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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Sept 17, 2007 11:33:49 GMT -5
Wrestling back in the 80's was much more different than it is now. Back then, if you can imagine it, there were only 4 main PPV's and that's it. Royal Rumble, SummerSlam, Survivor Series and WrestleMania.
Not to mention there were only 3 main titles as well. W.W.F. World Heavyweight, Intercontinental and Tag-Team. There was also the women's belt and women's tag-team belt, but they didn't last long.
Long title reigns worked very well back then because it wasn't nearly as over-exposed as today's wrestling is. Now, you've got countless belts, more television tapings, probably more house shows, and certainly more PPV's. There are even sometimes 2 PPV's a month now.
Like I said, long title reigns are a thing of the past and I believe the majority of people don't want to see that anymore. It grows old after a while.
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Post by Iron Man on Sept 17, 2007 11:35:54 GMT -5
Wrestling back in the 80's was much more different than it is now. Back then, if you can imagine it, there were only 4 main PPV's and that's it. Royal Rumble, SummerSlam, Survivor Series and WrestleMania. Not to mention there were only 3 main titles as well. W.W.F. World Heavyweight, Intercontinental and Tag-Team. There was also the women's belt and women's tag-team belt, but they didn't last long. Long title reigns worked very well back then because it wasn't nearly as over-exposed as today's wrestling is. Now, you've got countless belts, more television tapings, probably more house shows, and certainly more PPV's. There are even sometimes 2 PPV's a month now. Like I said, long title reigns are a thing of the past and I believe the majority of people don't want to see that anymore. It grows old after a while. Yeah but then again, if the title changed hands every month or 2-3 months people would still bitch. Maybe a year is too long but 6-8 months is a good reign.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Sept 17, 2007 11:41:29 GMT -5
^ Yeah, I agree. 6-8 months at a time un-interrupted is a great reign these days. Over a year now, is much too long. The fans will turn on you. Case & point John Cena. Did you hear the boo's last night?? Or how about at WrestleMania 23 this year?
I was there at WrestleMania and in my over 22+ years of watching wrestling have never, ever heard boo's like that in my life. They were tired of him then and completely worn out on him now.
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Post by hardyz on Sept 17, 2007 11:45:42 GMT -5
^ Yeah, I agree. 6-8 months at a time un-interrupted is a great reign these days. Over a year now, is much too long. The fans will turn on you. Case & point John Cena. Did you hear the boo's last night?? Or how about at WrestleMania 23 this year? I was there at WrestleMania and in my over 22+ years of watching wrestling have never, ever heard boo's like that in my life. They were tired of him then and completely worn out on him now. I actually heard worse boos at Unforgivin 2006 when Cena won the title
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Sept 17, 2007 11:49:44 GMT -5
^ I don't know man. At WrestleMania you had over 80,000+ people booing his ass and how many at Unforgiven?? 20,000 or so?? The boo's were deafining at WrestleMania, that's all I'm saying.
The boo's were bad at One Night Stand for Cena against RVD as well. Sometimes I wonder if that crowd would've rioted if Cena had won. Remember the sign that night? "If Cena Wins, We Riot"
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Post by ztj_wwf on Sept 17, 2007 11:52:21 GMT -5
^ Yeah, I agree. 6-8 months at a time un-interrupted is a great reign these days. Over a year now, is much too long. The fans will turn on you. Case & point John Cena. Did you hear the boo's last night?? Or how about at WrestleMania 23 this year? I was there at WrestleMania and in my over 22+ years of watching wrestling have never, ever heard boo's like that in my life. They were tired of him then and completely worn out on him now. I actually heard worse boos at Unforgivin 2006 when Cena won the title Cause it was in Toronto, you know what were like right?
