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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 7, 2024 11:48:56 GMT -5
Would love them to do RSC Macho King,OG Elite Regal & OG Elite Cody Mattel lost the rights to Macho Man so Macho King is one figure that can't be re-released. Speculation is that Macho has been resigned since he is in 2k24 DLC. I am aware that video game appearances =/= figs but that theory has been proven false here lately as it seems 2K only works with WWE signed talent the same as Mattel. Even if Macho appearing in the game is a one off signing it doesn’t mean he’s forever off the table for Mattel as they have been very optimistic that he’ll be resigned.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 7, 2024 11:56:57 GMT -5
Why many people as a collector so devastated with the re release. Mafex is doing it, Hasbro is doing it. What's the problem? As a fan I need that character in my collection, why would I collect item for value, which is being sold as a toy LOl. There are many other things which are valuable just don't buy toys then 😆 Just because something is made as a toy doesn’t mean it can’t be considered collectible or valuable. That’s like saying a vinyl record can’t be considered a collectible because it’s meant to be listened to.
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Mar 7, 2024 12:02:37 GMT -5
Mattel lost the rights to Macho Man so Macho King is one figure that can't be re-released. Speculation is that Macho has been resigned since he is in 2k24 DLC. I am aware that video game appearances =/= figs but that theory has been proven false here lately as it seems 2K only works with WWE signed talent the same as Mattel. Even if Macho appearing in the game is a one off signing it doesn’t mean he’s forever off the table for Mattel as they have been very optimistic that he’ll be resigned. he’s not just dlc he’s base game as well
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Post by crush on Mar 7, 2024 13:36:25 GMT -5
Why many people as a collector so devastated with the re release. Mafex is doing it, Hasbro is doing it. What's the problem? As a fan I need that character in my collection, why would I collect item for value, which is being sold as a toy LOl. There are many other things which are valuable just don't buy toys then 😆 Just because something is made as a toy doesn’t mean it can’t be considered collectible or valuable. That’s like saying a vinyl record can’t be considered a collectible because it’s meant to be listened to. But again, vinyls are reprinted and repressed all the time, and generally that doesn’t nuke the value of early rarer pressings.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 7, 2024 13:46:03 GMT -5
If we really want to get into it these are all mass produced and they haven’t touched the actually rare ones like Warriors exclusives or Comic Con exclusives. The closest would be Undertaker and that again had different paint apps and in completely different packaging that wouldn’t really effect the originals value.
Anything else was just poorly distributed and people like to feel better about themselves that they have something someone else doesn’t. “I was luckier than you! Pay me $100 human dollars!”
Again, for those who think I’m overly pessimistic, I’m just a realist. I love my figures. They give me serotonin boosts, but at the end of the day it’s all temporary so I don’t put a ton of stock into the “investment” of them. If I get tired of some and make a buck, cool. If not hopefully someone else can just enjoy them. I do love this community, but sometimes the hobby becomes an addiction/mental illness.
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Mar 7, 2024 14:09:49 GMT -5
If we really want to get into it these are all mass produced and they haven’t touched the actually rare ones like Warriors exclusives or Comic Con exclusives. The closest would be Undertaker and that again had different paint apps and in completely different packaging that wouldn’t really effect the originals value. Anything else was just poorly distributed and people like to feel better about themselves that they have something someone else doesn’t. “I was luckier than you! Pay me $100 human dollars!” Again, for those who think I’m overly pessimistic, I’m just a realist. I love my figures. They give me serotonin boosts, but at the end of the day it’s all temporary so I don’t put a ton of stock into the “investment” of them. If I get tired of some and make a buck, cool. If not hopefully someone else can just enjoy them. I do love this community, but sometimes the hobby becomes an addiction/mental illness. It’s jarring to read some of the comments like “If the package has one tiny little minuscule ding or mark I can’t take it.” That’s exemplary of mental illness in the form of OCD. Tons of collectors have it, and it’s wild how many aren’t aware of it at all. The people who need every figure from every line, which they obviously don’t “need”. It’s a hobby that’s supposed to be fun, not a compulsion that needs to be fed. Glad to see some get it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2024 14:14:44 GMT -5
The people who need every figure from every line, which they obviously don’t “need”. It’s a hobby that’s supposed to be fun, not a compulsion that needs to be fed. Glad to see some get it. It’s a reason I always put “need” in quotes. Personally, I collect for the nostalgia/look of the figures. I have a timeframe I collect of and anything outside of that, I skip… for the most part.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Mar 7, 2024 14:21:14 GMT -5
If we really want to get into it these are all mass produced and they haven’t touched the actually rare ones like Warriors exclusives or Comic Con exclusives. The closest would be Undertaker and that again had different paint apps and in completely different packaging that wouldn’t really effect the originals value. Anything else was just poorly distributed and people like to feel better about themselves that they have something someone else doesn’t. “I was luckier than you! Pay me $100 human dollars!” Again, for those who think I’m overly pessimistic, I’m just a realist. I love my figures. They give me serotonin boosts, but at the end of the day it’s all temporary so I don’t put a ton of stock into the “investment” of them. If I get tired of some and make a buck, cool. If not hopefully someone else can just enjoy them. I do love this community, but sometimes the hobby becomes an addiction/mental illness. It’s jarring to read some of the comments like “If the package has one tiny little minuscule ding or mark I can’t take it.” That’s exemplary of mental illness in the form of OCD. Tons of collectors have it, and it’s wild how many aren’t aware of it at all. The people who need every figure from every line, which they obviously don’t “need”. It’s a hobby that’s supposed to be fun, not a compulsion that needs to be fed. Glad to see some get it. Oh come on this comment on a board loaded with people that will critique where the pin stripe line is located on someone's boot or wrist band and then scream about it not being accurate???
