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Post by therealjswo on Jan 20, 2008 23:17:49 GMT -5
I find it funny a bunch of the JAPW board regulars are posting here now. If there was a way to bring down this place any further, that was it. I didn't think it was an amazing show but it was still a good show and that's all I billed this JAPW show as. A good show because there was 4 VERY good matches and some average matches. It wasn't as good as the last two shows but it was still a great show. Your not gonna have an amazing show everytime. I'm willing to bet Ki/Hernandez was good, and the 3 way was your generic Teddy Hart brawl, so other then that I see nothing here. I'm waiting for an original concept from JAPW. A new faction that dominates, a hot angle, something that can draw me in. Matches I've seen before and NJ indy workers aren't getting anywhere. Ki/Hernandez might have been done in IWA-MS but Ki/Hernandez was built up much better rather than IWA-MS just throwing together a dream match for the sake of doing it. This was built up for 4 long matches and I still don't think it's done. Plus the match told a great story. Eh, IWA TX had challengers coming to Hernandez so they could build him up to their title. It's different from Mid-South. Lethal/Hero I don't remember ever happening anywhere. Azrieal/Bandido same thing, Bandido has some a long way from his La Familia days. The guy is one of the best light heavyweights out there and has the underdog upset role going for him. Uh, not even in the same country. Xavier/Dutt, Archadia/Reefer & Demanto/Storm hasn't been done anywhere else either so I don't know what isn't "original" on the show. You missed my point. Generic indy spot matches like I know Archadia and Reefer do are all one in the same even if they haven't matched up. Demanto is Demanto, the guy is just awful. He gets go away heat and not you suck you're a heel heat. I mean so what if Ki/Hernandez happened in IWA-MS first? Hero/Claudio happened in Chikara many times before it happened in ROH. But the ROH match had an original angle behind it. I don't care if they do a match someone else has done I want to see something fresh with a twist. Original concepts sell dvds and more importantly put asses in seats. JAPW did its best business with Teddy/Cide on top. Trying to rehash it isn't going to do the same. I was throwing in anyone who is a regular for the company. I know you don't like Demanto but he's one of the most over guys on the roster and always has a good outing. He's come a long way over the last few months. His match with Devon Storm at the Anniversary Show and his match with Kenny Omega at Calm Before The Storm was very good. I saw the 10AS match and remember it quite well. I thought it was quite disasterous. Storm has slowed down and Demanto is Demanto. Secondly, Kenny Omega is getting better, but right now I'd put him where 2005 Azrieal was. Samoa Joe doesn't do much, you're right but he hasn't been booked and I doubt he will be. We got a few outings from him and thats all we needed. As much as I like Samoa Joe out of my list I will agree he's the least favorite I would like to see. AJ Styles is fun to see on the indys because you aren't gonna see matches like AJ Styles vs Chris Hero in TNA. Human Tornado is always entertaining no matter what he's doing and there is plenty of good matches he can have in JAPW. Ruckus, Sabian & Joker all had great outings at the 10th Anniversary Show and I really hope there is more of them in JAPW. Joker is gone from all of wrestling due to his military commitments. Ruckus has an ROH contract so I'm not sure if Frank will want to use him. Human Tornado will likely receive one when he heads out east for the LI/6AS double shot. My main distate for JAPW comes from them doing nothing fresh. ROH broke out from the pack when they did the anti-hand shake angle with Daniels & his crew. JAPW set themselves apart with the reality based Hart/Cide angle. Bringing in a BLK Out group isn't original. Rehashing Teddy and Homicide isn't original. Frank needs to sit back and find a niche for the company. Being generic indy #133 isn't what I'd strive for. IWA MS is running less shows, why not give guys like Chuck Taylor, Billy Roc, Mickie Knuckles, Deranged, Sexxxy Eddy, a shot? JAPW needs to solidify the undercard and main event because if TNA runs more house shows Hernandez, Homicide, Lethal, Joe, Styles, etc. are out. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 21, 2008 0:04:49 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with JAPW fans posting on this board other than the fact that your arguments will probably get out numbered.
