switchbladeera
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Post by switchbladeera on Apr 22, 2024 16:06:29 GMT -5
Ruthless, not useful lol. But this phone has a mind of its own and I'm afraid to hit edit and have the phone delete half the message.
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X-27
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Post by X-27 on Apr 22, 2024 16:38:54 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not quoting all that. Lol homeboy made some good points, but I also never said that winning is "all that matters".
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Post by bWo on Apr 22, 2024 16:41:58 GMT -5
Running with the above example, that is exactly what's now happened and what Ospreay/Danielson are setting up. Ospreay "hurt" Danielson with the Tiger Driver '91. He then "didn't see" the ref call for doc and nailed a hidden Blade to put Danielson away. Post show conference Ospreay apologizes to Danielson for that and says he's retiring the Tiger Driver '91. Tk says Bryan is likely fine. Now the next time they meet (and they've set it up for there to be a next time) the story is about if Ospreay approaches the match more cautiously, and if it costs him against Bryan, who will likely be useful enough to use the Tiger Driver himself for the win or a similarly dangerous move. Even beyond the Bryan matches, ospreay now has a story built into every match going forward about when he's going to feel desperate enough to break the glass on the move again. Hangman had a not super dissimilar story about the deadeye when it failed to beat Jericho, and he didn't use the move again for like two years until he felt confident enough to hit it again and would setup the buckshot with it. Okada stopped using the Rainmaker for like a year and won everything with the money clip. Point being I think when these top guys are really on their game, we see stories play out in the ring much like the above hockey example, and Danielson/Ospreay did exactly that. Yes and no. It played out in the ring, but the story also continued into the press conference as you also mentioned there. That's where they are stepping outside of the, "let the matches tell the story" mentality and going to the, "let's add a story by including some intrigue/twists/drama OUTSIDE of the match" mentality. Laying it out the way you just did there with Ospreay perhaps being a little apprehensive next time because of what he did this time, and then building on that and going forward is more interesting than, "you used to be the best but I'm younger and I'm better and I'll prove it in the ring." It's more interesting than just, "you may be the best in Japan but I'm the best in America and I'll prove it in the ring." The story you just created right there is better than most of what Tony Khan is able to come up with. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 22, 2024 17:18:04 GMT -5
Joe had a sweet run
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Post by tmnt316 on Apr 22, 2024 18:17:00 GMT -5
Matches I enjoyed most
Okada/Pac - solid match
Storm/Rosa – Maybe Storm's best this current run.
Ospreay/Danielson - No doubt MOTN/possibly year but just can't say it's the greatest match of all time like some are.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Apr 22, 2024 18:35:30 GMT -5
Very good show, literally everything except acclaimed vs Bullet Club and Jericho and Hook was good to excellent.
Now i remember a few years ago when Jericho said he would wrestle til he wasn’t at the highest level anymore….well Chris…
At this point he would get more heat by letting Hook squash him, leave tv for two months, cost Hook the belt and have a cage match at double or nothing
This pitch of “I’ll take his family’s belt” we know how this goes, jericho just kicks his ass left and right for two months and then at double or nothing hook may or may not get his win back clean but still looking like a chump for two months straight…stop me if you have heard this before
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 22, 2024 18:42:30 GMT -5
I sometimes wonder how Jericho’s legacy would look had he hung it up after losing to Kevin Owens at 33.
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Post by Eric on Apr 22, 2024 20:27:57 GMT -5
Having Jericho still winning titles and not putting guys over isn't like having Sting winning the tag titles and going undefeated in AEW, but I feel like some in AEW have convinced themselves it is.
He's a true legend, and there's a place for him still, but I'm not sure why they'd have him beat Hook unless it's to pad Jericho's career stats.
Maybe there's some long-term storytelling they're doing, though. And he can't lose all the time or else beating him means nothing for the guy who goes over.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 22, 2024 20:46:13 GMT -5
Bryan vs Ospreay was a banger
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 23, 2024 2:31:22 GMT -5
Bryan vs Ospreay was a banger They definitely deserve their flowers frfr |
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Post by J-MANN on Apr 23, 2024 7:23:41 GMT -5
Bryan vs Ospreay was a banger They definitely deserve their flowers frfr It was a great match tbh |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2024 7:36:37 GMT -5
Maybe it’s me not enjoying Ospreay much, but while it was a good match no doubt… his match with Danielson didn’t do much for me. I actually enjoyed Okada/PAC more… and I think Okada is extremely overrated.
I dunno.
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X-27
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Post by X-27 on Apr 23, 2024 8:23:03 GMT -5
Now I wanna know what people put as their best or favorite matches of all time.
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fabulous1971
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Post by fabulous1971 on Apr 23, 2024 8:31:05 GMT -5
Why do you think Jericho has been given the FTW title? Because Jericho wants to think he's still the main reason that people tune into this crapshow? And he wants to be the one to hold all the titles he can everywhere so he can give himself another nickname for a t-shirt that won't sell. |
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Post by J-MANN on Apr 23, 2024 8:37:12 GMT -5
Now I wanna know what people put as their best or favorite matches of all time. My favorite match of all time is Unbreakable 2005 - Styles/Daniels/Joe |
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X-27
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Post by X-27 on Apr 23, 2024 8:38:31 GMT -5
Now I wanna know what people put as their best or favorite matches of all time. My favorite match of all time is Unbreakable 2005 - Styles/Daniels/Joe Top 4 or 5? |
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Apr 23, 2024 8:50:27 GMT -5
Now I wanna know what people put as their best or favorite matches of all time. HBK vs Razor WM 10 |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Apr 23, 2024 9:01:46 GMT -5
I thought the match was good, but definitely not top 5. Probably not even top 5 of Bryan matches for me at least.
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X-27
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Post by X-27 on Apr 23, 2024 9:02:22 GMT -5
Now I wanna know what people put as their best or favorite matches of all time. HBK vs Razor WM 10 Top 4 or 5? |
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X-27
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Post by X-27 on Apr 23, 2024 9:02:33 GMT -5
I thought the match was good, but definitely not top 5. Probably not even top 5 of Bryan matches for me at least. So...what are your top 5? |
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