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Post by Death Bear on Jun 27, 2007 22:05:10 GMT -5
This is my name for the idea of someone's career actually taking a step backwards by winning a title. This can mean winning a title beneath that person, winning a title too quickly, or just winning a title the wrong way or at the wrong time and for whatever reason you've taken a step BACK in your career by winning it as opposed to forward.
Some notable recievers of the RKO are:
It's namesake, Randy Orton. Won the title way too quickly in his career at a point where he wasn't ready for it, and was buried a month later by HHH.
Samoa Joe. Won the X Division title last week at a point in his career where most people have been expecting him to win the World title for months.
Santino Marella. Given the Intercontinental title with the gimmick that he was a fan from the audience, and won by cheating. This did a number on his credibility.
Johnny Nitro. Given the ECW title as a last second replacement for a match the entire IWC wanted to see, and reportedly wants to drop the title soon. Great way to start a main event career.
So the question and discussion of this thread is, obviously, for you to name some other notable recievers of the RKO Treatment and the situations of their title wins, and also the consequences to their career of these title wins. And... go.
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Post by foshizzle on Jun 27, 2007 22:08:44 GMT -5
Samoa Joe. Won the X Division title last week at a point in his career where most people have been expecting him to win the World title for months.
Uhhhh, I think that is a step forward, because that puts him in the main event at the next PPV. Also, whenever Joe or AJ wins it, it brings back the credibility of the belt. It means that the X title is gonna be given some more time on shows!
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Post by Rant Casey on Jun 27, 2007 22:21:57 GMT -5
Samoa Joe. Won the X Division title last week at a point in his career where most people have been expecting him to win the World title for months.Uhhhh, I think that is a step forward, because that puts him in the main event at the next PPV. Also, whenever Joe or AJ wins it, it brings back the credibility of the belt. It means that the X title is gonna be given some more time on shows! I think this will hurt the X title more than help it. Joe will be tied up with a Angle storyline and keep him out of the X-Division, sort of the way the ECW title was held up when Lashley did that whole BOTM thing at mania. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 27, 2007 22:42:21 GMT -5
Samoa Joe. Won the X Division title last week at a point in his career where most people have been expecting him to win the World title for months.Uhhhh, I think that is a step forward, because that puts him in the main event at the next PPV. Also, whenever Joe or AJ wins it, it brings back the credibility of the belt. It means that the X title is gonna be given some more time on shows! I think this will hurt the X title more than help it. Joe will be tied up with a Angle storyline and keep him out of the X-Division, sort of the way the ECW title was held up when Lashley did that whole BOTM thing at mania. True, but a lot of people are expecting ANgle to cost Joe the X-title at the next PPV, thus returning the X title to its rightful division and putting Joe in a World title feud. ...and in all honesty, can you really blame Nitro for not wanting the ECW title at this point? Now, if you want to talk about someone who fell victim to what you call the "RKO Treatment"...I give you none other than Chris Jericho, who, after having been the UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT WRESTLING CHAMPION OF THE WORLD, went on to win the tag titles once and the IC title 3 times. |
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Post by FleshyOne on Jun 27, 2007 22:54:14 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley
Lashley was just randomly handed the ECW title when he was still very green and barely two years into the company.
Big Show
He was given his first world title runs in WCW and WWF simply because of his freak appeal.
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Jun 27, 2007 22:58:34 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley.. They gave it to him wayyy toooo soon..
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Post by Death Bear on Jun 27, 2007 23:14:16 GMT -5
I never blamed any of the people who are victim to this, ESPECIALLY Johnny Nitro. I'm a huge fan of Johnny Nitro and think he has potential to be a great world champion, but if he just wins it randomly the way he did and then drops it within a month his first title run is basically a joke, and it will be hard to take him seriously as a main eventer in the future.
I dont blame him at all, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that title either at this point, I'm just saying the circumstances could be potentially damaging to his career.
Also, I strongly feel that Smoa Joe holding the X title is a step in the wrong direction for both Joe and TNA. He's been built up to be a world champion, not a mid card champion, not to mention that his current feuds will keep him away from the X division title, which will sufer because of a preoccupied champion.
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Post by Flava Dave on Jun 27, 2007 23:20:50 GMT -5
Like Shocker said, Chris Jericho winning the Intercontinental title several times after his Undisputed title run.
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Post by inrogers29 on Jun 28, 2007 3:35:37 GMT -5
Bobby LashleyLashley was just randomly handed the ECW title when he was still very green and barely two years into the company. Big ShowHe was given his first world title runs in WCW and WWF simply because of his freak appeal. I agree on both parts, especially about Big Show. It wasnt about how he was booked or him being popular or anything, he was just a huge guy. |
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Post by Dan on Jun 28, 2007 4:47:00 GMT -5
You see I'm not sure about Randy orton's Title win.
I mean it came at a time where Chris Benoit's run had gone for just about as long as it could before getting stale, and Randy Orton had already had a huge push in the year, proving himself against Mick Foley, Rob Van Dam etc. He showed he could carry the World Title with his IC Title Run.
Also, his win came at Summerslam, in a similar circumstance to that of Brock Lesnar's. Some may argue Brock Lesnar's first Title win should have been saved for Wrestlemania XIX.
Anyhow, Randy Orton winning the Title also led to the much anticipated split of Evolution, and if Randy Orton hadn't of won the Title at Summerslam, then Batista would never of faced Triple H at Wrestlemania 21 either. Come Summerslam 2004, Evolution had just about run its course.
Also, it was a good chance to test Randy Orton out to see wether he could be over as a lead face in the Business, which he showed he could when leading up to the Survivor Series, Taboo Tuesday and so on.
So really I thought the time for him to win the World Title was not too bad.
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