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 7, 2024 14:30:15 GMT -5
I bought the Dudley Boys because I wasn't collecting that much when they came out.
I don't really care about how rare figures are. I open AEW Chases.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 7, 2024 15:12:55 GMT -5
If we really want to get into it these are all mass produced and they haven’t touched the actually rare ones like Warriors exclusives or Comic Con exclusives. The closest would be Undertaker and that again had different paint apps and in completely different packaging that wouldn’t really effect the originals value. Anything else was just poorly distributed and people like to feel better about themselves that they have something someone else doesn’t. “I was luckier than you! Pay me $100 human dollars!” Again, for those who think I’m overly pessimistic, I’m just a realist. I love my figures. They give me serotonin boosts, but at the end of the day it’s all temporary so I don’t put a ton of stock into the “investment” of them. If I get tired of some and make a buck, cool. If not hopefully someone else can just enjoy them. I do love this community, but sometimes the hobby becomes anaddiction/mental illness. You keep looking at it from the perspective of a scalper and that the scalper is getting screwed so who cares. I’m not a scalper. I don’t want my figures to hold value because I am hoping to sell them. I just dont want something rare and sought after to lose its value. Let me describe my mindset as a collector more clear. When the first Harley Race figure was released, it was impossible to find. I never once saw any figure from that series in my Walmart. It totally sucked, but I knew that if I wanted it badly enough for my collection , then I’d have to pay scalper prices. Yes scalpers suck, but no one forced me to buy it. I was willing to pay over retail to ensure that I can add this figure to my collection. I paid $65 plus shipping for it way before it went into the hundreds territory. Years later, that figure gets a rerelease. I was upset this figure was going to lose value, but I was just as upset that I paid $65 plus shipping for it when everyone is now getting it for retail. I don’t like how these companies rerelease to the point where everything is just worth retail. Why couldn’t people save to pay like I did to try to add a valuable piece to their collection? Same goes with the Taker. I spent nearly $200 for that Taker years into the line and now all of a sudden its going to be $30. That’s very frustrating for someone that works hard for their money and also works hard for their collection.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 7, 2024 15:34:22 GMT -5
If we really want to get into it these are all mass produced and they haven’t touched the actually rare ones like Warriors exclusives or Comic Con exclusives. The closest would be Undertaker and that again had different paint apps and in completely different packaging that wouldn’t really effect the originals value. Anything else was just poorly distributed and people like to feel better about themselves that they have something someone else doesn’t. “I was luckier than you! Pay me $100 human dollars!” Again, for those who think I’m overly pessimistic, I’m just a realist. I love my figures. They give me serotonin boosts, but at the end of the day it’s all temporary so I don’t put a ton of stock into the “investment” of them. If I get tired of some and make a buck, cool. If not hopefully someone else can just enjoy them. I do love this community, but sometimes the hobby becomes anaddiction/mental illness. You keep looking at it from the perspective of a scalper and that the scalper is getting screwed so who cares. I’m not a scalper. I don’t want my figures to hold value because I am hoping to sell them. I just dont want something rare and sought after to lose its value. Let me describe my mindset as a collector more clear. When the first Harley Race figure was released, it was impossible to find. I never once saw any figure from that series in my Walmart. It totally sucked, but I knew that if I wanted it badly enough for my collection , then I’d have to pay scalper prices. Yes scalpers suck, but no one forced me to buy it. I was willing to pay over retail to ensure that I can add this figure to my collection. I paid $65 plus shipping for it way before it went into the hundreds territory. Years later, that figure gets a rerelease. I was