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Post by CBT on Apr 19, 2007 12:43:29 GMT -5
Well I was thinking to myself, ever WFWf show seemed to have some form of closure. Code Red not so much, but definitely Hybird. It seems as though with each set of owners, a new show is created. With the Kyzer-Drakz regime it was Odium, and with myself and Rev you have Felo-De-Se. But to get to the point, I'm not real sure on the overall turnout but I do know people roleplayed for what was not known to be, but became the last Odium, and what was a strong card never seen the day of light as far as results go. So... What I was pondering was whether anybody would have interest in them if after the PPV is up I put together some results for what should have been the last Odium. Now no roleplaying is expected from you guys, if you were booked, than you had the chance. I am soley going on who showed vs what I can work with from the overall roleplays. This also won't distract from a card, while I'd hold out on posting on while doing this, I do have a card so really it wouldn't hinder me one ioda. On top of all that, if I do the results for the final Odium, it could be a nod to WFWF 24/7. Something I enjoy piecing together, but obviously I only do it when I feel I can deliver on all cylinders. But yea, long story short. After Forever Unscarred, if I took maybe a day or two tops to write the show below, would you have interest in it? It would be without segments unless I somehow decided to implement them, and it would be based around when Drakz and Kyzer ran the show, I sided with with Rev as a good guy, Kyzer was the Champ, ect... It'd be 100% based off that time frame. wfigs.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=cardsresults&action=display&thread=1160001287 |
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Post by recklessmatten on Apr 19, 2007 13:56:52 GMT -5
i would like to see this
It was ment to be my 1st match if i remeber
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Post by Thunder on Apr 19, 2007 14:25:35 GMT -5
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Post by sonstuds on Apr 19, 2007 15:20:47 GMT -5
I think it's pointless to go back and do results for something that's now 6 months old. Of course, my opinion might be different if I was actually on the card.
That said, the link gave me the good memories of Al's "controversial" roleplay that caused another epic fight. Good times.
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Post by CBT on Apr 19, 2007 16:34:49 GMT -5
I think it's pointless to go back and do results for something that's now 6 months old. Of course, my opinion might be different if I was actually on the card. That said, the link gave me the good memories of Al's "controversial" roleplay that caused another epic fight. Good times. I can understand the, I'm not booked so why would it matter theory, but like you said... the card has good prescence. As for titles, well I'm gonna have to review some things. I really doubt any title changes would be in affect, but for the benefit of argument, the stips stay so while you wouldn't be a recognized champion, if you win the match than well, you get where that theory is going. This would be more directed towards WFWF 24/7, but in the form of a previously unreleased show. I also wanna mention, this would also give me a victory over Michael Kyzer in a non-title match.  You see around 2 months ago I discussed with Kyzer about re-posting my roleplay, and if he had his to post his or make one for that time frame. The match would singal his return without leaving unfinished business, but Kyzer hasn't been around to forward on that. So that said, that match is gonna be aired one way or another, and that was with Kyzer's consent. The card is pretty heavy but I figure once roleplays are chartered the results will only fall on how I write them/how long it takes. |
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Post by Yukio Blaze on Apr 19, 2007 16:50:29 GMT -5
I will have to say yes to CBT's suggestion because Obo screwing me over in the match was supposed to set off a major heel and me jobbing to McGurk was to be a good thing in the end.
So yeah, I'm with CBT's idea.
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Post by Calvin on Apr 19, 2007 17:04:51 GMT -5
I agree with EBR. It's pointless..and will end up taking time and no one will really work on FDS. It'll end up being a waste of time in my eyes.
And to EBR..hahahaha, good times.
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Post by CBT on Apr 19, 2007 17:27:14 GMT -5
I agree with EBR. It's pointless..and will end up taking time and no one will really work on FDS. It'll end up being a waste of time in my eyes. And to EBR..hahahaha, good times. Please explain. I have a card for post-FU, hell I have 2 cards, I'm covered for the next two weeks. Results are no biggie to me, I'm getting more comfortable with writing, though PPV I devoted only writing one match, as my match needs my attention with a roleplay. But yea, I can understand if you don't care. That's fine, it's not mean't to settle really anything. I just figured it'd be nice to finish what they started and not act like the show never was. I'm not gonna push it more than that, it wasn't my unfinished business, and whether or not this is a previously unaired show worth watching I'll fall on the hem.
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Post by veronicaaaahhhh on Apr 19, 2007 23:40:39 GMT -5
I like the sound of this. I had written The Hacker vs Saku vs Burton, and I know its still around somewhere. CBT, I'll send it to you as soon as I find it.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Apr 20, 2007 0:02:45 GMT -5
it doesn't serve any purpose. that card is what? 6 months old? 17 out of 26 people on that card aren't even around any more.
It also wasn't meant to be the final Odium. If you remember correctly, it was a very angle-heavy card. Yukio versus Wayne with Obo as referee was supposed to be the massive heel turn for Obo. The feud with Wayne was "over" even though everyone thought I was set to kill him, pillage his fields and rape his woman, all quite literally, but instead it was set up for Obo to heel turn on Yukio, nailing him with a Yakuza kick for Wayne to pick up the win, then Obo joins the Kyzer/Drakz regime and feuds with Yukio for a while.
If I remember correctly, there where a ton of no-shows on that card, which is what lead to Drakz saying, direct quote "fuck the fucking douches".
It was an angle heavy card from 6 months ago, that no one remembers the angles from except me & Yukio, and only for our angle.. It was long written off as "gone". If you wanted to write results for the last Odium, you should have done it six months ago, not now..
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Post by CBT on Apr 20, 2007 0:25:24 GMT -5
Like I said it was only a thought, I shouldn't have did anything because it wasn't my responsibility to do so 6 months ago.