One of the problems many people had with JAPW in early 2007 was that there wasn't enough angles. That has since changed as their is plenty of things going on right now.
Have you seen Archadia/Reefer at Back To Business. That has great pyshology in it if you pay attention with one trying to up the other. Since then the feud has gotten personal because Reefer got the best of Archadia and in order for Archadia to get another shot and get noticed was to attack Reefer. Since then Archadia has robbed Reefer twice out of the NJ State Title. When a feud gets personal you start to see them take it to each other. If someone hates you why are they gonna exchange holds with you when they can make it more believable and beat you down? The match last night was not a spot fest. I remember seeing one flip the whole match. It was mostly Archadia playing off the crowd and doing anything he can to beat Reefer. Archadia now has a bodyguard in DJ Hyde to protect him from Reefer.
Do you even know the angle between Ki/Hernandez or do I need to explain? Hernandez pinned Ki at Calm Before The Storm in a tag match. Since then a match was made between Homicide & Ki for the JAPW Title since they are the two icons in JAPW. Homicide defeated Low Ki only for Teddy Hart to make his surprise return and lay out Homicide putting Ki on top of him. Since then the SST hasn't been the same because Low Ki has always been known as a man who does things on his own and needs help from nobody. Low Ki is a man of respect and the way he got back the title has caused problems in the SST. Hernandez finally got his title shot and dominated Ki for most of the match before Ki made a huge come back and defeated Hernandez in his toughest match yet. After the show Low Ki was laid out but it hasn't been said by who. While the SST are having their problems Kingston & Teddy Hart are both out to take out Homicide and each other if needed to show they are on top of JAPW and they want the spot light. It's not that easy to figure out if you follow the DVD's, world wides and press releases.
2005 Azrieal is also the same guy who had great matches with B-Boy & Archadia. Since then yes he has upped his game but 2005 Azrieal isn't something I'd complain about. I do think the comparison of Kenny Omega being a 2005 Azrieal is a good one though.
As far as Demanto & Storm from the Anniversary show. Everyone seemed to love it so I guess you are in the minority. And of course Storm is gonna be slowed down but he never phones it in like other veterans on the indy scene. Every indy could use a veteran to help out the younger guys.
When Joker does return I would love to see him back. I really enjoy his work. He reminds me a lot of B-Boy. Ruckus I don't think Frank will have a problem using. It's not so much the fact that he is a ROH contracted worker but the fact that he gets so many other bookings not only in ROH but also CZW & UWA hardcore. If Human Tornado does get a ROH contract, which I'm sure he will sometime this year I do still believe Frank will use him here and there.
A lot of angles are happening right now which is what everyone asked for. Homicide/Teddy will never die. Will it ever be as good as the first time? Of course not, but Homicide/Teddy will always be enemies and it never will change.
I've been hearing that for 3 years from you now. Yes TNA is running more house shows but JAPW only runs shows once a month so there shouldn't be a problem. JAPW has plenty of dates this year where their guys are booked. I do agree with bringing back Chuck Taylor as does most of the message board. While I'm not his biggest fan I would like to see the man back in JAPW. I would also like to see Sal Rinuaro & Seth Delay booked more regularly. I was impressed with their two outings but what many people don't realize is JAPW has a certain budget they can't go over. JAPW already flys in Teddy Hart, Hernandez & Frankie Kazarian regularly. Add in a AJ Styles, Human Tornado, Kenny Omega or Sonjay Dutt and that is already 7 fly ins. That is a big reason JAPW uses a lot of local talent but it's good local talent that is over even though your not a fan of them, again you're in the minority. Homicide, Low Ki, Eddie Kingston, Chris Hero, Jay Lethal, Azrieal, Archadia, Reefer, Demanto, Slyck Wagner Brown, Devon Storm, Xavier, Mack, Havoc & Bandido Jr are all luckily local for JAPW.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2008 1:28:42 GMT -5
You missed my point. Generic indy spot matches like I know Archadia and Reefer do are all one in the same even if they haven't matched up. Demanto is Demanto, the guy is just awful. He gets go away heat and not you suck you're a heel heat. As a fan of JAPW and a regular that attends shows, this comment and I am sure that undisputed and others that go to the shows can back up my statment and observation. Your comment about Demanto shows you have no clue about the JAPW product and what is taking place. It is very easy to critisize and complain when obviously you have another agenda. Demanto is a fan favorite, gets a great reaction, and is appreciated and loved by the fans. The go away heat and heel heat comment was a direct opposite of what he recieves and is basically a made up assumption of what you think goes on. JAPW utilizes the best mix of fly in and local talent, better than any company out their today. JAPW may not be the indy darlings like some others but they far exceed 99 percent of other shows. It is amazing how you can continue to rip shows that you never see. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 22, 2008 1:46:01 GMT -5
Haha, yeah I found it funny that JSWO said Demanto gets "go away heat" when he's a fan favorite in JAPW and gets one of the biggest pops. I do back up I Am The Real's statement when he says that JSWO has no idea what he's talking about and I've been saying that for months now. The little things that JSWO says proves that he doesn't follow JAPW. Not everyone here picks it up because they don't follow JAPW regularly but I'm glad to see other fans that do notice that JSWO talks out his ass.
