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Post by hitmancmedge on Apr 2, 2024 11:31:27 GMT -5
Wednesday is the PERFECT time to bring Perry back to AEW. Feed off Punk's opinions, TK. Mega heel schitck. Do it. I don’t know, I feel like he comes off like a major dweeb in that Punk story. I don’t think that translates to Mega heel heat.
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 2, 2024 11:52:10 GMT -5
Like outside a small small window of people that enjoy booing the heels and cheering the babyfaces, given most the AEW fan base is admittedly internet smart fans, most aren’t going to give a damn about Jack Perry as a heel. He may get some cheers given how a big chunk of AEW fans act like Punk is some kind of weird super villain who tried to end AEW. But as far as a major heel? Not likely unless he can feed off better heels like Christian or The Bucks.
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Post by kinnikuman on Apr 2, 2024 14:12:11 GMT -5
Wednesday is the PERFECT time to bring Perry back to AEW. Feed off Punk's opinions, TK. Mega heel schitck. Do it. I don’t know, I feel like he comes off like a major dweeb in that Punk story. I don’t think that translates to Mega heel heat. Have a skit in a rental car agency, have him talk about glass, have him talk about Phil without saying his name, work off of everything Punk said in his interview. It'd work.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Apr 3, 2024 8:52:02 GMT -5
AEW should not mention or reference anything CM Punk said or anything about him. AEW needs to distance and differentiate itself from WWE as much as possible.
It comes off as real desperate and lazy to reference other companies and people who don’t work there for a cheap shock pop.
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Post by kinnikuman on Apr 3, 2024 11:16:19 GMT -5
AEW should not mention or reference anything CM Punk said or anything about him. AEW needs to distance and differentiate itself from WWE as much as possible. It comes off as real desperate and lazy to reference other companies and people who don’t work there for a cheap shock pop. True. Punk will bury himself soon enough over there.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Apr 3, 2024 12:22:51 GMT -5
AEW should not mention or reference anything CM Punk said or anything about him. AEW needs to distance and differentiate itself from WWE as much as possible. It comes off as real desperate and lazy to reference other companies and people who don’t work there for a cheap shock pop. True. Punk will bury himself soon enough over there. Not certain Buried Alive matches vibe too well in today's age. Much less involving a person not claiming undead powers.
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Post by bWo on Apr 3, 2024 17:04:28 GMT -5
Just watched the interview. First and foremost I think Punk is a bit of a fraud. He acts A LOT tougher than he is. The smugness in his voice and the expressions on his face as he talks about "choking" a 105 pound Jack Perry is beyond pathetic. Had Luchasaurus been standing there with Perry it's a safe bet CM Punk's approach is quite a bit different. He plays it up like people are wrong thinking he's a backstage maniac who goes around attacking people, yet plays it up like he could kick the shet out of anyone at any time. How many times did he say, "you won't like the way I handle it?" He had to stop himself from, "double legging Hangman and killing him." Who does he think he's kidding with this tough guy talk? If he was as tough as he thinks he would have been RAINING DOWN HELL in WWE 10 years ago......... Except he didn't because we all know THAT locker room would have beat the ever living feck out of him while Vince took a shet on him.
Beyond his fantasy tough guy routine it's hard to disagree with him. Tony Khan has no idea how to run a company. He's not a boss, he's a fan. He's an owner without a spine. These guys could have made a ton of money and ran a great program if Tony knew how to be an authority figure. If the Bucks refused to work with Punk, FIRE THEM. It's Tony's company and he lets the employees dictate the business model. WTF? He should have sat them down in a room and said here is the plan to make MY COMPANY money. If you don't want to be apart of the plan than you won't be apart of MY COMPANY. But Tony Khan is completely incapable of doing that. He's afraid of offending the people whose salaries he pays. He doesn't seem to understand that they work for him, not the other way around.
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Post by bWo on Apr 3, 2024 17:13:53 GMT -5
I don’t know, I feel like he comes off like a major dweeb in that Punk story. I don’t think that translates to Mega heel heat. Have a skit in a rental car agency, have him talk about glass, have him talk about Phil without saying his name, work off of everything Punk said in his interview. It'd work. How "WWE" of you.................
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Post by switchbladeera on Apr 3, 2024 17:42:51 GMT -5
I don't think much of Tony as a boss either, I wouldn't work for him...
But, I do also see the difficulty in forcing the Bucks to work that program or be fired, because the optics of losing more EVP's to WWE would be terrible for the company pretty much regardless of why it happened. That's the nature of the pro-wwe media machine (the helwanis etc).
So I get that being something where they could call your bluff and TK would be screwed. But obviously there were issues for it to get to that point that someone more skilled in management could have stopped long before it got to that point.
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Post by kinnikuman on Apr 3, 2024 17:50:17 GMT -5
True. Punk will bury himself soon enough over there. Not certain Buried Alive matches vibe too well in today's age. Much less involving a person not claiming undead powers. REAL DIRT ... cry me a river.
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Post by kinnikuman on Apr 3, 2024 17:50:47 GMT -5
Have a skit in a rental car agency, have him talk about glass, have him talk about Phil without saying his name, work off of everything Punk said in his interview. It'd work. How "WWE" of you................. I know, right? I felt dirty just typing it.