upset this figure was going to lose value, but I was just as upset that I paid $65 plus shipping for it when everyone is now getting it for retail. I don’t like how these companies rerelease to the point where everything is just worth retail. Why couldn’t people save to pay like I did to try to add a valuable piece to their collection? Same goes with the Taker. I spent nearly $200 for that Taker years into the line and now all of a sudden its going to be $30. That’s very frustrating for someone that works hard for their money and also works hard for their collection. We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree. It seems more bitter than anything that you overpaid and want everyone else to do the same. As soon as they started rereleasing figures like the Lost Legends set people should have realized they’ll revisit popular figures. I’m guilty of not being the most patient either, but I’m happy that people want something can get it without paying an arm and a leg. When I started collecting the Road Dogg elite had just came out and I thought I’d missed it. Only saw listings for $50+ on eBay. Was patient and found a couple. Eventually they would make other versions, but wouldn’t be at all upset if they made an updated version. Also that Harley still comes with a BaF piece that the new one doesn’t. It should still hold some value, but no regular elite should ever be $300. That’s gross. Cool for people that can afford that, but I could buy 3 sets of elites for that price…
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 7, 2024 15:41:12 GMT -5
You keep looking at it from the perspective of a scalper and that the scalper is getting screwed so who cares. I’m not a scalper. I don’t want my figures to hold value because I am hoping to sell them. I just dont want something rare and sought after to lose its value. Let me describe my mindset as a collector more clear. When the first Harley Race figure was released, it was impossible to find. I never once saw any figure from that series in my Walmart. It totally sucked, but I knew that if I wanted it badly enough for my collection , then I’d have to pay scalper prices. Yes scalpers suck, but no one forced me to buy it. I was willing to pay over retail to ensure that I can add this figure to my collection. I paid $65 plus shipping for it way before it went into the hundreds territory. Years later, that figure gets a rerelease. I was upset this figure was going to lose value, but I was just as upset that I paid $65 plus shipping for it when everyone is now getting it for retail. I don’t like how these companies rerelease to the point where everything is just worth retail. Why couldn’t people save to pay like I did to try to add a valuable piece to their collection? Same goes with the Taker. I spent nearly $200 for that Taker years into the line and now all of a sudden its going to be $30. That’s very frustrating for someone that works hard for their money and also works hard for their collection. We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree. It seems more bitter than anything that you overpaid and want everyone else to do the same. As soon as they started rereleasing figures like the Lost Legends set people should have realized they’ll revisit popular figures. I’m guilty of not being the most patient either, but I’m happy that people want something can get it without paying an arm and a leg. When I started collecting the Road Dogg elite had just came out and I thought I’d missed it. Only saw listings for $50+ on eBay. Was patient and found a couple. Eventually they would make other versions, but wouldn’t be at all upset if they made an updated version. Also that Harley still comes with a BaF piece that the new one doesn’t. It should still hold some value, but no regular elite should ever be $300. That’s gross. Cool for people that can afford that, but I could buy 3 sets of elites for that price… Why can’t a figure be worth $300? That’s a lot of money sure, but why can’t a collectible gain that type of value? That’s part of the fun to me. It’s up to the collector if they want to pay that or not. You’re not willing to pay that, which is totally fine, but you can’t understand why a collectible could be that sought after? That’s what I don’t understand. And I’m not bitter, but it I can’t say it’s not frustrating. Rereleases were never a thing in this line until recently so I would have never known that they would “revisit popular figures.”
