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Post by kgchampion on Mar 13, 2024 4:31:23 GMT -5
Just an update: E107 Solo Sikoa’s crotch peg has started splitting vertically between the crotch piece and the ball joint. Fantastic.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 13, 2024 8:55:23 GMT -5
If you guys are having so much trouble with stiff joints, you might wanna try silicone grease or shock oil for RC cars. Just use it in moderation because if you over do it the joint will become extremely loose.
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Post by The One Who Collects on Mar 13, 2024 18:41:54 GMT -5
I’ve had this happen too. First time ever with a ball joint figure. Happened with the new Solo and Paul Bearer. My advice is when you open a figure up, test for the tightness. If it’s tight, heat the figures leg with a hairdryer or boiling water. The problem is the glue used for the legs or hip going into the ball joint. The ratchet joints were more susceptible to this. Whatever they changed in production has caused this to happen with the ball joints.
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Mar 13, 2024 19:00:01 GMT -5
Ok, here’s an update. I actually resolved the issue. I fixed it by moving the legs upward over and over again for actual hours off and on over the last 2 days. I think it ground away enough plastic in the socket to allow movement. And I know it was grinding away plastic because I could see plastic dust around the hip joints that wasn’t there before. Yikes. Next time just soak them in boiling water to soften the plastic. Much easier, safer and faster results |
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 14, 2024 2:33:43 GMT -5
Ok, here’s an update. I actually resolved the issue. I fixed it by moving the legs upward over and over again for actual hours off and on over the last 2 days. I think it ground away enough plastic in the socket to allow movement. And I know it was grinding away plastic because I could see plastic dust around the hip joints that wasn’t there before. Yikes. Next time just soak them in boiling water to soften the plastic. Much easier, safer and faster results But there are others that say they’ve tried that and it didn’t help. I’ve tried it on an Undertaker and Bulldog from the pre-swappable hands era to no avail. |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 14, 2024 9:05:40 GMT -5
Very strange. Never had this issue with ball jointed hips. My E106 Sami was fine. My E105 Gargano's legs are very hard to move but they're ratchet. I just swapped them for ball jointed legs.
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Post by The Madness on Mar 14, 2024 20:23:09 GMT -5
I haven’t had problems with hips, but i did notice the MNW Hogan had extremely tight knee joints, to the point that it felt like they were going to snap before they moved.
I’m definitely not complaining, though; I’ll take joints that are too tight over ones that are too loose any day.
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 15, 2024 5:09:38 GMT -5
Ok, here’s an update. I actually resolved the issue. I fixed it by moving the legs upward over and over again for actual hours off and on over the last 2 days. I think it ground away enough plastic in the socket to allow movement. And I know it was grinding away plastic because I could see plastic dust around the hip joints that wasn’t there before. Yikes. Next time just soak them in boiling water to soften the plastic. Much easier, safer and faster results Alright, I tried this on Sami Zayn and the ‘97 Legends Undertaker and once the plastic cold down to room temperature, they were just as stiff as before. How long do you keep them in boiling water? I did maybe 5 seconds at the most. |
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Mar 15, 2024 13:35:30 GMT -5
Next time just soak them in boiling water to soften the plastic. Much easier, safer and faster results Alright, I tried this on Sami Zayn and the ‘97 Legends Undertaker and once the plastic cold down to room temperature, they were just as stiff as before. How long do you keep them in boiling water? I did maybe 5 seconds at the most. Well 5 seconds wasn’t worth the time spent bringing the water to a boil lol. Let them soak in there for at least a minute/or until they are rubbery and flexible. Then when you remove them, place on a towel to absorb excess water. When you can handle them move all the joints around for another minute or so. Yes when they come to room temp they will stiff up again but it shouldn’t be as bad as it once was. Ive done this method for 20+ years on various lines of figures and have never had an ongoing issue afterwards |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 17, 2024 17:56:35 GMT -5
Just got a new E106 Gable who has this issue. I noticed he has new legs.
The act of moving his legs chipped away the paint on his shorts on the crotch. I moved his right leg out and now cannot get it to go back down as it is just bending the barbell ball joint connector. Have to do the heat trick to get his leg back down.