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Post by kinnikuman on Apr 3, 2024 17:52:51 GMT -5
Just watched the interview. First and foremost I think Punk is a bit of a fraud. he acts A LOT tougher than he is. The smugness in his voice and the expressions on his face as he talks about "choking" a 105 pound Jack Perry is beyond pathetic. Had Luchasaurus been standing there with Perry it's a safe bet CM Punk's approach is quite a bit different. He plays it up like people are wrong thinking he's a backstage maniac who goes around attacking people, yet plays it up like he could kick the shet out out of anyone at any time. How many times did he say, "you won't like the way I handle it?" He had to stop himself from, "double legging Hangman and killing him." Who does he think he's kidding with this tough guy talk? If he was as tough as he thinks he would have been RAINING DOWN HELL in WWE 10 years ago......... Except he didn't because we all know THAT locker room would have beat the ever living feck out of him while Vince took a shet on him. Beyond his fantasy tough guy routine it's hard to disagree with him. Tony Khan has no idea how to run a company. He's not a boss, he's a fan. He's an owner without a spine. These guys could have made a ton of money and ran a great program if Tony knew how to be an authority figure. If the Bucks refused to work with Punk, FIRE THEM. It's Tony's company and he lets the employees dictate the business model. WTF? He should have sat them down in a room and said here is the plan to make MY COMPANY money. If you don't want to be apart of the plan than you won't be apart of MY COMPANY. But Tony Khan is completely incapable of doing that. He's afraid of offending the people whose salaries he pays. He doesn't seem to understand that they work for him, not the other way around. Yeah, he is all talk for sure. He got his ass handed to him in UFC and what little training he actually does have will not help him much in a fight with fellow wrestlers. Cody released an interview today backing up AEW and basically said, without saying it, that Punk is full of it.
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Post by bWo on Apr 3, 2024 19:02:17 GMT -5
I don't think much of Tony as a boss either, I wouldn't work for him... But, I do also see the difficulty in forcing the Bucks to work that program or be fired, because the optics of losing more EVP's to WWE would be terrible for the company pretty much regardless of why it happened. That's the nature of the pro-wwe media machine (the helwanis etc). So I get that being something where they could call your bluff and TK would be screwed. But obviously there were issues for it to get to that point that someone more skilled in management could have stopped long before it got to that point. The fact that they are "EVP's" means nothing though because that would translate into less than nothing in WWE. They are only "EVP's" in their minds and Tony's. They are nothing more than wrestlers outside of this company. I also don't think The Bucks would draw a dime in WWE. If they were ever going to be relevant players in The E they would have already been there years ago, especially with NXT being what it was years before AEW was even a thing. We've seen Punk's impact since his return to WWE. It's as safe a bet as there is to assume that The Bucks wouldn't be anywhere near where he is in popularity, the pecking order, or merch sales. This was the biggest "angle" the company was ever going to have that would have generated tons of money and it didn't happen because the "EVP's" didn't want to do what was best for business. If you're the owner, that's NOT the management team you want in place. Losing people to the competition because they don't want to do what's best for your company isn't a loss.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 3, 2024 19:09:02 GMT -5
Adam, it’s money. That’s why. And that’s okay lol
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 3, 2024 23:18:29 GMT -5
I definitely understand why a lot of AEWs don’t like Punk right now. Definitely understand why Tony probably doesn’t like him right now. But holy sh** needing everyone in the company to publicly talk about how great it is and the multiple references to Punk made by the Bucks is cringey as hell. It’s at the point where it feels like Punk is still the biggest talking point of the company. Even before the interview.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Apr 4, 2024 6:33:00 GMT -5
I definitely understand why a lot of AEWs don’t like Punk right now. Definitely understand why Tony probably doesn’t like him right now. But holy sh** needing everyone in the company to publicly talk about how great it is and the multiple references to Punk made by the Bucks is cringey as hell. It’s at the point where it feels like Punk is still the biggest talking point of the company. Even before the interview. It’s a difficult one. I can understand people’s urge to defend the kid paying their bills, but it’s counterproductive. CM Punk said it’s not a real business and their response is “let’s immediately prove him right!” The most damning part is that they even devoted time on the TV show to doing that. Edge should go back to using the Downward Spiral as his finisher, in reference to how well his current run is going. After the new signings flopped and then the humiliation from Punk that they’ve then made worse for themselves, AEW badly needs something positive to happen. At the very least, they need MJF back asap.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Apr 4, 2024 7:05:26 GMT -5
Dirt sheets need AEW in diSArrAy too much for the company to catch its breath, unfortunately. I guarantee these stories draw more engagement from feuding factions and hopeless Stans and Marys than anything positive and/or factual. Other fanbases aren't as prevalent or no longer have those vocal competing viewpoints.
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Post by switchbladeera on Apr 4, 2024 13:24:29 GMT -5
It's always obvious when aew does good things, because suddenly the negatives become amplified by certain parties. Has been the case the whole five years.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Apr 5, 2024 11:24:56 GMT -5
WrestleDream 2023 on Blu-ray and ROH SuperCard of Honor 2023 DVD are now available via PWT
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Apr 5, 2024 15:42:49 GMT -5
With the Tate twins situation and others in the past it looks like the travel team in AEW is having issues.
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