I knew about the angles, I was more aiming to put the show forward, I never was asked to take over the responsibilities of getting the last Odium out.
Seriously it would have been similar to some previous code reds where a match was ushered in that got lost in the shuffle on previous shows. I wouldn't be wasting time considering those who did roleplay.
That said, if you gotta be a douche and get all bitchy about a matter that was never made mine to be dealt with, do it anywhere but here where it can be addressed.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Apr 20, 2007 1:42:05 GMT -5
why the hostilaty? You asked a question, I stated my opinion.. if you didn't want opinions, or more specificially, opinions that do not match your own, you shouldn't have posed the question.
The results were not "your duty" but I still think they should have been written and the storylines continued. Drakz was not hard to get ahold of when you and Rev took over, you could have easily got an angle specs you didn't know, or the participants in the angles themselves didn't know. That's what I've always hated about ownership switches, how every angle and for the most part, title, is dropped. it happened with Flaps/Smith to Draven/Josh, it happened with Draven/Josh to Kyzer/Drakz, it happened with Kyzer/Drakz to CBT/Rev, and it'll probably happen when you and Rev leave and give the ownership to whoever you do. I hate it. WFWF is a constant running story, and the consistanship should be continued.
that said, you can't just go back and add the results. That's like reading a book and finding the chapters are mislabeled, and it goes chapter 4 to chapter 6, but everything still makes sense for the most part, then around chapter 17, chapter 5 is inserted with a few different things that add to the story. you just can't do it. Really, what does adding these results add to the federation? We survived without them. The story was that the show didn't air, it got dropped, Kyzer/Drakz left, and CBT/Rev took over, starting over basicly. Why go back and add these results that contridict the story you've already written?
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Post by CBT on Apr 20, 2007 11:14:52 GMT -5
I'm not trying to contradict something, and to end the conversation turned argument, Drakz hated WFWF. You even said it, so how the  can I go out of my way in your words, and get angles and crapfrom him, when the last thing he wants to hear about is WFWF? Than Kyzer was out so that wasn't a option either. If I was told to try to resuscitate WFWF, I would have. But WFWF needed a reemergence. Kyzer and Drakz were good owners but WFWF had been a cluster since Flaps left due to everyone taking on a responsibility they couldn't maintain. In a nutshell I don't feel the need to end Odium on any note. I just figured lt'd make for some interesting vintage shit. But it has no self-attachment to me. |
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Post by sonstuds on Apr 20, 2007 11:17:26 GMT -5
...Why are titles getting dropped when we get new owners?  I mean, I can sort of understand the Kyzer/Drakz thing (storyline wise, trying to ruin the WFWF by having stupid titles), but what about the other ones? And I agree with Obo 100%. Who cares now? I mean, let's just go through all the matches. In eight matches that combine a total of 20 roleplayers, three are still here. Of course, I didn't count MOD and Alex who have both taken leaves of absences but still occasionally occupy the boards. Now, that said, I doubt MOD gives two shits about a match I don't even think he roleplayed for, and Alex vs. Shane Sanders accomplishes nothing. The closure (or lack of) of the Anointed is already gonna be addressed in my roleplay, so what's really being accomplished? Now, to be fair, you do have a handful of matches that actually accomplish something. As Obo mentioned, he's already a heel right now so by doing the results either a) He has a heel turn a few months before he actually turned heel, which doesn't make sense b) the match is just Obo being a fair referee, which also wouldn't make sense and isn't interesting at all. In the case of CBT vs. Kyzer, Kyzer didn't roleplay so I fail to see why that match would be so interesting and have the need to be written (and if you're gonna ask him to roleplay for a match that took place six months ago, that's just silly). That leaves one match, Shadow vs. Calvin, that maybe has a reason to be booked. And I say maybe with the possibility that there was an actual angle there. |
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Post by CBT on Apr 20, 2007 17:18:52 GMT -5
Alright, I tried to do a good deed, I apologize.  In all seriousness, I just wanted to do something like the MOD vs Macabre bombfire match, where a previously unaired match would take place. No distraction from the show or current storylines, just a way to do something could have been worth it. I agree 3 matches are worth the time, while the rest stand as important only due to the time frame. Now on another note, the reason the titles were dropped with WFWF. Well they weren't. Sure me and Rev came in as the pure and old school type owners, not out of the loop, but we wanted crapthat gave respect to the fed. So the title names were more Kyzer and Drakz' deal, me and Rev didn't follow same logic. We actually just reinstated the belts that existed prior to Kyzer and Drakz. Excluding the TV, National, and or Women's titles. But yea, the Intergalactic Spaceman title as the excuse that Kyzer left with the belt. He walked out as champion. So we brought back the WFWF Heavyweight title that Drakz was the last to hold, and made that the top belt again. The Ham Shank title change was all about bringing respect back to the belts. Wayne's reign was never cut short, he was given a brand new belt but it carried the long legacy of the International title that Okana was the last to hold, before he both left and the belt was taken off him. The Tag Titles you know the drill, we didn't see the importance in them with such limited competition, but as proven by the return of the titles ZMaster & Ganador(or Hardcastle) were the last to hold, the belts have life again. In a nutshell, I won't say we followed the code of conduct, and changed everything because me and Rev were two different enigmas compared to Drakz and Kyzer. So crapwas gonna change one way or another. The top title was dropped because the champion left with the belt. The secondary title was changed because the holder was good, but the belt image/name was disgraceful in storyline. As for the tag, I repeat... those belts were dropped only due to not a lot of activity. I doubt we'd have kept the orgy name, but the belts would have stayed as is a long with the champs, had there been more than revolution vs anointed. though I won't deny that wasn't a great call. |
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