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Post by misterfigi on Jul 7, 2024 2:12:41 GMT -5
I think he was saying britishbrickfan mostly comes to threads to trash the figures or the companies or both. It definitely happens a lot but not to the level where he is a troll like Roy Alrumblay AKA misterfigi aka Moffit aka other names. I responded to BBF because the repaints were worth discussing (the jab at Mitch was unnecessary and needs to stop). I know you are trying to sound smart but I assure you this is my only account and I am none of those other people. Being a troll by pointing out someone's sleazy used car salesman tactics? I don't think so, fella. If you look I also say a lot of positive stuff and even give information other people do not know. |
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Post by britishbrickfan on Jul 7, 2024 3:02:29 GMT -5
I'm not here to troll, just to call out stuff as I see it, from companies producing products which have a premium price tag, and discount level production quality
now, in fairness to the upgrades of Quebecers and Mero, the quality is improving. it's a shame it's taken so long, but apart from the questionable face sculpts, the Quebecers are actually decent looking figures. Mero's face looks like he's higher than RVD has ever been, but again - plastic quality looks good, poses/shine are there, the G+G line is getting better
though I have concerns about the prices, they're still not worth $40 a piece IMO, but it's clear that the quality is improving, I just feel sorry for those who bought the likes of Godwinns and MOM when they could have been made using this new factory, and actually looked like Hasbro figures
and to Chair Shot's point - yes, no-one is forcing anyone to buy repaints, but you can't deny that G+G took the proverbial in increasing the price for repainting Mabel (and then sticking him in a plastic bag because the cards broke)
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Post by aaron34 on Jul 7, 2024 4:51:44 GMT -5
I'm not here to troll, just to call out stuff as I see it, from companies producing products which have a premium price tag, and discount level production quality now, in fairness to the upgrades of Quebecers and Mero, the quality is improving. it's a shame it's taken so long, but apart from the questionable face sculpts, the Quebecers are actually decent looking figures. Mero's face looks like he's higher than RVD has ever been, but again - plastic quality looks good, poses/shine are there, the G+G line is getting better though I have concerns about the prices, they're still not worth $40 a piece IMO, but it's clear that the quality is improving, I just feel sorry for those who bought the likes of Godwinns and MOM when they could have been made using this new factory, and actually looked like Hasbro figures and to Chair Shot's point - yes, no-one is forcing anyone to buy repaints, but you can't deny that G+G took the proverbial in increasing the price for repainting Mabel (and then sticking him in a plastic bag because the cards broke) Lot’s of people are very happy with their figures from G&G, so you don’t need to feel sorry for them. You are a troll. Nothing but negative comments from someone who has never even bought one of the figures. Go troll somewhere else. |
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jul 7, 2024 7:48:01 GMT -5
I think he was saying britishbrickfan mostly comes to threads to trash the figures or the companies or both. It definitely happens a lot but not to the level where he is a troll like Roy Alrumblay AKA misterfigi aka Moffit aka other names. I responded to BBF because the repaints were worth discussing (the jab at Mitch was unnecessary and needs to stop). I know you are trying to sound smart but I assure you this is my only account and I am none of those other people. Being a troll by pointing out someone's sleazy used car salesman tactics? I don't think so, fella. If you look I also say a lot of positive stuff and even give information other people do not know. What a strange coincidence that you registered immediately after Moffit/Roy had some of his posts removed yet again. And also what a strange coincidence that you made an account mostly to post negative things in the Heels and Faces thread. Even stranger is the angry way in which you are responding towards me instead of befuddlement or laughter. I wouldn’t put it past a troll to post a few normal comments and respond to himself all to try and blend in. Guess we will see what other behaviors you have that match up. As long as no lines are crossed then there shouldn’t be any problem and you can gleefully prove me wrong. |
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Post by kojikanemoto on Jul 7, 2024 9:58:49 GMT -5
I'm not here to troll, just to call out stuff as I see it, from companies producing products which have a premium price tag, and discount level production quality now, in fairness to the upgrades of Quebecers and Mero, the quality is improving. it's a shame it's taken so long, but apart from the questionable face sculpts, the Quebecers are actually decent looking figures. Mero's face looks like he's higher than RVD has ever been, but again - plastic quality looks good, poses/shine are there, the G+G line is getting better though I have concerns about the prices, they're still not worth $40 a piece IMO, but it's clear that the quality is improving, I just feel sorry for those who bought the likes of Godwinns and MOM when they could have been made using this new factory, and actually looked like Hasbro figures and to Chair Shot's point - yes, no-one is forcing anyone to buy repaints, but you can't deny that G+G took the proverbial in increasing the price for repainting Mabel (and then sticking him in a plastic bag because the cards broke) What world are you living in? $40 is not a “premium” price in 2024. |