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 22, 2008 17:52:31 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with JAPW fans posting on this board other than the fact that your arguments will probably get out numbered. It's not that my points will be out numbered, it's that they will go ignored for the sake of WE LOVE JAPW, YEAH!!!! One of the problems many people had with JAPW in early 2007 was that there wasn't enough angles. That has since changed as their is plenty of things going on right now. Agreed there are lots of angles going on, but do those angles do anything that can't be seen elsewhere? Have you seen Archadia/Reefer at Back To Business. That has great pyshology in it if you pay attention with one trying to up the other. Since then the feud has gotten personal because Reefer got the best of Archadia and in order for Archadia to get another shot and get noticed was to attack Reefer. Since then Archadia has robbed Reefer twice out of the NJ State Title. When a feud gets personal you start to see them take it to each other. If someone hates you why are they gonna exchange holds with you when they can make it more believable and beat you down? The match last night was not a spot fest. I remember seeing one flip the whole match. It was mostly Archadia playing off the crowd and doing anything he can to beat Reefer. Archadia now has a bodyguard in DJ Hyde to protect him from Reefer. I honestly don't recall the match at all. I have the DVD sitting here but can't say one way or another. If I get the chance I'll try and watch it. Do you even know the angle between Ki/Hernandez or do I need to explain? Hernandez pinned Ki at Calm Before The Storm in a tag match. Since then a match was made between Homicide & Ki for the JAPW Title since they are the two icons in JAPW. Homicide defeated Low Ki only for Teddy Hart to make his surprise return and lay out Homicide putting Ki on top of him. Since then the SST hasn't been the same because Low Ki has always been known as a man who does things on his own and needs help from nobody. Low Ki is a man of respect and the way he got back the title has caused problems in the SST. Hernandez finally got his title shot and dominated Ki for most of the match before Ki made a huge come back and defeated Hernandez in his toughest match yet. After the show Low Ki was laid out but it hasn't been said by who. While the SST are having their problems Kingston & Teddy Hart are both out to take out Homicide and each other if needed to show they are on top of JAPW and they want the spot light. It's not that easy to figure out if you follow the DVD's, world wides and press releases. The inconsistancy of World Wide doesn't help much in following angles. Now, in regards to Ki/Hernandez, yes I do know what the angle is all about. What would you say to exchanging Hernandez for Low Ki in the near future in that angle. Nobody has really ever done Ki vs. Kingston and it would be a great match. When I look at JAPW I look at missed opportunities. They always go for matches that have either been done elsewhere or would be ones the fans want. The fans of the company would buy the disc for King/Ki and if there was a hot angle behind it the live crowd would like it as well. JAPW needs to look at things differently if they choose to build themselves up from where they are now. 2005 Azrieal is also the same guy who has great matches with B-Boy & Archadia. Since then yes he has upped his game but 2005 Azrieal isn't something I'd complain about. I do think the comparison of Kenny Omega being a 2005 Azrieal is a good one though. Azrieal in 2005 was a solid wrestler who was looking for a purpose. He did nothing unique but always had a solid match. As far as Demanto & Storm from the Anniversary show. Everyone seemed to love it so I guess you are in the minority. And of course Storm is gonna be slowed down but he never phones it in like other veterans on the indy scene. Every indy could use a veteran to help out the younger guys. I know Storm is local so it's easy to use him. What vets phoning it in are you refferring to? When Joker does return I would love to see him back. I really enjoy his work. He reminds me a lot of B-Boy. Ruckus I don't think Frank will have a problem using. It's not so much