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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 3, 2023 9:00:48 GMT -5
There’s no need to crowdfund figures. What would the consumer be funding? An open preorder makes more sense for multipacks. What's the difference between an open pre-order and crowdfunding though? (genuine question). Don't they both need a certain number of orders/backers to make the item worthwhile and get it into production? Open preorder a company taking orders during a small window before going into production. Whatever orders are placed during this time is all they intend to make. This is the model they used for the UE Cody and Paul. There isn’t any minimum goal that has to be reached. That being said, if there’s absolutely no interest and sales are extremely low then there is the possibility of being canceled like what happened with the Good Brothers and Super7. |
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Post by dynamitekido on Sept 3, 2023 13:10:03 GMT -5
I have little to no interest in any kind of crowdfunding of figures. Not even sure I'd have any interest in another crowdfund ever again for something beyond figures.
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Post by newgenandy on Sept 4, 2023 1:56:18 GMT -5
I think crowdfunds have had their day.
When the barge come out (first I was aware of) it was an event. The huge marvel legends figure (galactus?) Same.
Then what happens once one thing is successful? The industry gets flooded and it’s no longer a special event. It’s expected.
Crowdfunding should be an adhoc rather than yearly thing. You get a wwe one in 2021, then another property 2024 then wwe again 2026 - 3 year gap, 2 year gap…then maybe even a 4 year gap. Really build interest. Don’t do it in every line, do it for a line then a break of a few years then another line gets one. Really make it an event again.
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Post by Vamp55 on Sept 4, 2023 4:24:09 GMT -5
I’ve thought there is a way to basically do this, but include a backstage set.
Pipers Pit or Funeral Parlour.
I think you could basically fill them out with stacks and stacks of figures as the tiers - could basically include anyone and everyone who’s been on either.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Sept 4, 2023 6:42:38 GMT -5
If they crowdfunded a full set of The Bloodline together as ultimates, all tooled and detailed to perfection, with none of this "Jimmy/Jey" or "Why is Solo Skinny" nonsense, I would hit that button to crowdfund so fast my bank account would do the Wilhelm Scream.
ETA: With ALLLLL the belts as well. Shiny tags, Custom plated for Roman, AND North American for Solo. And while you are at it, give us Jey's friggin crop top, the man spent that entire run allergic to having his shirts intact, there's no reason why Jimmy and Jey should have the same cloth goods shirt. Do it. Do it right. And stop trying to part out the quality so we have to buy multiple releases of each to make the setup WORK.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 4, 2023 9:06:51 GMT -5
Knowing full well figure only crowdfunds will never be a thing my ideal multipack would probably be Team Madness. Macho you would devote most of the budget to. Cloth leather pants over star tights, mesh MACHO shirt, swappable furry arms & coat, shiny club shirt, kangol hat, glasses, and chains. Madusa in USA attire, Miss Madness in in evening gown and sash, Sid in his plain black attire and vest, George in in some short shorts, high boots, and boa.  |
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Post by jt on Sept 4, 2023 14:17:14 GMT -5
Realistic
Back In The Territories
CWF/Crockett Era Dusty Rhodes with a fur coat or the trippy robes
WCCW Kerry Von Erich
CWA/Memphis era Jerry Lawler and Terry Funk
Adrian Street
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Too Controversial For Retail
Coliseum Collection British Bulldogs
WrestleMania 20 Chris Benoit
Coliseum Collection Adrian Adonis
CWF Nancy Benoit as Woman
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 4, 2023 16:43:05 GMT -5
I think AFA already said that crowdfunds wouldn't be for just figures. It would have to be for something that couldn't be sold at retail. I wouldn't mind interview sets with a couple figures, kind of like the old build-a-set waves, this time with more detail and one or two UE figures with one of the figures being of someone who wouldn't get an UE figure normally. For instance, the Piper's Pit with an UE Piper and maybe Bob Orton. Or the Funeral Parlor set with Paul Bearer and Taker (or Warrior from the segment when he was locked in the casket). Or the Barber Shop with Brutus the Barber and Shawn Michaels from the Rockers split segment. Or a Saturday Night's Main Event set with ring skirts that could go on the New Generation Ring, and the figure could be Vince McMahon or Jesse Ventura (if he ever signed). Keep it simple and not too expensive.