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Post by misterfigi on Jul 7, 2024 11:07:32 GMT -5
I know you are trying to sound smart but I assure you this is my only account and I am none of those other people. Being a troll by pointing out someone's sleazy used car salesman tactics? I don't think so, fella. If you look I also say a lot of positive stuff and even give information other people do not know. What a strange coincidence that you registered immediately after Moffit/Roy had some of his posts removed yet again. And also what a strange coincidence that you made an account mostly to post negative things in the Heels and Faces thread. Even stranger is the angry way in which you are responding towards me instead of befuddlement or laughter. I wouldn’t put it past a troll to post a few normal comments and respond to himself all to try and blend in. Guess we will see what other behaviors you have that match up. As long as no lines are crossed then there shouldn’t be any problem and you can gleefully prove me wrong. You have already proven the type of person you are. No part of me feels the need to prove anything to you. There is a day from when I create an account to when I am accepted so I assume there is some process that is checked to make sure I am not just someone making a dupe account.
The funny thing is after I read this unwarranted attack on me because I post "negative things" in that thread (I also posted positive things in that thread but that doesn't fit with your narrative) is when I go and read that thread the first thing I read is a negative post about the Heels and Faces figures... BY YOU. You are making negative comments in the Heels and Faces thread. You are attacking new members for whatever reason. If these actions of someone posting on here for 10 years are indications of where the lines are drawn than I am not worried about crossing any.
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Post by britishbrickfan on Jul 7, 2024 11:50:03 GMT -5
What world are you living in? $40 is not a “premium” price in 2024. an Ultimate figure is $39.99
a pack of 4 Mattel Retros (each with action) is $60
$40 for a 4.5" figure with no action is definitely a "premium" price so if you're charging that, its not unrealistic for people to expect a premium quality product?
Quebecers are good looking figures, but I'd say charging $25-30 would be a more realistic price considering they're not going to become collectors items down the line, their value is not going to rise like we saw with Hasbros and Retros (though all markets saw collector prices soar to unexpected levels due to Covid) and the secondary market is definitely down from where it was 3 years ago |
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Post by kojikanemoto on Jul 7, 2024 11:54:27 GMT -5
What world are you living in? $40 is not a “premium” price in 2024. an Ultimate figure is $39.99
a pack of 4 Mattel Retros (each with action) is $60
$40 for a 4.5" figure with no action is definitely a "premium" price so if you're charging that, its not unrealistic for people to expect a premium quality product?
Quebecers are good looking figures, but I'd say charging $25-30 would be a more realistic price considering they're not going to become collectors items down the line, their value is not going to rise like we saw with Hasbros and Retros (though all markets saw collector prices soar to unexpected levels due to Covid) and the secondary market is definitely down from where it was 3 years ago You have NO idea what something should be priced at. And this post shows it. |
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Post by britishbrickfan on Jul 7, 2024 12:13:49 GMT -5
You have NO idea what something should be priced at. And this post shows it. I'm a consumer, and this is a market where manufacturers like Epic and FC are producing figures for $10 less (and they're obviously making a profit at that price point) then charging the same as an Ultimate for a figure which clearly isn't on the same production quality is not realistic.
Mattel are obviously struggling to continue the line, ChairShot has called this out in the Mattel thread, and the format is basically surviving on indy producers, but if the prices are unrealistic, consumers WILL walk away. this is already a small market as is, manufacturers need to consider their long-term plans. who is going to still be in this business in 3 years time if they're constantly raising prices, but not raising the quality?
all of these figures are made in China, because it's cheaper than domestic production. no-one is oblivious to this, cheap production + premium prices = healthy profit. especially when companies are still leveraging the preorder grift to sell them. |
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Post by kojikanemoto on Jul 7, 2024 13:16:41 GMT -5
You have NO idea what something should be priced at. And this post shows it. I'm a consumer, and this is a market where manufacturers like Epic and FC are producing figures for $10 less (and they're obviously making a profit at that price point) then charging the same as an Ultimate for a figure which clearly isn't on the same production quality is not realistic.
