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Post by rkolegendkilla on Sept 6, 2007 3:47:54 GMT -5
your wrong . i do know alot about this business . that is why you don't get because . you are the one who does not know what you are talking about & what real pro-wrestling is .cody rhodes is great in the ring . also the old school saying goes less is better. you really think cm punk is drawing anybody but little kids & teenagers who do not know what real pro-wrestling or were not watching wrestling till 2000. orton did draw as champ & will bechamp again at unforgivven. so i think it wil be funny the we will have 2 world champions from the midwest after unforgiven st louis & chicago.punk wrestling abilty is made up of stolen Japanese moves & spots.there is no real wrestling like what orton does or cody rhodes does.cm punk all he does is spots & that is not wrestling . just not any spots but Japanese spots.kicking & knees are not wrestling. that is mma . this wrestling not mma . if you what to see some wannabe mma fighter go watch MMA not wrestling.punks kicks & knees are also slopy as hell. Man, you make me laugh... your cluster method of posting alone, gives great comedy value... Please, do not slag people for internet grammar when you use commas like a mad man. The problem with the WWE is that they don't look for new mainstream stars. They won't let anyone touch Cena when it comes to star power.
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Post by chaz on Sept 6, 2007 5:51:59 GMT -5
Man, you make me laugh... your cluster method of posting alone, gives great comedy value... why because i don't care about stupid grammar on the stupd internet . this ain't school,a newspaper , or a job . so it doesn't matter.if grammar or how i post makes you laugh then you really most not have a life . only nerds & people with no life care about grammar on the internet.peace i am off her & going to club onxy to do what people with lifes do. You really are a complete joke.
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Post by Sexy White Chocolate on Sept 6, 2007 10:38:45 GMT -5
These boards get so tired so fast with all of this rambling on. Anytime something noteworthy happens or is said it always comes back down to Cena sucks, Punk is god, Benoits burning in hell or Bret got screwed... Heres a fresh option for you, though it may be a little outlandish. See both sides!!! How this went from talking about Austin being a fool to people bitching about old school I'll never know. Remember without the old school you wouldnt have these new guys to drool over. Without your Flairs, Rhodes, Thez, Sammartino, even Hogan there wouldnt have been a popular period in the 80s where most of the new guys grew up. The 80s and 90s is where we saw the influx of new styles and foreign wrestlers who had different styles. Luchadors like Mysterio and Psicosis, Guerrerros, the Japanese guys like Muta and Liger. The British types like Dynamite, Regal and the Canadians like the Stampede wrestlers all came about in that 20 year span. So you have your Orton, Punk, Hardys, MVP and whatever other young guys you wanna throw in there watching this. It became a more hybrid style for todays market because so much was available to learn from. Orton, Cade and Murdoch are more traditional. Punk took the eastern and scientific influences. MVP emulates the showmanship and technical abilities of guys like Benoit, Hart and Flair. The Hardy's, Hooliganz etc the more extreme supposed spot monkey style of the Japanese and Mexicans with regular wrestling thrown in. You cant fault people for having a preference in how they want to work or can work based on their builds. It has to be believable and entertaining. If any of them can excel at their specific talent level and moveset.... if they have the right personality to carry off a good gimmick then thats when people put their emotional investment in that wrestler. Plenty of people love Punk. Orton and Edge have their devotees. Everyone has a following and for Austin to say what he did is being heavily biased towards his time when he was popular. He forgets Undertaker, Triple H and Michaels still wrestle. Theyre not real stars? He doesnt review the amounts of merch Cena and the Hardy's sell.. Somebody has to get an original gimmick and step up like Orton, Edge, Punk and looks like Carlito is about to. He is out of touch sadly...What did he do? Rip off the Sandman's gimmick a few months after he left ECW and because he had the right look and the opportunity became the biggest thing of the 90s market. Thats not stepping up. Thats being in the right places at the right time. This is the right time for many but think of whos there and healthy. They will be the ones to truly benefit from taking stage during a down time like this.If they are allowed to progress then they may even become as big as Austin or Rock but in scope of todays amount of viewers.
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Post by google on Sept 6, 2007 11:13:20 GMT -5
if you think cm ounk is better the a second generatio wrestler like randy orton then you are fool. Orton really knows how wrestle compared to punk . randy orton learned from his dad & learned how to do it the right way , the old school way . I laughed at this. Please, that is no argument. Times change, wrestling is no different. Punk is 10x the wrestler Orton is, even in the WWE. I mean, you might like 50 varied rest holds in a World title match, but at least Punk is exciting and puts on a great new match every night. 'Old school' has nothing to do with Orton being a piece of ****. I laughed at this. Please that is no way to argue a point seeing as punk is the most boring man on the WWE roster. Did you wastch wm 23 MITB!!! All that stuff he could have done with that ladder and what did he do? Put a ladder over his head and give out the weakest looking weapon moves of all time. And if anyone say 'go watch some of his indy work' who cares what he did in the indys? Ill start liking him when he puts on entertaining matches on the national level which he hasn't done. Some of the endings in those Punk/Morrison matches were the worst I've seen in ages. Show me one good exciteing match in one night let alone every night from WWE. Everyone knows anyone who goes to an indy show is a fat stupid greb hypocrite.
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Post by chaz on Sept 6, 2007 13:02:45 GMT -5
I laughed at this. Please, that is no argument. Times change, wrestling is no different. Punk is 10x the wrestler Orton is, even in the WWE. I mean, you might like 50 varied rest holds in a World title match, but at least Punk is exciting and puts on a great new match every night. 'Old school' has nothing to do with Orton being a piece of ****. I laughed at this. Please that is no way to argue a point seeing as punk is the most boring man on the WWE roster. Did you wastch wm 23 MITB!!! All that stuff he could have done with that ladder and what did he do? Put a ladder over his head and give out the weakest looking weapon moves of all time. And if anyone say 'go watch some of his indy work' who cares what he did in the indys? Ill start liking him when he puts on entertaining matches on the national level which he hasn't done. Some of the endings in those Punk/Morrison matches were the worst I've seen in ages. Show me one good exciteing match in one night let alone every night from WWE. Everyone knows anyone who goes to an indy show is a fat stupid greb hypocrite. Seriously I'm beginning to worry about this board. How the hell are indy fans all fat? That has to be the most stupid thing I've heard all day. Plus, indy has nothing to do with this, nobody mentioned it. You can't judge someone for one match, that wasn't entirely based around him. Orton could have done alot more with that ladder too but he didn't. Orton has never put on a decent match that didn't involve weapons. FACT.
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Post by taker1 on Sept 6, 2007 13:25:17 GMT -5
If Hulk Hogan said this he would be branded a stuck up egomaniac..... Eggs-actly. Austin's an idiot. No superstars? Cena is just as big of a superstar as he is, but of course no one here is going to admit it.
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Post by Ollie on Sept 6, 2007 14:34:05 GMT -5
Austin > WWE right now.
Austin is right, theres no huge stars, Cena doesn't get the pops anymore, Triple H does but he's not gonna be around forever.
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