the fact that he is a ROH contracted worker but the fact that he gets so many other bookings not only in ROH but also CZW & UWA hardcore. If Human Tornado does get a ROH contract, which I'm sure he will sometime this year I do still believe Frank will use him here and there. I think Ruckus is done with UWA because he no showed the last event. Before I mentioned missed opportunities, Tornado should have been used and featured far more then he was. A lot of angles are happening right now which is what everyone asked for. Homicide/Teddy will never die. Will it ever be as good as the first time? Of course not, but Homicide/Teddy will always be enemies and it never will change. That's why I'd switch the focus from Cide/Teddy to Cide & Hernandez vs. Teddy &  ? Then do King/Ki and my secondary feud would be Lethal/Demanto since the JAPW fans love both guys so much. I've been hearing that for 3 years from you now. Yes TNA is running more house shows but JAPW only runs shows once a month so there shouldn't be a problem. JAPW has plenty of dates this year where their guys are booked. However if TNA chooses to run a house show tour they can and will pull those guys from JAPW. It sucks when that happens. I announced at a show where both Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley were announced to appear but got pulled due to TNA running a house show. I do agree with bringing back Chuck Taylor as does most of the message board. While I'm not his biggest fan I would like to see the man back in JAPW. I would also like to see Sal Rinuaro & Seth Delay booked more regularly. I was impressed with their two outings but what many people don't realize is JAPW has a certain budget they can't go over. Chuck would be driving as he drives out for CHIKARA and CZW(when he's there). Rinauro is great and I think if the YRR is booked in ROH you won't see him much at JAPW. Until then Frank should use him a lot. Delay is alright, I've not seen a ton of his stuff though. JAPW already flys in Teddy Hart, Hernandez & Frankie Kazarian regularly. Add in a AJ Styles, Human Tornado, Kenny Omega or Sonjay Dutt and that is already 7 fly ins. Where does Omega live? Dutt lives in Virginia or Maryland he can't drive? The Canadian guys would drive down, that would include Max Boyer, Sexxxy Eddy, Steen, Generico, etc. Plus you could also have the midwest crew drive out including Taylor, Roc, Ricochet, etc who drive out for CHIKARA/CZW. That is a big reason JAPW uses a lot of local talent but it's good local talent that is over even though your not a fan of them, again you're in the minority. Homicide, Low Ki, Eddie Kingston, Chris Hero, Jay Lethal, Azrieal, Archadia, Reefer, Demanto, Slyck Wagner Brown, Devon Storm, Xavier, Mack, Havoc & Bandido Jr are all luckily local for JAPW. Here's 22 guys JAPW could run a show with and not kill their budget. 1. Mike Quackenbush 2. Chris Hero 3. Delirious 4. Max Boyer 5. Chuck Taylor 6. Ricochet 7. Monsta Mack 8. Azrieal 9. Jay Lethal 10. Eddie Kingston 11. Billy Roc 12. Drake Younger 13. Teddy Hart14. Archadia 15. DJ Hyde 16. Danny Demanto 17. Sexxxy Eddy 18. Low Ki 19. Hallowicked 20. Hernandez21. Xavier 22. Homicide 23. Devon Storm 24. Human Tornado24 guys, 3 fly-ins, all of the champions, and plenty of talented wrestlers both local and name talent. Lot's of really unique angles that could be done with that crew. Ki/King, Tornado/Hart, Hyde/Archadia vs. Younger/Eddy. 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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 22, 2008 18:47:06 GMT -5
Time will tell. We will see if attendance stays up. My guess would be yes. A lot of people seem to be happy with JAPW right now. World Wide is back full time. The last two were just countdowns to the upcoming shows which actually did help a lot as their were a ton of promos done that helped further storylines. Starting this Saturday JAPW World Wide will be running, I do believe by weekly. Daniels phoned things in for quite awhile in ROH. Storm always works hard to put over young talent. He's great for the locker room even if he is slowed down. If Ruckus is done with UWA then that makes it better for JAPW. Frank said BLK OUT isn't done in JAPW so I assume he's got them down for some dates to build something. Time