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Post by tenup on Jan 29, 2024 21:00:32 GMT -5
Why are the winners of the Rumble always main eventers? There should be fluke victories which give opportunity to talent who coast throughout the year to find that main event spot. Someone like Carmelo should've won this year's Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2024 3:12:05 GMT -5
Carmelo? Hahahaha… no.
Shinsuke winning in 2018 was shocking, but then he didn’t even main event WrestleMania 34.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jan 30, 2024 5:10:15 GMT -5
2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021, 2022
Have been the only unpredictable ones in my viewings. Undertaker winning in 2007 was beyond random to me, even as a kid lol
I don’t count 2008 & 2010 because they both had surprise return winners but even leading up to the event, I don’t recall being able to peg anyone with a “yeah this guy is winning”.
Hell, even this year wasn’t predictable. There was just a major predication and we were all wrong.
I’ve never understood when people say the “rumble should be to make someone a star!!” Argument … like dude
2000 - The Rock 2001 - Austin 2002 - Triple H 2003 - Lesnar 2004 - Benoit 2005 - Batista 2006 - Mysterio 2007 - Undertaker 2008 - Cena 2009 - Orton 2010 - Edge 2011 - Del Rio 2012 - Sheamus 2013 - Cena 2014 - Batista
Out of all those matches the only one that was a “star making win” was Batista. Other than that every single rumble has essentially been an already boneafied main eventer winning the match
So I have no clue where people get this idea that the purpose of the match is to build new stars by having them win it
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jan 30, 2024 5:17:13 GMT -5
I do agree that the match SHOULD be used to do so but they make it seem like winners back in the day were always nobody’s who became mega stars from winning
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2024 5:17:22 GMT -5
The Rumble winners are fine tbh. If you take out the WM main event/ Championship implications, then I'd say we'd probably get more random guys winning it instead of top guys.
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Post by J-MANN on Jan 30, 2024 8:10:13 GMT -5
Someone like Carmelo should've won this year's Rumble. Definitely not
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 30, 2024 8:36:04 GMT -5
Gargano should have won the men’s match despite not being in it.
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Post by J-MANN on Jan 30, 2024 8:40:52 GMT -5
Gargano should have won the men’s match despite not being in it. He and his wife should have both won their respected Rumble matches. That would have been the ticket!
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jan 30, 2024 10:05:20 GMT -5
Yes they should, it's called making sense
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Jan 30, 2024 10:23:07 GMT -5
There have been plenty of surprise winners. Sheamus and Nakamura spring to mind instantly.
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Post by tigerlillysingh on Jan 30, 2024 10:24:57 GMT -5
It is coming round it feels like anyway but we have to see what they do now with the titles this year to see if they are open to a new generation taking over… there’s certainly options.
Like next year I can see a Bron winning but he is an exception to what’s around and who can ascend quickly, it also feels like they are going to hold him back as long as possible. It’s imperative to move on from Roman and Seth because not so much in Seth’s case but they are blocking any kind of progression. Now it looks like we’re gonna be going on a journey to get to SethvPunk in 2025, maybe Roman keeps the belt for another two years if Rock is coming in 2025 & they want it to be a title match and if that happens it would have to mean that Cody gets it 2026 once Roman moves past Rock - these are huge blockers to anyone like Bron ascending that can take years to manoeuvre past.