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 7, 2024 15:47:45 GMT -5
We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree. It seems more bitter than anything that you overpaid and want everyone else to do the same. As soon as they started rereleasing figures like the Lost Legends set people should have realized they’ll revisit popular figures. I’m guilty of not being the most patient either, but I’m happy that people want something can get it without paying an arm and a leg. When I started collecting the Road Dogg elite had just came out and I thought I’d missed it. Only saw listings for $50+ on eBay. Was patient and found a couple. Eventually they would make other versions, but wouldn’t be at all upset if they made an updated version. Also that Harley still comes with a BaF piece that the new one doesn’t. It should still hold some value, but no regular elite should ever be $300. That’s gross. Cool for people that can afford that, but I could buy 3 sets of elites for that price… Why can’t a figure be worth $300? That’s a lot of money sure, but why can’t a collectible gain that type of value? That’s part of the fun to me. It’s up to the collector if they want to pay that or not. You’re not willing to pay that, which is totally fine, but you can’t understand why a collectible could be that sought after? That’s what I don’t understand. again, we’re just gonna have to agree to disagree. I don’t get enjoyment from my collection knowing others that want the same stuff need to sell a kidney. I enjoy it for what it is. I mentioned magic the gathering because that’s another hobby I have I can equate this too. Make everything more attainable so that the hobby can have more people enjoy it. It doesn’t have to be some club that only the ones that scratch and save get into. It’s toys. They’re supposed to be fun, not a hassle or headache or 401k. Cool if they appreciate in value, cool if they don’t. I’d like everyone to have affordable real estate, but unfortunately space is the only thing they’re not making more of… And rereleases aren’t new. The legends were rereleases as Kmart Hall of Fame figures and Lost Legends was like 2016. Defining Moments Undertaker/Ministry version was 2015/2016 as well.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 7, 2024 15:56:20 GMT -5
Why can’t a figure be worth $300? That’s a lot of money sure, but why can’t a collectible gain that type of value? That’s part of the fun to me. It’s up to the collector if they want to pay that or not. You’re not willing to pay that, which is totally fine, but you can’t understand why a collectible could be that sought after? That’s what I don’t understand. again, we’re just gonna have to agree to disagree. I don’t get enjoyment from my collection knowing others that want the same stuff need to sell a kidney. I enjoy it for what it is. I mentioned magic the gathering because that’s another hobby I have I can equate this too. Make everything more attainable so that the hobby can have more people enjoy it. It doesn’t have to be some club that only the ones that scratch and save get into. It’s toys. They’re supposed to be fun, not a hassle or headache or 401k. Cool if they appreciate in value, cool if they don’t. I’d like everyone to have affordable real estate, but unfortunately space is the only thing they’re not making more of… Yeah I don’t agree. And the Magic the Gathering comparison makes it even worse. Why should every single card in a trading card game be easily and equally accessible. What’s the challenge then? Everyone has the same exact deck? What’s the point of that?
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 7, 2024 15:57:55 GMT -5
"From the Vault" secretly means Mattel is stealing the value of people's collections lmao Just wait until the Doink UE from the new gen crowd fund gets rereleased. 😃
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 7, 2024 16:03:05 GMT -5
As someone who started collecting on Elite series 1 and owns every main line figure from 1-39, this is very good, they should keep doing this
Every single one of these had single joint arms, stagnant hands, and many had bad face scans (some of which unfortunately still do on the Vault releases). The argument that they should never release these again is stupid
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 7, 2024 16:10:43 GMT -5
As someone who started collecting on Elite series 1 and owns every main line figure from 1-39, this is very good, they should keep doing this Every single one of these had single joint arms, stagnant hands, and many had bad face scans (some of which unfortunately still do on the Vault releases). The argument that they should never release these again is stupid Cool. That’s your opinion.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 7, 2024 16:11:32 GMT -5
As someone who started collecting on Elite series 1 and owns every main line figure from 1-39, this is very good, they should keep doing this Every single one of these had single joint arms, stagnant hands, and many had bad face scans (some of which unfortunately still do on the Vault releases). The argument that they should never release these again is stupid Cool. That’s your opinion. Yes and it’s correct
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 7, 2024 16:12:45 GMT -5
Cool. That’s your opinion. Yes and it’s correct Not really how an opinion works.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Mar 7, 2024 16:12:51 GMT -5
As someone who started collecting on Elite series 1 and owns every main line figure from 1-39, this is very good, they should keep doing this Every single one of these had single joint arms, stagnant hands, and many had bad face scans (some of which unfortunately still do on the Vault releases). The argument that they should never release these again is stupid EXACTLY. Also, I’m getting the legends themed figs from this series, but I think I’m going to keep the originals too, because, they are just different enough for me to keep, and they have another place in my collection now, so I can pose THESE better, and leave the other ones more static posed…if that makes sense. IIRC that is the first Phenom-era attire (Survivor Series 1996) I always thought it looked great…it eventually involved into his 1997-early ‘99 look. And ‘97-‘99 IMO is PEAK Underaker. That is my Definitive era, and with the MNW, The Legends, the Ultimate, the old Network Spotlight, and a better rerelease here. We kinda have that whole era covered.
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