Mattel are obviously struggling to continue the line, ChairShot has called this out in the Mattel thread, and the format is basically surviving on indy producers, but if the prices are unrealistic, consumers WILL walk away. this is already a small market as is, manufacturers need to consider their long-term plans. who is going to still be in this business in 3 years time if they're constantly raising prices, but not raising the quality?
all of these figures are made in China, because it's cheaper than domestic production. no-one is oblivious to this, cheap production + premium prices = healthy profit. especially when companies are still leveraging the preorder grift to sell them. They’re all around $40. G&G prices include shipping so they’d actually be CHEAPER than FC Toys and Epic. You may want to pay $20 a figure but that is not realistic for a small company. You may want to get a new hobby |
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Post by mrh on Jul 7, 2024 20:02:17 GMT -5
I love (most) of you -- but can we get back to talking about the figures only? And maybe the moderators can do a better job banning people who are just on here to hate?
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Jul 8, 2024 7:00:29 GMT -5
You have NO idea what something should be priced at. And this post shows it. I'm a consumer, and this is a market where manufacturers like Epic and FC are producing figures for $10 less (and they're obviously making a profit at that price point) then charging the same as an Ultimate for a figure which clearly isn't on the same production quality is not realistic. Mattel are obviously struggling to continue the line, ChairShot has called this out in the Mattel thread, and the format is basically surviving on indy producers, but if the prices are unrealistic, consumers WILL walk away. this is already a small market as is, manufacturers need to consider their long-term plans. who is going to still be in this business in 3 years time if they're constantly raising prices, but not raising the quality? all of these figures are made in China, because it's cheaper than domestic production. no-one is oblivious to this, cheap production + premium prices = healthy profit. especially when companies are still leveraging the preorder grift to sell them. Yes you're a consumer, but if you'd think for 5 seconds you'd realise that (retro) wrestling figures are a niche product. You CAN'T compare these small companies - focusing on retro wrestling figures - to a mega corporation like Mattel that has MANY toylines of which a very small part is wrestling related. Why don't you release a retro line for like $15 a figure (still enough profit, following your logic). Proof that you're right and those small companies just make profit at the expense of a few collectors, crazy enough to buy those "premium" prices... I can tell you right now: you CAN'T! It's simple; if you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it! However stop the hatred for these small companies! They have more costs than to just pay the Chinese factory: there's also the license of the wrestler, the designer, the sculptor, shipping costs, import taxes, ... So STOP MOANING: don't like it, don't buy it, just move on. |
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Post by misterfigi on Jul 8, 2024 7:25:22 GMT -5
I'm a consumer, and this is a market where manufacturers like Epic and FC are producing figures for $10 less (and they're obviously making a profit at that price point) then charging the same as an Ultimate for a figure which clearly isn't on the same production quality is not realistic. Mattel are obviously struggling to continue the line, ChairShot has called this out in the Mattel thread, and the format is basically surviving on indy producers, but if the prices are unrealistic, consumers WILL walk away. this is already a small market as is, manufacturers need to consider their long-term plans. who is going to still be in this business in 3 years time if they're constantly raising prices, but not raising the quality? all of these figures are made in China, because it's cheaper than domestic production. no-one is oblivious to this, cheap production + premium prices = healthy profit. especially when companies are still leveraging the preorder grift to sell them. Yes you're a consumer, but if you'd think for 5 seconds you'd realise that (retro) wrestling figures are a niche product. You CAN'T compare these small companies - focusing on retro wrestling figures - to a mega corporation like Mattel that has MANY toylines of which a very small part is wrestling related. Why don't you release a retro line for like $15 a figure (still enough profit, following your logic). Proof that you're right and those small companies just make profit at the expense of a few collectors, crazy enough to buy those "premium" prices... I can tell you right now: you CAN'T! It's simple; if you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it! However stop the hatred for these small companies! They have more costs than to just pay the Chinese factory: there's also the license of the wrestler, the designer, the sculptor, shipping costs, import taxes, ... So STOP MOANING: don't like it, don't buy it, just move on. I think this is the bottom line. If the cost is more than you would pay do not buy it. It is easy enough. Aside from that whether they are making a profit or not on the figures the fact is that enough people are seemingly willing to pay the $50 so it doesn't matter either way. If there is a figure I think looks worth the high price point and buy it I will be happy as long as it does not fall apart on me as soon as I take it out of the package (looking at you GI Joe Classified...). |
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Post by cheville2001 on Jul 10, 2024 9:02:06 GMT -5
What world are you living in? $40 is not a “premium” price in 2024. an Ultimate figure is $39.99
a pack of 4 Mattel Retros (each with action) is $60
$40 for a 4.5" figure with no action is definitely a "premium" price so if you're charging that, its not unrealistic for people to expect a premium quality product?