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Post by hardyz on Sept 17, 2007 11:52:22 GMT -5
^ I don't know man. At WrestleMania you had over 80,000+ people booing his ass and how many at Unforgiven?? 20,000 or so?? The boo's were deafining at WrestleMania, that's all I'm saying. The boo's were bad at One Night Stand for Cena against RVD as well. Sometimes I wonder if that crowd would've rioted if Cena had won. Remember the sign that night? "If Cena Wins, We Riot" The Hammerstein Ballroom would have looked like the streets of West Virginia after a WVU game.
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Post by hardyz on Sept 17, 2007 11:53:16 GMT -5
I actually heard worse boos at Unforgivin 2006 when Cena won the title Cause it was in Toronto, you know what were like right? Yeah, obnoxious jerks Just playing......or am I?
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Sept 17, 2007 12:14:30 GMT -5
I don't hate John Cena. I hate the writing staff who has done absolutely nothing different with his character for the past several years, which has caused him to become one of the most stale Champions ever.
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Post by nexivdr on Sept 17, 2007 12:16:22 GMT -5
this isnt even a new question you should know the answer... if not cause he is stale wanna be rock
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Post by topcat on Sept 17, 2007 12:22:04 GMT -5
Cuz He IZ tEH GAYnEssZ 1!1!11oneone!
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Post by chumped on Sept 17, 2007 12:26:35 GMT -5
I look at it like this. You say he draws, sells merchandise, etc. As a wrestling fan, Why in the should I care that he draws? He isnt making me money by drawing. I cant stand him because he has pretty much been champ for 3 years. Now, before that, I was a huge Cena mark. He is just so stale, old, and lame now. He tries too hard to be funny and it doesnt work. All his matches are the same. And he buries people worse than Hulk Hogan. Its gotten to the point where its actually disgusting to see him win.
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Post by qwerty on Sept 17, 2007 12:32:21 GMT -5
I do not hate him. It is just that there are better wrestlers out there. I couldn't of said it better. John Cena is just doing his job of being the WWE's #1 draw. I find it laughable that some herbs on the forum go as far as to wish death on him. Love him or hate him, you cannot say rediculous garbage like that.
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Post by Iron Man on Sept 17, 2007 12:43:46 GMT -5
I look at it like this. You say he draws, sells merchandise, etc. As a wrestling fan, Why in the should I care that he draws? He isnt making me money by drawing. I cant stand him because he has pretty much been champ for 3 years. Now, before that, I was a huge Cena mark. He is just so stale, old, and lame now. He tries too hard to be funny and it doesnt work. All his matches are the same. And he buries people worse than Hulk Hogan. Its gotten to the point where its actually disgusting to see him win. WWE isn't going to care what a bunch of IWC think of John Cena. They are going for the majority of the fans which is the casual fans.
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Post by Lennon on Sept 17, 2007 12:53:02 GMT -5
I don't hate Cena. I have never been a fan of his, but i'd be lying if I said he's never entertained me.
The guy CAN put on really good matches. I just believe the character is stale....but since he's making the company lots of money, he's not going to be changed....and I don't blame them for not doing so.
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Post by Adam on Sept 17, 2007 13:22:03 GMT -5
We can't be tired of him?
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 17, 2007 13:44:07 GMT -5
We can't be tired of him? my thoughts exactly, there is no big long drawn out explanation to why i dont like him. i'm just tired of him.
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Post by onemoretime on Sept 17, 2007 13:46:27 GMT -5
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Because he Sucks :-) And this will probably be the best argument someone will give me... HE'S NOT ING TALENTED AT ALL.. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T LIKE HIM! When will you ing Cena marks get that through your head?
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Post by Markw on Sept 17, 2007 13:49:12 GMT -5
And this will probably be the best argument someone will give me... HE'S NOT ING TALENTED AT ALL.. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T LIKE HIM! When will you ing Cena marks get that through your head? This guy knows what he's talking about :-)
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Post by -Edge- on Sept 17, 2007 13:49:57 GMT -5
man i can go on and on why i hate him, but cant u just SEE whats going on and why we hate him?
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