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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 15:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by zombiesx on Oct 17, 2007 15:24:51 GMT -5
not sure I understand but I added on to the list
1. Chris Hero 2. Mike Quackenbush 3. Claudio Castagnoli 4. Larry Sweeney 5. Jigsaw 6. Hallowicked 7. Eddie Kingston 8. Chuck Taylor 9. Drake Younger 10. Nigel McGuiness 11. Davey Richards 12. Austin Aries 13. Roderick Strong 14. Jack Evans 15. Jimmy Jacobs 16. Tyler Black 17. Kevin Steen 18. El Generico 19. PAC 20. Erick Stevens 21. Super Dragon 22. Human Tornado 23. Ruckus 24. Bryan Danielson 25. Morishima 26. BJ Whitmer 27. Sterling James Keenan 28. Kenta 29.Ultimo Dragon 30.JC Bailey 31.Nick Mondo 32.Mad Man Pondo 33. Matt cross 34. wifebeater 35. Jimmy Jacobs 36. Necro Butcher 37. Zandig 38. Rudeboy 39. Justin Credible 40. Mistico 41. La Parka 42. Vampiro 43. Shaggy 2 dope 44. Violent Jay 45. Terry Funk 46. Lex Luger 47. Disco Inferno 48. Buff Bagwell 49. sexxxy eddie 50. Nick Gage 51. Heavy Metal 52. Amazeing Red 53. Kid Kash 54. CW Anderson 55. Messiah 56. Ian Rotten 57.Kaos 58.Ron Zombie 59. Steve Corino 60. Nova
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 15:27:15 GMT -5
not sure I understand but I added on to the list 1. Chris Hero 2. Mike Quackenbush 3. Claudio Castagnoli 4. Larry Sweeney 5. Jigsaw 6. Hallowicked 7. Eddie Kingston 8. Chuck Taylor 9. Drake Younger 10. Nigel McGuiness 11. Davey Richards 12. Austin Aries 13. Roderick Strong 14. Jack Evans 15. Jimmy Jacobs 16. Tyler Black 17. Kevin Steen 18. El Generico 19. PAC 20. Erick Stevens 21. Super Dragon 22. Human Tornado 23. Ruckus 24. Bryan Danielson 25. Morishima 26. BJ Whitmer 27. Sterling James Keenan 28. Kenta 29.Ultimo Dragon 30.JC Bailey 31.Nick Mondo 32.Mad Man Pondo 33. Matt cross 34. wifebeater 35. Jimmy Jacobs 36. Necro Butcher 37. Zandig 38. Rudeboy 39. Justin Credible 40.Mistico Mondo doesnt wrestle anymore. Guys like Bailey, Pondo, Zandig, Rudeboy are all awful basic deathmatch workers only.
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Post by Juba on Oct 17, 2007 15:27:16 GMT -5
kenta and marafuji?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 15:29:27 GMT -5
Was looking to avoid the Japanese workers and concentrate more on people who work a lot of American shows.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 15:36:19 GMT -5
I have the 32 listed. We will take no more than 32. If there is someone you feel needs to be in this tourney......say now or forever hold your peace.
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Post by Bon on Oct 17, 2007 16:31:23 GMT -5
personally I think Romero, Abercrombie, and Acid should be on there also Bosh, although Idunno if he'd count, being on hiatus and what not. I'd knock off Stevens for one of them. and I guess Roc and Moore, but that's just because I haven't seen much of them, so that's not fair Idunno, that's just my opinions on it
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 18:04:01 GMT -5
personally I think Romero, Abercrombie, and Acid should be on there also Bosh, although Idunno if he'd count, being on hiatus and what not. I'd knock off Stevens for one of them. and I guess Roc and Moore, but that's just because I haven't seen much of them, so that's not fair Idunno, that's just my opinions on it Abercrombie, maybe. Bosh, if he wasnt on hiatus. But not Romero, as he doesnt work much off the west coast. And not Acid b/c Moore is a better performer than Acid.
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Post by Juba on Oct 17, 2007 18:20:59 GMT -5
im not sure stevens should be up there
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 18:46:44 GMT -5
im not sure stevens should be up there Any suggestions then?
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Post by slappy on Oct 17, 2007 18:51:20 GMT -5
Why would it matter if he is on hiatus or a guy only works on one coast? If he is the best, he is the best, doesn't matter where they are now.