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Post by Keck Collects on Sept 4, 2023 16:44:49 GMT -5
No interest whatsoever in crowdfunding A-listers and B-listers who have already had loads of figures and would sell perfectly well in regular channels, and I find even the suggestion somewhat irritating - this is not what crowdfunding is for. People coming along and listing their personal wantlist of The Rock and Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels in very specific attires, and acting like this is somehow a fit for a crowdfunding model is ridiculous. I'm only interested in crowdfunding more obscure talent who might not sell through regular channels and who haven't had any/many figures. And honestly some kind of new strategy such as manufacture on demand process is probably a better idea than crowdfunding anyway, trying to hit minimums and the constant worry and disappointment of that. Overall I don't think crowdfunding is the answer to many things in today's collecting climate. I have to agree with The Assassin here, because the figures named in the original post, are A) re-releases as suggested, and B) would have zero trouble selling in a retail setting. C) those named have had multiple figures released as well in different looks/attires, other than the suggested Steiner (which is coming), or Koloff. Online exclusives, made to order like Cody and Logan Paul, and even crowd funds should be reserved for things that will not make it at Target or Walmart. If Mattel was going to go this route, it should be made to order style, and with a list of selections not likely to make it to retail. Maybe go the Matty Collector route and try a poll and release the winners of that poll. TL:DR, Hogan, Hall, Nash etc will have no problem selling and do not need a crowdfund gimmick to get them made. |
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Post by jt on Sept 4, 2023 16:57:21 GMT -5
I think AFA already said that crowdfunds wouldn't be for just figures. It would have to be for something that couldn't be sold at retail. I wouldn't mind interview sets with a couple figures, kind of like the old build-a-set waves, this time with more detail and one or two UE figures with one of the figures being of someone who wouldn't get an UE figure normally. For instance, the Piper's Pit with an UE Piper and maybe Bob Orton. Or the Funeral Parlor set with Paul Bearer and Taker (or Warrior from the segment when he was locked in the casket). Or the Barber Shop with Brutus the Barber and Shawn Michaels from the Rockers split segment. Or a Saturday Night's Main Event set with ring skirts that could go on the New Generation Ring, and the figure could be Vince McMahon or Jesse Ventura (if he ever signed). Keep it simple and not too expensive. I'd pay basically any amount of money for a rockers breakup Shawn. I'd like jannetty too but it's insane they haven't done that version of shawn michaels yet |
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 4, 2023 17:00:31 GMT -5
I think AFA already said that crowdfunds wouldn't be for just figures. It would have to be for something that couldn't be sold at retail. I wouldn't mind interview sets with a couple figures, kind of like the old build-a-set waves, this time with more detail and one or two UE figures with one of the figures being of someone who wouldn't get an UE figure normally. For instance, the Piper's Pit with an UE Piper and maybe Bob Orton. Or the Funeral Parlor set with Paul Bearer and Taker (or Warrior from the segment when he was locked in the casket). Or the Barber Shop with Brutus the Barber and Shawn Michaels from the Rockers split segment. Or a Saturday Night's Main Event set with ring skirts that could go on the New Generation Ring, and the figure could be Vince McMahon or Jesse Ventura (if he ever signed). Keep it simple and not too expensive. I'd pay basically any amount of money for a rockers breakup Shawn. I'd like jannetty too but it's insane they haven't done that version of shawn michaels yet Yeah, both would be great, but I don't think they are signing Marty anytime soon. It would be cool if they could make a mini-WWF magazine as an accessory like the one Shawn tore up on the segment. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 4, 2023 17:34:52 GMT -5
I just think an UE 4 or 5 pack of figures that wouldn't necessarily sell at retail (like the UE Doink) would work. Better than giant stages and the like, anyway... most of the interest and discussion is about the figures anyway.
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Post by jt on Sept 4, 2023 18:53:31 GMT -5
I'd pay basically any amount of money for a rockers breakup Shawn. I'd like jannetty too but it's insane they haven't done that version of shawn michaels yet Yeah, both would be great, but I don't think they are signing Marty anytime soon. It would be cool if they could make a mini-WWF magazine as an accessory like the one Shawn tore up on the segment. The magazine would be a must have for the figure. Honestly a shame they won't sign Marty considering some of the other people they'll do figures of. I know I paid a pretty penny to secure a loose rockers set cause I had to have one in my collection, I'd have much preferred to just buy a new one from Mattel if they'd make it available. I'm sure he'd take whatever WWE would offer at this point too |
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Sept 6, 2023 13:26:51 GMT -5
Mattel Creations is the perfect place for things like this. If a company like Super 7 can handle "made to order" items, so can Mattel. Mattel could certainly offer a premium boxed set, at a premium price, that the majority of us would be willing to pay
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Post by Flair Forever on Sept 7, 2023 17:48:42 GMT -5
What's the difference between an open pre-order and crowdfunding though? (genuine question). Don't they both need a certain number of orders/backers to make the item worthwhile and get it into production? Open preorder a company taking orders during a small window before going into production. Whatever orders are placed during this time is all they intend to make. This is the model they used for the UE Cody and Paul. There isn’t any minimum goal that has to be reached. That being said, if there’s absolutely no interest and sales are extremely low then there is the possibility of being canceled like what happened with the Good Brothers and Super7. Sounds good on paper, but then how do we explain countless "preorders" selling out? |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 7, 2023 18:46:02 GMT -5
Open preorder a company taking orders during a small window before going into production. Whatever orders are placed during this time is all they intend to make. This is the model they used for the UE Cody and Paul. There isn’t any minimum goal that has to be reached. That being said, if there’s absolutely no interest and sales are extremely low then there is the possibility of being canceled like what happened with the Good Brothers and Super7. Sounds good on paper, but then how do we explain countless "preorders" selling out? Open preorders don’t sell out because they don’t go into production until after the preorder window closes. This is Super7’s model. NECA recently did it with the TMNT sewer and accessory set. Mattel did it last year with Cody and Paul. |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Sept 7, 2023 18:55:40 GMT -5
10 Undertaker ultimates and I'm in
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Post by SteveHulk on Sept 7, 2023 20:40:14 GMT -5
Sounds good on paper, but then how do we explain countless "preorders" selling out? Open preorders don’t sell out because they don’t go into production until after the preorder window closes. This is Super7’s model. NECA recently did it with the TMNT sewer and accessory set. Mattel did it last year with Cody and Paul. ...how come Paul "sold out" though and people got refunds? |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 7, 2023 20:57:48 GMT -5
Open preorders don’t sell out because they don’t go into production until after the preorder window closes. This is Super7’s model. NECA recently did it with the TMNT sewer and accessory set. Mattel did it last year with Cody and Paul. ...how come Paul "sold out" though and people got refunds? IDK. WWE shop recently got some inventory so definitely didn’t sell out. |
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