will tell. To be honest with you, I think that is where they are going now. Ki was "attacked" after the show and something will up on that later this week. I'm hoping it's Kingston. What better way to make him an bunghole heel then to jump a worn out man who just beat someone twice his size? I do also believe that we will see LAX vs Teddy & . I heard Teddy cutting a promo after the show talking about him bringing Jack Evans back but I don't know if he was just rambling like he often does or if there is plans to use Jack Evans again to team with Teddy. If not Jack, I do agree that it should be LAX vs Teddy and someone else. I would say Ruckus, but he's part of BLK OUT. I do agree that JAPW should use Rinauro while they can. Not sure why they aren't. His last two outings were really good. With the YRR getting a win in Edison, I do believe that they will be getting more bookings in ROH. Omega lives in Winnipeg. Dutt I had assumed was a fly in but maybe not. The Canadian guys aren't used anymore because they can't build around them not that Generico & Steen are in ROH. I would like to see Chuck Taylor & Ricochet back. Again not sure why they aren't still used. I'm not a fan of Roc, Sexxxy Eddy was never a big deal in JAPW and I haven't seen Max Boyer but have heard good things. I thought Quack cut back on indys? I would like to see him in JAPW though. Hallowicked would be fine as well and I would like to see Drake Younger back. I was a fan of his match with Eddie Kingston. Tornado I'd love to see as much as the next guy but he gets a lot of bookings out in Cali as well as many other places. Also names you didn't include are Frankie Kazarian, Kenny Omega, Grim Reefer & Bandido Jr who are all really over and big parts of JAPW. JAPW isn't gonna stop using those guys. Tornado/Hart would be a fun feud but since Teddy is tied up right now I would rather see a Jay Lethal vs Tornado feud. Archadia/Hyde should feud with Reefer & someone else. Not sure who though. Maybe Jay Lover since he tags with him in lower level indys like ACE and soon JSW(JAPW's sister promotion). |
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 22, 2008 21:36:31 GMT -5
Time will tell. We will see if attendance stays up. My guess would be yes. A lot of people seem to be happy with JAPW right now. JAPW would be better off booking great angles for dvds to sell. You'd make more off of DVD sales which increases exposure and on top of that will get a lot more people interested in following the company. World Wide is back full time. The last two were just countdowns to the upcoming shows which actually did help a lot as their were a ton of promos done that helped further storylines. Starting this Saturday JAPW World Wide will be running, I do believe by weekly. I've heard that before and it was never consistant. So unless the modtrom crew is gone I doubt it stays current. Daniels phoned things in for quite awhile in ROH. Storm always works hard to put over young talent. He's great for the locker room even if he is slowed down. Daniels doesn't phone things in, he just does the same crapover and over. As do most of the guys who get older and need to stay healthy. If Ruckus is done with UWA then that makes it better for JAPW. Frank said BLK OUT isn't done in JAPW so I assume he's got them down for some dates to build something. Time will tell. Which BLK Out is he referring to? His SWB version or the real version? To be honest with you, I think that is where they are going now. Ki was "attacked" after the show and something will up on that later this week. I'm hoping it's Kingston. What better way to make him an bunghole heel then to jump a worn out man who just beat someone twice his size? I do also believe that we will see LAX vs Teddy & . I heard Teddy cutting a promo after the show talking about him bringing Jack Evans back but I don't know if he was just rambling like he often does or if there is plans to use Jack Evans again to team with Teddy. If not Jack, I do agree that it should be LAX vs Teddy and someone else. I would say Ruckus, but he's part of BLK OUT. Jack's back with Dragon Gate more often now so I'm not sure if he'll be open. Plus Jack has some other issues right now he's working on clearing up. Teddy should team with someone who he's