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Post by Hacker on Jan 19, 2024 19:29:48 GMT -5
I have the WCT blue cage and the cage that looks like fencing and neither of them fit on the New Gen ring or the Ultimate rings that have and will soon be coming out. What are you using for a cage for this ring? Hoping for a Mattel exclusive cage set, but until then, what else is out there that fits? Anything?
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jan 19, 2024 19:37:20 GMT -5
Nothing
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Post by Warriah' on Jan 20, 2024 5:57:07 GMT -5
It was so unbelievably dumb for mattel to have done a second stage as a crowd fund rather than a cage and figures to accommodate classic cage matches.
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Post by wholefnshow420 on Jan 20, 2024 6:29:14 GMT -5
The jakks real scale cage it basically fits perfectly on the new gen ring
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Post by Hacker on Jan 20, 2024 9:14:55 GMT -5
It was so unbelievably dumb for mattel to have done a second stage as a crowd fund rather than a cage and figures to accommodate classic cage matches. It would be cool to crowd fund a set with both the classic WWF blue cage and the more modern cage together. Along with some ultimate figures. I'd back that in a second. |
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Post by coldblooded on Jan 20, 2024 9:25:59 GMT -5
Not a got damn thing because they haven't released it and won't because they want to continue to shove more useless rings with figs we want.
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Post by Da Handsome 1 on Jan 20, 2024 9:49:24 GMT -5
We definitely need big blue for the new Gen ring & throw in an UE to push sales.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jan 20, 2024 10:01:02 GMT -5
I need a blue cage and a Bundy figure so I can have Hulkster posed on the cage ripping his shirt.
But I also watched WrestleMania 2 last night
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Jan 20, 2024 10:38:59 GMT -5
Not a got damn thing because they haven't released it and won't because they want to continue to shove more useless rings with figs we want. ⬆️ |
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Post by kirk815 on Jan 20, 2024 11:04:29 GMT -5
Not a got damn thing because they haven't released it and won't because they want to continue to shove more useless rings with figs we want. I find the Mattel logic funny that they need to release more rings before ring accessories so they will have a larger base of collectors to buy the accessories. Sure, you might have some new people jump in and buy a ring that they previously didn't buy (new collectors or old collectors that passed on previous rings for whatever reason). I wouldn't be surprised though if a large majority of collectors are buying each/every ring so I really don't see how that is going to increase sales substantially for accessories if you are still working with the same hardcore collector fan base. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jan 20, 2024 11:26:32 GMT -5
Not a got damn thing because they haven't released it and won't because they want to continue to shove more useless rings with figs we want. The way Steve has explained it makes sense tho. They need more ultimate scale rings sold to justify making accessories for it. There were, what, 8K New Gen rings sold? Most probably went into storage cuz people mainly wanted the figs. And those who display em, not everyone is gonna want a cage. So that’s the strategy of getting out the Raw and Nitro rings. |
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Post by coldblooded on Jan 20, 2024 11:29:03 GMT -5
Not a got damn thing because they haven't released it and won't because they want to continue to shove more useless rings with figs we want. I find the Mattel logic funny that they need to release more rings before ring accessories so they will have a larger base of collectors to buy the accessories. Sure, you might have some new people jump in and buy a ring that they previously didn't buy (new collectors or old collectors that passed on previous rings for whatever reason). I wouldn't be surprised though if a large majority of collectors are buying each/every ring so I really don't see how that is going to increase sales substantially for accessories if you are still working with the same hardcore collector fan base. Another thing So you got a blue new gen ring. Black raw ring And upcoming nitro ring. A blue cage is not going to look right on a raw ring or nitro ring. Why not release a blue steel cage already? Whoever bought the new gen set is patiently waiting. You gonna wait for more rings to sell for a blue steel cage that does not match the newer rings? Kind of stupid right? The window for a blue steel cage is gone, because what's the point? Unless they plan on doing multiple steel cages in 1 go which I highly doubt. The install base for the new gen set is already made fulfill those peoples needs already. |
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Post by coldblooded on Jan 20, 2024 11:29:46 GMT -5
Not a got damn thing because they haven't released it and won't because they want to continue to shove more useless rings with figs we want. The way Steve has explained it makes sense tho. They need more ultimate scale rings sold to justify making accessories for it. There were, what, 8K New Gen rings sold? Most probably went into storage cuz people mainly wanted the figs. And those who display em, not everyone is gonna want a cage. So that’s the strategy of getting out the Raw and Nitro rings. It makes less sense if you look at my post above this one. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jan 20, 2024 11:48:19 GMT -5
The way Steve has explained it makes sense tho. They need more ultimate scale rings sold to justify making accessories for it. There were, what, 8K New Gen rings sold? Most probably went into storage cuz people mainly wanted the figs. And those who display em, not everyone is gonna want a cage. So that’s the strategy of getting out the Raw and Nitro rings. It makes less sense if you look at my post above this one. Blue bars made it into the Attitude Era. Plus they could easily do a 1/2 production run of blue bars and 1/2 black using the same tooling. |
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Post by J-MANN on Jan 20, 2024 11:48:40 GMT -5
I don’t care how many rings are or aren’t out there, this will be the third ring and we have no accessories for any of them. They could give us SOMETHING.
