personagamer
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Post by personagamer on Oct 13, 2024 13:17:31 GMT -5
The new packaging which I still love does leave it open to easier figure swaps due to ease of opening and taping it back to where it could look new in box, this has taken figure swaps to a bigger easier because they made it easy as ever, we need a change I don't care if it becomes harder to open this is unacceptable.
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 13, 2024 13:21:41 GMT -5
I think all packaging should be changed. Even ultimates, they are all the same tired red and white, let's get other colors while we're at it. Make them smaller and use glue instead of tape. Use security anti tamper tape if cant use glue.
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Post by cableV on Oct 13, 2024 13:24:56 GMT -5
I've seen an increase in stolen belts. The Elite boxes are made of tissue paper and people just reach in the top and take the belt. Same for the Showdown packs. Stop packing the belts towards the top of the boxes/carding.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 13, 2024 13:34:59 GMT -5
Bubbles like basics....it won't completely stop swaps but if you do that and have stores refuse to return damaged/open packages...it will definitely decrease the swaps
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Post by personagamer on Oct 13, 2024 13:38:17 GMT -5
Bubbles like basics....it won't completely stop swaps but if you do that and have stores refuse to return damaged/open packages...it will definitely decrease the swaps I don't understand why they put that kind of effort into basics but for the next line up all you have to do is remove the two pieces of tape from top
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Oct 13, 2024 13:45:36 GMT -5
I see tons of swaps and theft. There's a Walmart in south Nahville with probably 10 destroyed empty packages stuffed under the shelf
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Oct 13, 2024 13:55:55 GMT -5
They’ve always been easy to open.
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Post by personagamer on Oct 13, 2024 13:59:10 GMT -5
They’ve always been easy to open. just now easier than ever
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Post by MonsoonMan on Oct 13, 2024 14:00:34 GMT -5
its the return process that needs to be tightened up. honestly fig swaps just end up in the trash i have never ever seen one thats like 'oh id still pay for that figure!'
wal mart or whoever should have a sort of screening process to where an image of the figure or character pops up and the employee needs to verify the same product is being returned. itll never get to this because no one other than other collectors care about it. wal mart doesnt care, mattel doesnt care, the fig swappers dont care. it sucks becuase i have a wal mart by me that has almost 10 swapped figs sitting on the pegs and theyll never move. thats real estate for new figures or product but they rot and become a point of pride for whoever is doing this scummy stuff. then that particular wal mart runs numbers and doesnt see wwe figures moving so they limit their efforts to keep that product up to date
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Oct 13, 2024 15:33:58 GMT -5
Another issue with the packaging is blocking the bottom portion of the figure with cardboard. It affects the marketability of the figures, especially with that upcoming Kane with the new glossy laceless boots that will be blocked entirely. The change in carding felt like a reaction to Hasbro's plastic-free initiative that predictably failed miserably, so they might as well find a better solution over at Mattel. The modern Legends packaging reduces plastic and still showcases the figure decently enough - just adapt that general look over to other Elite lines.
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Post by michael41293 on Oct 13, 2024 17:00:21 GMT -5
I agree 100% the newer packaging has always been bad feels cheap and doesn’t feel premium I got the new Cody Rhodes tmnt figure recently and it has the elite 111 head scan not sure if it’s a running chase or someone switched it in store to get the original head scan
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Oct 13, 2024 18:55:27 GMT -5
Unless they switch to blister cards it will always be an issue. It always has been an issue. And even then people have managed to pull off swapping AEW figures. So it’s always gonna be an issue unless they start putting the figures in those glass cases. And that would be so annoying to have to ask a dude to unlock a figure it’s already not fun doing that for stuff behind glass as it is
But yes I would be down for the Legends packaging being the standard. At least it would be somewhat more durable then
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Post by MKSavage on Oct 13, 2024 20:25:48 GMT -5
Something tells me we will be seeing the WWE figures behind glass pretty soon - like the Legos. I don't see swaps for other brands like I do for WWE figures (and AEW figures). Unless Walmart and Target go the extra mile to stop this, nothing will change. Something they could do is if the item appears to be opened, instead of excepting the return, the buyer can only get a replacement figure (exact same one). They used to do this for DVDs back in the day. If you were returning an opened DVD, you could only replace it with the exact same DVD - you wouldn't get a refund. That might help. Other than that, the only thing they could do is have the return team become a bit more knowledgeable of the figures, or have them compare the returned figure to an image of the figure on the screen.
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Post by stargasm on Oct 14, 2024 12:12:14 GMT -5
I roughly l wouldn't mind if the elite packaging was the same as the Legends. You can at least see the entire figure
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Post by kgchampion on Oct 14, 2024 14:31:17 GMT -5
Bubbles like basics....it won't completely stop swaps but if you do that and have stores refuse to return damaged/open packages...it will definitely decrease the swaps Hell no. I have to return so many figures due to issues like fused hips, floppy ab crunches, or deformed joints from not enough plastic injected into the mold (yes, this is an issue I’ve had repeatedly in 2024). I had to return Monday Night Wars Stone Cold 2 weeks ago because there was so much plastic missing from the upper thighs of the BAF piece that the upper thigh cut popped out completely. If stores stop accepting returns, I will stop buying from that store completely. I’m not paying $23 for a defective toy and eating that cost myself.
