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Post by mck on Feb 24, 2008 20:55:09 GMT -5
Funaki
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Post by Stuffs "Thunder" Liger on Feb 24, 2008 21:02:19 GMT -5
Anyone that says CM Punk just wants attention. I'd have to say the obvious ones; Cena Except that it's the truth. And if Cena's so overrated, then why when he and Punk have faced the same wrestlers, Cena's matches have been much better? Shit, Punk had like 5 million matches with John Morrison, yet none of them were as good as Cena-Morrison on ECW the night after Benoitgate broke. |
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Post by eandcking on Feb 24, 2008 21:06:37 GMT -5
Anyone that says CM Punk just wants attention. I'd have to say the obvious ones; Cena Except that it's the truth. And if Cena's so overrated, then why when he and Punk have faced the same wrestlers, Cena's matches have been much better? ****, Punk had like 5 million matches with John Morrison, yet none of them were as good as Cena-Morrison on ECW the night after Benoitgate broke. D*mn. The truth is the truth. It's funny that someone would say that the only reason to mention Punk is for attention, yet they chime in with the customary Cena bullcrap. Cena is just the whipping boy of the day, that's all. Whoever the next long-term champ is will be the next guy to get bitched about constantly. |
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Post by Sexy White Chocolate on Feb 24, 2008 22:20:29 GMT -5
Id say either triple h, cena or kennedy.
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Post by ericbischoff on Feb 24, 2008 22:24:01 GMT -5
Randy Orton, for sure.
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Post by Mark on Feb 24, 2008 23:25:17 GMT -5
I disagree with your statement about HHH. Yes he may be at the end of his prime, BUT you said he is not up there with the likes of Hogan. Hogan could not wrestle. He was an 80's styled wrestler which consisted of a few wrestling moves and punches. Austin and Flair were actually top notch wrestlers. And HHH did revolutionize wrestling, he was a founding member of DX, he put on high quality matched with The Rock in 2000, Austin in 2001, Kurt Angle and Jericho in 2002. Formed Evolution in 2003, I could go on and on. . . . . As a whole package, HHH is no where Hogan is. Hogan has charisma, mic skills & drawing ability. On top of that, Hogan will ALWAYS be someone people want to see, much Rock, Austin, Flair. Wrestling isn't about actual wrestling, but the entertainment aspect. I mean Rock's finisher is nothing more than an elbow drop! Yes, HHH co-founded DX, but Shawn was the obvious star with HHH as a support. HHH never really got over until Chyna came into the mix & it wasn't because of anything he did, but because of her presence, IMO. As far as HHH having great matches will all of those guys, who can't?! lol @ the guy who listed stuff about flair revolutinizing the buisness. I didnt know a heel did that triple h was the greatest heel in 2000 and was putting on top notch matches. Hell he even put on a clinic with Funaki, granted Funaki lost |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 24, 2008 23:37:36 GMT -5
I like Jeff Hardy, but I don't really think he is very good. I think his mat wrestling is sub-par at best.....most of the time he just jumps off of something really high to get attention, and to me, that doesn't make you a good WRESTLER that you can jump from someplace really high.
Also, I don't understand what so many people see in CM Punk. I have no seen his pre-WWE work, but what I have seen of him IN the WWE all he has shown me is that he is an average-joe-nobody who is pretty sloppy in the ring and has NO ability on the microphone or any sort of personality to draw in the viewer. He just seems rather generic and boring to me.
Perhaps CM Punk is suffering what many ex-ECW wrestlers suffered in the WWE, having their move sets restricted. I know for a fact that people such as Rhino, Lance Storm, Jerry Lynn, Justin Credible, Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman were a LOT better in ECW then they were ALLOWED to be in WWE....and then everybody who never saw them before they got to WWE were like "these guys suck ass" kinda like I am doing to CM Punk because if he was ever good someplace else, I never saw it....so who knows.
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Post by Heresy on Feb 24, 2008 23:39:05 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy, Ric Flair, John Cena, and Mr. Kennedy
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Post by chumped on Feb 24, 2008 23:48:59 GMT -5
This is asked every week, and every week this results in an argument. No-one is "over-rated". Just because you don't like that wrestler, doesn't make them over rated. Indeed. |
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Post by Lk™ on Feb 24, 2008 23:54:01 GMT -5
Ric Flair. He's not the same wrestler he used to be, and some people seem to wanna believe that he's still great. He's selling on name value, and nothing more.
