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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 24, 2024 5:15:37 GMT -5
The longevity of his career is amazing, but he never did it for me. Never bought him as a main eventer at all. Nothing wrong with being a decent mid carder at all, but no way was he main event material. He was decent in the ring, I struggle to think of one amazing match he actually had. Most of the time came off like an imitation of Mr. Perfect and HBK. Yet he was able to have passable and decent matches with pretty much anyone. Nothing ever blew me away, but he was never boring for me eitherm Still, the fact he was able to stay as long as he did does tell you he had something. He just never clicked with me the way he did with other people. He didn't have many "amazing" matches because he wasn't booked to have any - 20 years in WWE and never had a singles match at WrestleMania... He had some fantastic 1-1 matches like IC title matches with Rollins (several on Raw and PPV's), Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, CM Punk, John Cena, Luke Harper, etc. The problem is the audience couldn't buy into him because we knew there was a near 100% chance he wasn't going to win any big match. He got a singles match at WM37 with Otis but he really deserved a few more. |
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jan 24, 2024 10:36:46 GMT -5
He was one of my favourite wrestlers between 2011-2013, it’s sad he’s gone but there was very little to care for. I don’t mind not seeing him back in WWE again but hope he can become a bigger star elsewhere.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 24, 2024 15:26:39 GMT -5
He was one of my favourite wrestlers between 2011-2013, it’s sad he’s gone but there was very little to care for. I don’t mind not seeing him back in WWE again but hope he can become a bigger star elsewhere. He's got potential in TNA |
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Post by fabulous1971 on Jan 25, 2024 9:39:47 GMT -5
I don't think he'll be back for anything significant, maybe a Rumble appearance in a couple of years. I liked Dolph, dumb name, but he was entertaining. I do think he got lazy in the later part of his run, not that he had anything to be charged up about. Also he needed to stop being "HBK Light". It did no favors cosplaying as Shawn.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 25, 2024 12:21:45 GMT -5
Yeah he’ll be back at least for a Rumble at some point, I would expect. He’s alright in a midcard role and has a few standout matches and moments in his career. Great at bumping, which is good for a highlight reel, but usually awful at selling and pacing, which is bad for trying to crack the main event scene.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 28, 2024 5:58:14 GMT -5
Yeah he’ll be back at least for a Rumble at some point, I would expect. He’s alright in a midcard role and has a few standout matches and moments in his career. Great at bumping, which is good for a highlight reel, but usually awful at selling and pacing, which is bad for trying to crack the main event scene. He deserves to end his career in WWE tbh |
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Jan 30, 2024 16:31:33 GMT -5
I don’t know how true it is but I read that Pat Patterson was behind Ziggler and wanted him pushed, but they kept making him lose just to see Pat’s reaction
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Post by J-MANN: Tag Team Champion on Jan 30, 2024 16:38:15 GMT -5
I don’t know how true it is but I read that Pat Patterson was behind Ziggler and wanted him pushed, but they kept making him lose just to see Pat’s reaction Damn |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2024 18:20:57 GMT -5
I don’t know how true it is but I read that Pat Patterson was behind Ziggler and wanted him pushed, but they kept making him lose just to see Pat’s reaction Lol sounds believable tbh |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jan 30, 2024 19:08:45 GMT -5
I don’t know how true it is but I read that Pat Patterson was behind Ziggler and wanted him pushed, but they kept making him lose just to see Pat’s reaction What are the odds Vince made Pat sign an NDA? |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 1, 2024 18:03:35 GMT -5
If Bobby Roode never got injured, then we'd probably still have em as a tag team in WWE tbh.
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Post by J-MANN: Tag Team Champion on Feb 1, 2024 18:06:11 GMT -5
If Bobby Roode never got injured, then we'd probably still have em as a tag team in WWE tbh. I love Bobby Roode. His run in NXT was.. Glorious |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 1, 2024 18:08:19 GMT -5
If Bobby Roode never got injured, then we'd probably still have em as a tag team in WWE tbh. I love Bobby Roode. His run in NXT was.. Glorious What a guy. Hope he recovers & has a final run one day. |
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Post by J-MANN: Tag Team Champion on Feb 1, 2024 18:11:43 GMT -5
I love Bobby Roode. His run in NXT was.. Glorious What a guy. Hope he recovers & has a final run one day. Me too man, he never got a fair shake on the main roster, IMO. With Triple H running things, I think he would be more successful. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 1, 2024 18:12:53 GMT -5
What a guy. Hope he recovers & has a final run one day. Me too man, he never got a fair shake on the main roster, IMO. With Triple H running things, I think he would be more successful. He'd be a top guy easily... at least he won the US & Tag Titles. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 1, 2024 19:16:01 GMT -5
The WWE's biggest loser. Most losses in the history of the company. According to Ziggler Vince deliberately buried him to piss off Patterson who was very supportive of him backstage. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 2, 2024 21:13:47 GMT -5
The WWE's biggest loser. Most losses in the history of the company. According to Ziggler Vince deliberately buried him to piss off Patterson who was very supportive of him backstage. Lol so it was true then 😅 🤣 |
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Post by k5 on Feb 3, 2024 17:25:25 GMT -5
I lost interest when he decided to just be a wwe hand and not develop himself further
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Post by BØRNS on Feb 4, 2024 2:45:54 GMT -5
I lost interest when he decided to just be a wwe hand and not develop himself further In his defense there was not the same opportunity there was when McIntyre and Rhodes left WWE. The indies weren't well known to the broader wrestling community during the Ruthless Aggression era, they were just starting on DVDs. By the time the Indy scene had some recognition everyone shortly got signed to NXT. There was a barren few years that would have been the time for Ziggler to jump, but why take that risk when he's established on the card? Drew was released and Cody was in a worse position than Ziggler (Ziggler spent much more time in higher profile programs than Cody at the time). Anyway yes, in a perfect world Ziggler could have made that happen, but his WWE career began too early that it would have been a bad bet and the resources just weren't there at the time when WWE had peak monopolization on pro wrestling. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 4, 2024 17:51:36 GMT -5
I lost interest when he decided to just be a wwe hand and not develop himself further Can't really blame em tbh...getting paid millions to do nothing much lol. Surprised they never released him sooner... 20 years is a long time in WWE ffs. |
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