not friends with. That way he's not going to end a friendship by going into business for himself. I'm not sure how much you're around Teddy at shows but he's still out of his mind, and that's a shame. I do agree that JAPW should use Rinauro while they can. Not sure why they aren't. His last two outings were really good. With the YRR getting a win in Edison, I do believe that they will be getting more bookings in ROH. Yup, with the ROH guys doing NOAH tours more often this year you'll see the YRR more from what I understand. Omega lives in Winnipeg. Dutt I had assumed was a fly in but maybe not. The Canadian guys aren't used anymore because they can't build around them not that Generico & Steen are in ROH. I would like to see Chuck Taylor & Ricochet back. Again not sure why they aren't still used. I'm not a fan of Roc, Sexxxy Eddy was never a big deal in JAPW and I haven't seen Max Boyer but have heard good things. Eddy's great, and he's charismatic enough to build around. In fact that's the perfect partner for Teddy. Boyer is a Benoit type wrestler with increasing charisma. He'd fit in just as Harry Smith and TJ Wilson did. I thought Quack cut back on indys? I would like to see him in JAPW though. Hallowicked would be fine as well and I would like to see Drake Younger back. I was a fan of his match with Eddie Kingston. Tornado I'd love to see as much as the next guy but he gets a lot of bookings out in Cali as well as many other places. Also names you didn't include are Frankie Kazarian, Kenny Omega, Grim Reefer & Bandido Jr who are all really over and big parts of JAPW. JAPW isn't gonna stop using those guys. Quack will work when he wants, but between ROH and CHIKARA as well as the NWA who knows if he'll be open to it. I think he's the perfect babyface chasing the belt from a heel Kingston that JAPW's audience would go nuts for. I didn't include Kazarian because I think he's quite boring. What's his gimmick? A wrestler who can be cocky? Omega's off because he's just not someone I'd feature. Reefer is awful so he's out, and Bandido Jr. is someone I'd probably put on a pre-show match. I chose to upgrade and cut the fat. I came up with a deeper roster that will save the company money. I highly doubt Kazarian is putting asses in seats or dvds in dvd players for JAPW. Tornado/Hart would be a fun feud but since Teddy is tied up right now I would rather see a Jay Lethal vs Tornado feud. Archadia/Hyde should feud with Reefer & someone else. Not sure who though. Maybe Jay Lover since he tags with him in lower level indys like ACE and soon JSW(JAPW's sister promotion). I'd book Lethal right now as his TNA gimmick but instead of being Black Machismo, he's the Machismo King. A heel Randy Savage working the babyfaces. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 22, 2008 22:33:34 GMT -5
JAPW might sell more DVD's that way, which I would love to see but JAPW has never been a smart mark promotion.
Daniels matches were never that great in the ring and as people have said when he was still working ROH, to steal a quote from Nigel Mcguiness, Daniels never looked like he was in the match to win it.
The Original crew I do believe as that was the one being talked about. Slyck will still be a part of it. He's kind of Kingston's right hand man and he works very well with him.
Teddy does need somebody the question is just a matter of who. It would likely have to be a fly in. PAC would be a good choice but I don't know if JAPW would wanna fly in someone from the UK.
As far as me being around Teddy at shows, I'm usually one of the last people out so I often here Teddy Hart rambling about things. Yes, he is indeed out of his mind. I will be the first to say it but Teddy is Teddy and he's never gonna change, unfortunately.
Sexxxy Eddy is a good talent but he really never did anything worthy in JAPW so I don't know how serious he could be taken as Teddy's partner in a top feud.
Yeah, I don't think Quack is really a guy JAPW could use because he gets a lot of bookings. Frankie, Omega, Reefer & Bandido are over so they aren't going anywhere. I know you don't like them but again you're in the minority.
That is actually a great idea and one I had to post on the message board. I would like to see it. Lethal needs something new and fresh.