Quebecers are good looking figures, but I'd say charging $25-30 would be a more realistic price considering they're not going to become collectors items down the line, their value is not going to rise like we saw with Hasbros and Retros (though all markets saw collector prices soar to unexpected levels due to Covid) and the secondary market is definitely down from where it was 3 years ago It's what's made me hold back buying them, even though I like them now I've seen the reviews online. He's really upped his game.... |
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Post by casanova on Jul 10, 2024 14:36:09 GMT -5
Got the new MOM, Quebecers and regular Marc Mero the other day.
I have nothing negative to report. If any the gold color on MOM is looking a little watered down and the skin color of Mero could habe been more tan. But these do not affect the overall satisfaction I get out if these figures. As much as I have criticized Mitch before I have to say that these recent figures are a true continuation of the original Hasbro line. Character choice and sculpting are on point and the quality is finally there (still room for improvement though). Already went to order the two other Meros and King Mable. Still need to order the Rougeaus and will also order the BB&Diana 2-pack aswell as the other preorders.
Add the recent Epic Toys figures and you have a fantastic lineup and an incredible continuation of the original line. Couldn’t be happier.
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Post by misterfigi on Jul 11, 2024 2:25:49 GMT -5
Got the new MOM, Quebecers and regular Marc Mero the other day. I have nothing negative to report. If any the gold color on MOM is looking a little watered down and the skin color of Mero could habe been more tan. But these do not affect the overall satisfaction I get out if these figures. As much as I have criticized Mitch before I have to say that these recent figures are a true continuation of the original Hasbro line. Character choice and sculpting are on point and the quality is finally there (still room for improvement though). Already went to order the two other Meros and King Mable. Still need to order the Rougeaus and will also order the BB&Diana 2-pack aswell as the other preorders. Add the recent Epic Toys figures and you have a fantastic lineup and an incredible continuation of the original line. Couldn’t be happier. The only complaints I have about those figures are that I wish Mable was taller (I understand why he isn't) and I wish there was a Johnny Polo to go with the Quebecers. |
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Post by mrh on Jul 13, 2024 23:52:04 GMT -5
Just want to say I am happy for Mitch. Yes, he might have some carny tactics, but he does feel like just a relatively decent guy with a dream -- and that counts for a lot in my book.
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Post by Cammi Oh on Jul 14, 2024 7:29:05 GMT -5
So, I was a fan of the 1st set of Zombie (Dino Bravo, specifically) as it seemed the most like a Hasbro figure. However, I just got the Quebecois 2 pack and it IS HASBRO style. I have NOT opened them but the sculpt, size, shininess of the figures is SPOT ON!
Now, if he'd make more figures that I'm interested in.
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Post by kiphouse on Jul 14, 2024 7:41:22 GMT -5
Mitch isnt nearly as carny as he started out. Zombie took that ball and ran away with it. Mitch doing in stock drops and not pressing the dreaded fomo nonsense is great. One thing i understand isnt an issue for americans is him dropping different figs with a short time in between. For canadians though we have to pay high shipping for basically everything nowadays, so it'd be nice to be able to bundle everything at once
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Post by TheRockers on Jul 14, 2024 7:43:12 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of the MOM set. They look great on display with Hasbros. Its really cool to put together this orange card set all these years later.
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