 and faces Shawn at the next PPV (which I think was the first In Your House PPV). The night after that PPV, they could do the Sid angle when he attacks HBK and Diesel comes to his rescue. For Rude, he goes into a feud with Bret after WM11 to finish their story. |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 14, 2023 18:51:26 GMT -5
This is something I thought about in the past. If he stayed then Him vs Hogan at Starrcade that year for the belt wouldve been helluva more ideal than Hogan/Butcher. He had no chance of winning but still he wouldve been in the main event of their Mania But I can see him thinking with Hogan and friends arriving his time was coming to an end with him leaving by years end. I do like the scenario of him taking Backlunds place and facing Bret at SSeries with him winning and holding it till Mania. Only thing where does it leave Shawn as he's been building to a feud with Diesel since SSlam Yeah, Rude vs. Hogan at Starrcade would have been much more ideal than Brutus. Especially since by then, Hogan had finished his run with Flair. But I could see Rude looking to jump ship, like you said, he probably would have seen Hogan and friends coming in and thinking to himself that it was going to get better for him - especially in the world title scene. Diesel could win the 1995 Royal Rumble, last eliminating HBK, to get the shot at WM11. Then Diesel beats Rude for the WWF title at WM11 and faces Shawn at the next PPV (which I think was the first In Your House PPV). The night after that PPV, they could do the Sid angle when he attacks HBK and Diesel comes to his rescue. For Rude, he goes into a feud with Bret after WM11 to finish their story. This is all a big IF Vince put the belt on Rude if he did jump ship which is questionable.Remember he didnt leave the WWF on the best of terms back in 1990 I like your scenario though nonetheless |
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 19, 2023 6:51:19 GMT -5
It would have been short lived. Hell, I could see Rude leaving WCW whenever his contract was up due to Hogan being there. He left the WWF because of a pay dispute and feeling he wasn’t given a fair shot at the main event. Depending on when his contract was up I could see a return to the WWF to feud with Bret, HBK, Diesel, ect…
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