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 24, 2008 17:46:16 GMT -5
JAPW might sell more DVD's that way, which I would love to see but JAPW has never been a smart mark promotion. You don't have to be a smart mark promotion to sell dvds. You do however have to be a smart promotion with a quality product. Daniels matches were never that great in the ring and as people have said when he was still working ROH, to steal a quote from Nigel Mcguiness, Daniels never looked like he was in the match to win it. He had several great matches over the years but his age and body were really hurting him over the last year at ROH. That's why he took so much time off from TNA, and TNA came up with the write off angle for him many months back. His Curry Man gimmick will hopefully allow him to take less bumps. The Original crew I do believe as that was the one being talked about. Slyck will still be a part of it. He's kind of Kingston's right hand man and he works very well with him. Slyck's only there due to his friendship with Frank, not because of his talents. Teddy does need somebody the question is just a matter of who. It would likely have to be a fly in. PAC would be a good choice but I don't know if JAPW would wanna fly in someone from the UK. Apparantly PAC has visa issues, and quite frankly I think he's got talent issues as well. As far as me being around Teddy at shows, I'm usually one of the last people out so I often here Teddy Hart rambling about things. Yes, he is indeed out of his mind. I will be the first to say it but Teddy is Teddy and he's never gonna change, unfortunately. That's terribly sad. It's all about what you've done for me lately. Did Erick Stevens do anything in ROH before fans took him seriously? Nope. It's all about how he's booked, and if Frank can't book Eddy for the fans to take him seriously then he's a terrible booker. Low Ki was over in ROH but he's attitude and demands weren't worth keeping around. In fact I'd say Ki was more valuable to ROH when he was fired then Frankie, Omega, Reefer, & Bandido Jr combined are to JAPW. None of them put asses in seats or sell dvds. That's what the business is all about. I came up with the idea while joking around with some wrestlers at a show recently. I didn't think it was a serious idea until they started saying it would work out great. I guess I was wrong. |
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Post by The UndyTaker on Jan 24, 2008 18:28:46 GMT -5
Hey. I heard the JAPW from Friday of this past week was really good. I was thinking about going to a show. What do I need to know: champs, feuds, etc?
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 24, 2008 20:22:42 GMT -5
Hey. I heard the JAPW from Friday of this past week was really good. I was thinking about going to a show. What do I need to know: champs, feuds, etc? I don't know how close you are to where they run but they will be back in Jersey City on March 8th and in Rahway on Feb 16th. The current champs are: JAPW Heavyweight Champion- Low Ki JAPW Tag Team Champions- LAX JAPW NJ State Champion Archadia current feuds include Teddy Hart/Homicide at the same time Eddie Kingston is involved because he feels Homicide's time in JAPW is up and he feels that Teddy Hart coming back is taking away his time to shine. The Heavy Hitters Havok & Mack are being built up for what looks like a future tag title match with LAX. Low Ki has been having problems with his former Strong Style Thug stable mates in Homicide & Hernandez. Archadia & Grim Reefer are feuding over the NJ State Champion. Archadia robbed Reefer twice out of the title and Reefer is looking for revenge. I suggest you check out the post I made on here it's either far down on the first page or on the second page. It's called JAPW Reclaiming Hudson countdown. It will fill you in on all the storylines and what not. Or you can go to youtube or daily motion and search the newest world wide episodes on there and that will fill you in as well. If you have anymore questions you can go to japw.net and join the message board. Oh and by the way JSWO, I don't feel like quoting everything right now but if Slyck were only there because he's friends with Frank how come he wasn't there for the last 3 years then? Also how come he's not getting much of a push. He's Kingston's right hand man, nothing more. He hasn't even won any matches as of late. |
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 24, 2008 20:32:01 GMT -5
Oh and by the way JSWO, I don't feel like quoting everything right now but if Slyck were only there because he's friends with Frank how come he wasn't there for the last 3 years then? Also how come he's not getting much of a push. He's Kingston's right hand man, nothing more. He hasn't even won any matches as of late. Beating your girlfriend and domestic violence convictions would lead me to not use a guy either. |
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Post by kingofgoreobo on Jan 24, 2008 20:40:28 GMT -5