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 17, 2024 22:20:07 GMT -5
Alright, I tried this on Sami Zayn and the ‘97 Legends Undertaker and once the plastic cold down to room temperature, they were just as stiff as before. How long do you keep them in boiling water? I did maybe 5 seconds at the most. Well 5 seconds wasn’t worth the time spent bringing the water to a boil lol. Let them soak in there for at least a minute/or until they are rubbery and flexible. Then when you remove them, place on a towel to absorb excess water. When you can handle them move all the joints around for another minute or so. Yes when they come to room temp they will stiff up again but it shouldn’t be as bad as it once was. Ive done this method for 20+ years on various lines of figures and have never had an ongoing issue afterwards Thanks, I’ll give it a try. |
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Post by RybackV1 on Mar 17, 2024 22:47:04 GMT -5
Scared to open my Hogan 3 pack now. I really needed the Hollywood and Hulk Still Rules as they’ve been a few of my most wanted figures for years now , but haven’t bought anything else past when this issue was reported. Last was 105 Steiner and Melo
They need to change the formula immediately if this is an actual issue. It’s been way too long with the WWE License for them to make a mistake this bad.
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Post by TeamFnKick on Mar 18, 2024 7:14:22 GMT -5
Yeah the last order I received from ringside, none of the hips moves. 107 Sami, Gable, Solo, and Cody top picks. I tried the heat trick and it worked....for like 20 minutes. Then they reverted back to statues. I did the heat thing a second time and worked the joints longer and they are pretty good now. My Balor 107 just shipped with Logan Paul (order was held up for Keith Lee, Swerve and Kaiser back order) im sure Balor and Paul won't move either. Exactly this |
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Post by shanieomaniac on Mar 18, 2024 22:04:14 GMT -5
I was trying out the legs on the Maivia 3 pack and from what I felt they were tight but not stiff, if that makes sense. I could move them and didn't feel like I was going to break them like I did the E106-107 ones.
I wanna find where I stashed that MNW Austin and try it next but this may be a case of a temporary QC issue rather than a long term change. Need more data though.
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 20, 2024 23:58:58 GMT -5
I was trying out the legs on the Maivia 3 pack and from what I felt they were tight but not stiff, if that makes sense. I could move them and didn't feel like I was going to break them like I did the E106-107 ones. I wanna find where I stashed that MNW Austin and try it next but this may be a case of a temporary QC issue rather than a long term change. Need more data though. Keep us posted if you find that Austin. |
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Post by czw4life on Mar 21, 2024 9:21:58 GMT -5
Anyone else notice how stiff the knee joints are becoming on newer mattel figures?
Recently I received baf Nicholas, ringside dude love, elite 107 finn balor. And all of their knees dont bend very easily like the older figures used to. Gave them the hot water baths and still way too tight. They almost click into place now.
On top of inaccurate part/mold usages, incorrect details (missing black knee pads on dude love) on figures not really a fan of the newer mattel figures
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Post by redrooster on Mar 21, 2024 11:56:23 GMT -5
Pretty much any new figures in pants/jeans and tights…the knees are impossible to bend. For a figure photo guy like me…it’s making posing incredibly difficult.
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 21, 2024 17:53:51 GMT -5
Anyone else notice how stiff the knee joints are becoming on newer mattel figures? Recently I received baf Nicholas, ringside dude love, elite 107 finn balor. And all of their knees dont bend very easily like the older figures used to. Gave them the hot water baths and still way too tight. They almost click into place now. On top of inaccurate part/mold usages, incorrect details (missing black knee pads on dude love) on figures not really a fan of the newer mattel figures Yeah, all my figures with pinless knees are stiff as hell. But my Scott Steiner has a lower knee joint that slides out of place by a few millimeters for some reason. |
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 22, 2024 17:15:14 GMT -5
I managed to get lucky and snag a normal priced Solo off Amazon again and this one’s thighs are stiff, but his legs aren’t stuck. The other one which prompted this thread, his thigh joint was sheered all the way through, so his leg is now completely detached from his body and he’s going back for a refund. I don’t know if it was a faulty ball joint or what. That barbell piece in the crotch is solid hard plastic, but that thing was cut clean through just from moving a stiff leg up and down.
My first Hogan 3-pack had to be returned because Hollywood’s foot snapped off. One of the ankle joints was deformed and full of holes in the plastic because it clearly didn’t get enough plastic poured into the mold. Maybe that Solo Sikoa had a similar deformity in the thigh joint? I don’t know. I’m just theorizing here. Just be careful if a joint won’t bend.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Mar 22, 2024 18:17:21 GMT -5
I was trying out the legs on the Maivia 3 pack and from what I felt they were tight but not stiff, if that makes sense. I could move them and didn't feel like I was going to break them like I did the E106-107 ones. I wanna find where I stashed that MNW Austin and try it next but this may be a case of a temporary QC issue rather than a long term change. Need more data though. Keep us posted if you find that Austin. Ok, found Austin I just grabbed The Rock from the 3-Pack to compare directly. The Rock has pinned knees and both his knees and hips work just fine. The Austin has pinless joints and, while his hips and lower knee bends work, his upper knee bends feel completely frozen. He's essentially got single jointed knees because that top bend ain't moving. |
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