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Post by coldblooded on Jan 20, 2024 12:25:38 GMT -5
It makes less sense if you look at my post above this one. Blue bars made it into the Attitude Era. Plus they could easily do a 1/2 production run of blue bars and 1/2 black using the same tooling. Thats true and fair. But now they are doing a nitro ring. Instead of releasing a cage for the 2 sets of rings already released that it would make sense for. What if someone has no ring and they get a nitro ring. What then? Now they get a blue steel cage to go with there lonely nitro ring that does not go with it? That's pretty dumb. It should have already been released. Maybe if it was in the works already, those other rings would have sold more? None of us will ever know that. What I do know, is I would have a steel cage for my ring if they would make the damn thing already. But I also know, they will not release a standalone cage accessory. They will release another ring, and instead of a figure it will be a blue steel cage. Or black for that matter. Either way we all will have to buy another ring to get a cage. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jan 20, 2024 12:45:21 GMT -5
Blue bars made it into the Attitude Era. Plus they could easily do a 1/2 production run of blue bars and 1/2 black using the same tooling. Thats true and fair. But now they are doing a nitro ring. Instead of releasing a cage for the 2 sets of rings already released that it would make sense for. What if someone has no ring and they get a nitro ring. What then? Now they get a blue steel cage to go with there lonely nitro ring that does not go with it? That's pretty dumb. It should have already been released. Maybe if it was in the works already, those other rings would have sold more? None of us will ever know that. What I do know, is I would have a steel cage for my ring if they would make the damn thing already. But I also know, they will not release a standalone cage accessory. They will release another ring, and instead of a figure it will be a blue steel cage. Or black for that matter. Either way we all will have to buy another ring to get a cage. My assumption is HIAC is gonna be their first cage. It spans every era from New Gen through today. And maybe not 1:1 but WCW also had their versions of the structure too. |
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Post by Hacker on Jan 20, 2024 12:49:09 GMT -5
Thats true and fair. But now they are doing a nitro ring. Instead of releasing a cage for the 2 sets of rings already released that it would make sense for. What if someone has no ring and they get a nitro ring. What then? Now they get a blue steel cage to go with there lonely nitro ring that does not go with it? That's pretty dumb. It should have already been released. Maybe if it was in the works already, those other rings would have sold more? None of us will ever know that. What I do know, is I would have a steel cage for my ring if they would make the damn thing already. But I also know, they will not release a standalone cage accessory. They will release another ring, and instead of a figure it will be a blue steel cage. Or black for that matter. Either way we all will have to buy another ring to get a cage. My assumption is HIAC is gonna be their first cage. It spans every era from New Gen through today. And maybe not 1:1 but WCW also had their versions of the structure too. Old style HIAC or the newer red look? 🤔 I'm in for that too. |
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Post by coldblooded on Jan 20, 2024 12:55:12 GMT -5
Thats true and fair. But now they are doing a nitro ring. Instead of releasing a cage for the 2 sets of rings already released that it would make sense for. What if someone has no ring and they get a nitro ring. What then? Now they get a blue steel cage to go with there lonely nitro ring that does not go with it? That's pretty dumb. It should have already been released. Maybe if it was in the works already, those other rings would have sold more? None of us will ever know that. What I do know, is I would have a steel cage for my ring if they would make the damn thing already. But I also know, they will not release a standalone cage accessory. They will release another ring, and instead of a figure it will be a blue steel cage. Or black for that matter. Either way we all will have to buy another ring to get a cage. My assumption is HIAC is gonna be their first cage. It spans every era from New Gen through today. And maybe not 1:1 but WCW also had their versions of the structure too. That would be cool, but they won't release on its own, like mentioned earlier it will be packaged with yet another ring. So the argument that they need more rings out there, is downright stupid. Id be SHOCKED if they did release on its own. At the end of the day, we don't know why Mattel does the things they do. Releasing a raw is war ring with no entrance stage, and trying to do a nitro stage with no nitro ring. That will forever be one of the dumbest decisions they've made, not to mention threatening if nitro isn't funded the raw stage would be put on back burner. As if this isn't a WWE first company with WCW assets. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jan 20, 2024 13:26:52 GMT -5
My assumption is HIAC is gonna be their first cage. It spans every era from New Gen through today. And maybe not 1:1 but WCW also had their versions of the structure too. That would be cool, but they won't release on its own, like mentioned earlier it will be packaged with yet another ring. So the argument that they need more rings out there, is downright stupid. Id be SHOCKED if they did release on its own. At the end of the day, we don't know why Mattel does the things they do. Releasing a raw is war ring with no entrance stage, and trying to do a nitro stage with no nitro ring. That will forever be one of the dumbest decisions they've made, not to mention threatening if nitro isn't funded the raw stage would be put on back burner. As if this isn't a WWE first company with WCW assets. IDK. They seemed to have made their road map pretty clear. We knew we were getting a Nitro ring. We knew there was a Monday Night Wars line coming. They made it clear that the Raw entrance would be even more than Nitro so Nitro needed to be done first so assets from that stage can be reused to bring down the cost of Raw. In about 3 years we woulda had the Raw and Nitro stages and rings. |
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