these JAPW fights are so lame and make the whole board look intellectually- disabled
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 24, 2008 20:50:27 GMT -5
Oh and by the way JSWO, I don't feel like quoting everything right now but if Slyck were only there because he's friends with Frank how come he wasn't there for the last 3 years then? Also how come he's not getting much of a push. He's Kingston's right hand man, nothing more. He hasn't even won any matches as of late. Beating your girlfriend and domestic violence convictions would lead me to not use a guy either. I do think Slyck is a scumbag but Frank isn't the first guy to use someone who beat a women. Didn't Necro Butcher beat up a women about two years ago? Plus it's not like these death match guys IWA-MS and CZW use are perfect either. Oh and by the way, Slyck is more of Homicide's friend then he is Frank's friend. these JAPW fights are so lame and make the whole board look intellectually- disabled What board? Other than myself, JSWO, Showstopper, Lennon, HHH316 & Francise everyone else is a WWE mark that visits this board with no real clue on indy wrestling. The board already looks intellectually- disabled. |
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 24, 2008 21:33:06 GMT -5
these JAPW fights are so lame and make the whole board look intellectually- disabled I guess having a convicted crack user and currently incarcerated fellon in your avatar makes you the living embodiment of excellence? I do think Slyck is a scumbag but Frank isn't the first guy to use someone who beat a women. Didn't Necro Butcher beat up a women about two years ago? Plus it's not like these death match guys IWA-MS and CZW use are perfect either. Oh and by the way, Slyck is more of Homicide's friend then he is Frank's friend. I'm not sure about that Necro story at all. You might be referring to a match with him and Lufisto in which he broke his hand punching her in the face. JC Bailey is pretty much the king of indy scum, but I'd group him in with a domestic abuser like Slyck. I'm not sure about how close Slyck and Homicide are because in all the talks I've had with Cide, he's never brought him up in a positive way, that I can recall. |
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Jan 24, 2008 21:59:09 GMT -5
I meant when Necro was having personal problems a year or two back and no showed a bunch of shows. I thought I remember his girlfriend at the time saying that he beat her. I'm not 100% sure but I thought I read something like that.
I had assumed Slyck was one of Homicide's boys. I don't think he's Low Ki or Monsta Mack close with Homicide but I did believe that they were friends. But if you heard something from Homicide then about they aren't as close as Slyck thinks. Personally Slyck is the only guy I hate on the JAPW roster. If he's gonna be used though I like him in the role he has now because he doesn't wrestle all that often and the less Slyck I have to see in the ring the better.
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Post by kingofgoreobo on Jan 24, 2008 22:32:32 GMT -5
why dig on JC? what does digging on JC have to do with me saying these JAPW fights are lame? Any internet fights are lame. There isn't much of a board any more, because a lot of people have been run off by constant bickering and a bunch of trolls from elsewhere on the forum that seem to have a priority dominance over this forum, simply because they spam a whole bunch in the lounge and make friends with the admins
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Post by therealjswo on Jan 24, 2008 22:55:10 GMT -5
I meant when Necro was having personal problems a year or two back and no showed a bunch of shows. I thought I remember his girlfriend at the time saying that he beat her. I'm not 100% sure but I thought I read something like that. Ah, that story. Haha, Necro was the victim. The chick was booking Necro on shows, getting an advance on the booking, not telling Necro and then keeping the cash herself. Necro moved from where he was living to live with that chick. She ended up cheating on him when he was out on bookings too. I had assumed Slyck was one of Homicide's boys. I don't think he's Low Ki or Monsta Mack close with Homicide but I did believe that they were friends. But if you heard something from Homicide then about they aren't as close as Slyck thinks. Personally Slyck is the only guy I hate on the JAPW roster. If he's gonna be used though I like him in the role he has now because he doesn't wrestle all that often and the less Slyck I have to see in the ring the better. I figured he was closer to Ki then anyone else. I'm not saying Homicide isn't friends with Slyck but I don't think they are close at all in a way other then the usual wrestlers in the same area are. |
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Jan 27, 2008 7:10:09 GMT -5
Man that sounds like a show worth buying on DVD when it comes out. if it does.
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