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 14, 2024 14:36:59 GMT -5
Bubbles like basics....it won't completely stop swaps but if you do that and have stores refuse to return damaged/open packages...it will definitely decrease the swaps Hell no. I have to return so many figures due to issues like fused hips, floppy ab crunches, or deformed joints from not enough plastic injected into the mold (yes, this is an issue I’ve had repeatedly in 2024). I had to return Monday Night Wars Stone Cold 2 weeks ago because there was so much plastic missing from the upper thighs of the BAF piece that the upper thigh cut popped out completely. If stores stop accepting returns, I will stop buying from that store completely. I’m not paying $23 for a defective toy and eating that cost myself. In this case, you would contact Mattel for a voucher check to rebuy it. Keep the defective one for parts.
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Post by Flair Forever on Oct 14, 2024 15:02:02 GMT -5
I have a couple random thoughts on packaging.
* I really wish they'd kept consistently designed packaging from day one, but that horse left the barn years ago. We literally have dozens of different packaging styles in our displays now. I really do miss the clean, consistent look of the JAKKS Classic Superstars. They kept the same packaging design through the entire line.
* Recently the packaging seems really flimsy. And a few Elites that I'd like to keep "Mint-In-Box" have tears or bends on the "cardboard".... or warping..... It sucks because most stores only get one of each figure, and if the box is already beat up / torn and you want something mint you are out of luck. It's really hard to keep stuff in Mint condition when it's practically made from thick paper.
* I hate that you can't see the entire figure in the Elite box nowadays. I always worry if the accessories are even in there, or BAF parts, or whatever. I do agree that the Legends sets look best right now as you can see the whole figure. Also, I like getting stuff autographed - and now there's much less area for a wrestler to sign on.
* The stores should just stop accepting returns on these. Too many people have ruined it and like many things in life, a few bad apples spoil the bunch. That is the case here. I can honestly say in 30 years I've never tried to "return" a wrestling figure to the store. If you somehow end up with a figure you don't want/need there are plenty of outlets to sell them on these days. But how often should that really happen anyway, where you have a wrestling toy that you would "need" to return?
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Post by personagamer on Oct 14, 2024 17:05:23 GMT -5
I have a couple random thoughts on packaging. * I really wish they'd kept consistently designed packaging from day one, but that horse left the barn years ago. We literally have dozens of different packaging styles in our displays now. I really do miss the clean, consistent look of the JAKKS Classic Superstars. They kept the same packaging design through the entire line. * Recently the packaging seems really flimsy. And a few Elites that I'd like to keep "Mint-In-Box" have tears or bends on the "cardboard".... or warping..... It sucks because most stores only get one of each figure, and if the box is already beat up / torn and you want something mint you are out of luck. It's really hard to keep stuff in Mint condition when it's practically made from thick paper. * I hate that you can't see the entire figure in the Elite box nowadays. I always worry if the accessories are even in there, or BAF parts, or whatever. I do agree that the Legends sets look best right now as you can see the whole figure. Also, I like getting stuff autographed - and now there's much less area for a wrestler to sign on. * The stores should just stop accepting returns on these. Too many people have ruined it and like many things in life, a few bad apples spoil the bunch. That is the case here. I can honestly say in 30 years I've never tried to "return" a wrestling figure to the store. If you somehow end up with a figure you don't want/need there are plenty of outlets to sell them on these days. But how often should that really happen anyway, where you have a wrestling toy that you would "need" to return? I only can remember returning one figure and those were Kmart days in 2011, I bought a Elite 7 Goldust but as his arms were hidden in his jacket I didn't notice he had two left hands, wish I could have found another Goldust but I ended returning and finding a Elite 4 John Morrison
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Post by encee23 on Oct 14, 2024 17:55:18 GMT -5
I think for the latest elites they changed it to reduce the amount of plastic used. But yeah the effect of easy thefts and switches is very noticeable. A Walmart out of my usual area put everything behind a locked glass case, which was an absurd sight
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 14, 2024 17:59:59 GMT -5
I have a couple random thoughts on packaging. * I really wish they'd kept consistently designed packaging from day one, but that horse left the barn years ago. We literally have dozens of different packaging styles in our displays now. I really do miss the clean, consistent look of the JAKKS Classic Superstars. They kept the same packaging design through the entire line. * Recently the packaging seems really flimsy. And a few Elites that I'd like to keep "Mint-In-Box" have tears or bends on the "cardboard".... or warping..... It sucks because most stores only get one of each figure, and if the box is already beat up / torn and you want something mint you are out of luck. It's really hard to keep stuff in Mint condition when it's practically made from thick paper. * I hate that you can't see the entire figure in the Elite box nowadays. I always worry if the accessories are even in there, or BAF parts, or whatever. I do agree that the Legends sets look best right now as you can see the whole figure. Also, I like getting stuff autographed - and now there's much less area for a wrestler to sign on. * The stores should just stop accepting returns on these. Too many people have ruined it and like many things in life, a few bad apples spoil the bunch. That is the case here. I can honestly say in 30 years I've never tried to "return" a wrestling figure to the store. If you somehow end up with a figure you don't want/need there are plenty of outlets to sell them on these days. But how often should that really happen anyway, where you have a wrestling toy that you would "need" to return? I only can remember returning one figure and those were Kmart days in 2011, I bought a Elite 7 Goldust but as his arms were hidden in his jacket I didn't notice he had two left hands, wish I could have found another Goldust but I ended returning and finding a Elite 4 John Morrison I think part of the problem with swappers, is that they are returning them "never opened" instead of saying defective. So they put the "never opened" figures back on the shelf not thinking anything of it. Nothing wrong with returning a defective figure, and actually SAYING it's defective. But again, it's one of those "bad apples ruins it for everyone" situation.
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