If you don't accept them, then it's not really an ultimate indy wrestler tournament.
Change it to "WF's Ultimate Active American Both Coast Working Indy Wrestler Tournament."
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Post by Bon on Oct 17, 2007 19:05:49 GMT -5
personally I think Romero, Abercrombie, and Acid should be on there also Bosh, although Idunno if he'd count, being on hiatus and what not. I'd knock off Stevens for one of them. and I guess Roc and Moore, but that's just because I haven't seen much of them, so that's not fair Idunno, that's just my opinions on it Abercrombie, maybe. Bosh, if he wasnt on hiatus. But not Romero, as he doesnt work much off the west coast. And not Acid b/c Moore is a better performer than Acid. ok I don't really understand the logic on Romero, since it's still the States, and on Acid/Moore, like I said, I haven't, seen him before, so I'll take your word for it.
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Post by head2 on Oct 17, 2007 19:12:29 GMT -5
JC Bailey is decent. He can wrestle non-death matches in IWA-MS.
I think you should add JC Bailey, CJ Otis, Terry Hart (hes coming back since he got fired), Morishima (i think hes a fat sack of crap, but alot of people like him and he should be on there since he is on alot of ROH cards), Roderick Strong, Jimmy Rave too.
If Necro is on there, Bailey should be on there too.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 19:21:39 GMT -5
Why would it matter if he is on hiatus or a guy only works on one coast? If he is the best, he is the best, doesn't matter where they are now. If you don't accept them, then it's not really an ultimate indy wrestler tournament. Change it to "WF's Ultimate Active American Both Coast Working Indy Wrestler Tournament." Its kind of hard to be the ultimate indy wrestler if you arent actually wrestling. By that logic we should include guys like Joe, Lethal, Sabin, etc. If he aint active.....he aint getting a spot. I think that only makes sense. I mean, how do we compare his current body of work to others. You cant. Abercrombie, maybe. Bosh, if he wasnt on hiatus. But not Romero, as he doesnt work much off the west coast. And not Acid b/c Moore is a better performer than Acid. ok I don't really understand the logic on Romero, since it's still the States, and on Acid/Moore, like I said, I haven't, seen him before, so I'll take your word for it. The logic on Romero is that he doesnt get enough work to be included in the top 32 list. I'd love to include The Messiah, but cant really cuz he doesnt work enough on the indys. Does anyone truly disagree with these ideas? As far as Devon Moore......you gotta check out his feud with Trent Acid from PWU. Some killer stuff there.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 19:23:54 GMT -5
JC Bailey is decent. He can wrestle non-death matches in IWA-MS. I think you should add JC Bailey, CJ Otis, Terry Hart (hes coming back since he got fired), Morishima (i think hes a fat sack of crap, but alot of people like him and he should be on there since he is on alot of ROH cards), Roderick Strong, Jimmy Rave too. If Necro is on there, Bailey should be on there too. I dont see how Bailey deserves a spot over Necro. CJ Otis? Man, he is awful. Teddy Hart should becoming back at some point.....but we have no current body of work for him. Morishima could definitely be added and I had him on there originally, but pulled him off cuz I dont know his status with ROH right now. Anyone clarify it? Strong is on the list. Jimmy Rave is a TNA worker.
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Post by head2 on Oct 17, 2007 19:34:34 GMT -5
Its on ROH that hes going to wrestle at Glory By Honor VI, so I presume he is still in ROH.
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Post by head2 on Oct 17, 2007 19:35:52 GMT -5
How about the Hangmen 3? (Adam Pearce, Brent Albright & BJ Whitmer)
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 17, 2007 19:36:53 GMT -5
How about the Hangmen 3? (Adam Pearce, Brent Albright & BJ Whitmer) I'm definitely with you on Albright. But who could we remove for the others?
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Post by head2 on Oct 17, 2007 19:40:23 GMT -5
Id say Sterling James Keenan and Davey Richards. I havent seen much of Keenan and though Davey is a superb wrestler, Im not sure he should be in the contendership for "Best indy Wrestler" just yet.
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Post by head2 on Oct 17, 2007 19:41:53 GMT -5
btw, where has Kevin Steen been? He was recently dropped from CZW, and I havent heard much from him.
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