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Post by J-MANN on Jan 30, 2024 10:42:45 GMT -5
Like next year I can see a Bron winning but he is an exception to what’s around and who can ascend quickly, it also feels like they are going to hold him back as long as possible. It’s imperative to move on from Roman and Seth because not so much in Seth’s case but they are blocking any kind of progression. Now it looks like we’re gonna be going on a journey to get to SethvPunk in 2025, maybe Roman keeps the belt for another two years if Rock is coming in 2025 & they want it to be a title match and if that happens it would have to mean that Cody gets it 2026 once Roman moves past Rock - these are huge blockers to anyone like Bron ascending that can take years to manoeuvre past. Hell yeah. Let Bron win it next year. That World title would look great around his waist.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2024 10:58:09 GMT -5
There have been plenty of surprise winners. Sheamus and Nakamura spring to mind instantly. Sheamus wasn’t shocking. He was being built at that time. He and Jericho were the favorites to win that Rumble. I think people who mentions “unpredictable winners” are referring to wins such as Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Shinsuke Nakamura, etc… but even then, it’s not the majority of winners. Just more highly receptive winners because of the “shock value” of it. And Bron Breakker sucks. Dude is literally just a more athletic Goldberg. I’ve still yet to watch a match of his and be impressed with his wrestling ability. Dudes strong and energetic… meh.
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Post by J-MANN on Jan 30, 2024 11:05:42 GMT -5
And Bron Breakker sucks. Dude is literally just a more athletic Goldberg. I’ve still yet to watch a match of his and be impressed with his wrestling ability. Dudes strong and energetic… meh. Everything he’s ever done has been in NXT. He’s extremely good for his lack of overall wrestling experience.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 30, 2024 11:05:49 GMT -5
DAE the top stars shouldn’t be in top matches at WrestleMania??
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 30, 2024 11:09:06 GMT -5
I feel like Austin winning it in 1997 was a surprise. For anyone watching wrestling at that time probably felt that Bret Hart would be winning that one.
In 1989 I think Big John Studd was a surprise too, because fans believed or felt Hogan was gonna win it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2024 11:29:36 GMT -5
And Bron Breakker sucks. Dude is literally just a more athletic Goldberg. I’ve still yet to watch a match of his and be impressed with his wrestling ability. Dudes strong and energetic… meh. Everything he’s ever done has been in NXT. He’s extremely good for his lack of overall wrestling experience. Which is why he needs to spend more time in NXT. This guy isn’t there next star. This isn’t the Attitude/Ruthless Aggression Era. Your stars can now put on great wrestling matches. Roman is the exception. He’s gotten better, but his dance partner makes a huge difference.
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Jan 30, 2024 11:56:44 GMT -5
There have been plenty of surprise winners. Sheamus and Nakamura spring to mind instantly. Bron wasn’t shocking. He was being built at that time. He and Jericho were the favorites to win that Rumble. I think people who mentions “unpredictable winners” are referring to wins such as Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Shinsuke Nakamura, etc… but even then, it’s not the majority of winners. Just more highly receptive winners because of the “shock value” of it. And Bron Breakker sucks. Dude is literally just a more athletic Goldberg. I’ve still yet to watch a match of his and be impressed with his wrestling ability. Dudes strong and energetic… meh. Where did this Bron stuff come from? I didn't mention him once.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 30, 2024 12:13:35 GMT -5
I think what the OP is saying is that as fun as Rumbles are, you already know before it starts that 25 of them have NO chance. So in a way, it's pointless. Luckily the WWE makes it entertaining and fun. But yeah ... Ivar might be cool and all to some and he's a big boy, but we all know he's not winning. The way they do it is fine, but say you have 10 guys that could win. That would make it better. Imagine if Logan, Owens, Reigns, AJ, Randy, Knight, etc. were all in it as well. The illusion of "anyone can win" is a lie ... but again, Rumbles are entertaining so it doesn't matter.
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Post by rkmo: Just a Fact of Life on Jan 30, 2024 13:23:12 GMT -5
I think what the OP is saying is that as fun as Rumbles are, you already know before it starts that 25 of them have NO chance. So in a way, it's pointless. Luckily the WWE makes it entertaining and fun. But yeah ... Ivar might be cool and all to some and he's a big boy, but we all know he's not winning. The way they do it is fine, but say you have 10 guys that could win. That would make it better. Imagine if Logan, Owens, Reigns, AJ, Randy, Knight, etc. were all in it as well. The illusion of "anyone can win" is a lie ... but again, Rumbles are entertaining so it doesn't matter. More than 2 people being built as strong, competent contenders at the same time? Blasphemy, I say!
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