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Post by eandcking on Feb 25, 2008 0:00:28 GMT -5
As a whole package, HHH is no where Hogan is. Hogan has charisma, mic skills & drawing ability. On top of that, Hogan will ALWAYS be someone people want to see, much Rock, Austin, Flair. Wrestling isn't about actual wrestling, but the entertainment aspect. I mean Rock's finisher is nothing more than an elbow drop! Yes, HHH co-founded DX, but Shawn was the obvious star with HHH as a support. HHH never really got over until Chyna came into the mix & it wasn't because of anything he did, but because of her presence, IMO. As far as HHH having great matches will all of those guys, who can't?! lol @ the guy who listed stuff about flair revolutinizing the buisness. I didnt know a heel did thattriple h was the greatest heel in 2000 and was putting on top notch matches. Hell he even put on a clinic with Funaki, granted Funaki lost If you don't know what Ric Flair has done for the business, then you must have had your head up your arse in the 80's . . . . or you weren't alive then, either way. Flair revolutionized the concept of the working heel back then. He was the epitome of how a great heel champion usually draws more than a face champ. |
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Feb 25, 2008 0:05:40 GMT -5
And everytime he gets beat the company makes sure he comes out better than the oppenent. It took him what, 2 minutes to tapout to Benoit at WMXX? What a joke. Wow. Alright look at it this way, how emotional would that moment have been if Triple H had tapped out after a few seconds. What if Benoit had just dominated the match and won in just a few minutes, would it have been as big then? Benoit was overcoming the odds after years of slowly climbing the mountain. He was giving everything he had. It was the anticipation, it was supposed to have you on the edge of your seat, wondering if Benoit could really do it. That's how wrestling works. It was NOT to make Triple H look better. |
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Post by jrose2008 on Feb 25, 2008 0:08:51 GMT -5
i think that it would have to be HHH
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Post by Mark on Feb 25, 2008 0:30:24 GMT -5
lol @ the guy who listed stuff about flair revolutinizing the buisness. I didnt know a heel did thattriple h was the greatest heel in 2000 and was putting on top notch matches. Hell he even put on a clinic with Funaki, granted Funaki lost If you don't know what Ric Flair has done for the business, then you must have had your head up your arse in the 80's . . . . or you weren't alive then, either way. Flair revolutionized the concept of the working heel back then. He was the epitome of how a great heel champion usually draws more than a face champ. I was speaking on sarcasm |
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Post by wwfalex04: OUC? on Feb 25, 2008 1:28:20 GMT -5
CM Punk!
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Post by wagwan on Feb 25, 2008 2:47:36 GMT -5
As a whole package, HHH is no where Hogan is. Hogan has charisma, mic skills & drawing ability. On top of that, Hogan will ALWAYS be someone people want to see, much Rock, Austin, Flair. Wrestling isn't about actual wrestling, but the entertainment aspect. I mean Rock's finisher is nothing more than an elbow drop! Yes, HHH co-founded DX, but Shawn was the obvious star with HHH as a support. HHH never really got over until Chyna came into the mix & it wasn't because of anything he did, but because of her presence, IMO. As far as HHH having great matches will all of those guys, who can't?! lol @ the guy who listed stuff about flair revolutinizing the buisness. I didnt know a heel did that triple h was the greatest heel in 2000 and was putting on top notch matches. Hell he even put on a clinic with Funaki, granted Funaki lost well MARK, you're laughing at me for saying Flair revolutionzed the business, yet he was the one who inspired HHH to do what he's doing! Only difference is Flair does it right! WOOOOOOO! |
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Post by Mark on Feb 25, 2008 2:52:37 GMT -5
you do have a point, I misconstrude the difference between revolutionize and helping the buisness.
but hhh was still the greatest heel in 2000!
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Post by inrogers29 on Feb 25, 2008 3:20:04 GMT -5
Even though Im a big fan, Id say Kennedy.
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Post by wagwan on Feb 25, 2008 5:14:08 GMT -5
And everytime he gets beat the company makes sure he comes out better than the oppenent. It took him what, 2 minutes to tapout to Benoit at WMXX? What a joke. Wow. Alright look at it this way, how emotional would that moment have been if Triple H had tapped out after a few seconds. What if Benoit had just dominated the match and won in just a few minutes, would it have been as big then? Benoit was overcoming the odds after years of slowly climbing the mountain. He was giving everything he had. It was the anticipation, it was supposed to have you on the edge of your seat, wondering if Benoit could really do it. That's how wrestling works. It was NOT to make Triple H look better. Well, in my opnion, they lost me in that finish because there was a point where HHH should've tapped out MUCH sooner then he did. He was even "hulking up", what a doof. I got disappointed by the time HHH tapped out. It took away the timing of the reaction from me as a fan. |
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Feb 25, 2008 5:41:03 GMT -5
Either Michaels or Kennedy.
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