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Post by Flyrfn144 on Sept 22, 2007 21:02:03 GMT -5
...I didn't even read your little "rant" up there, but I'm going to throw my two cents in because I'm bored right now. The thing Cena marks don't understand, is that everyone has an opinion. I can sit here for hours and hours talking **** about how bad of a wrestler he is, because: A.) This is a forum, and it is the whole purpose; to discuss the good and bad of a wrestler, and everything in between. B.) Have an opinion on different topics. The guy sucks as a wrestler. You can bring up the point of how people in the past have sucked more then him, but that's not the point. The point is this man right now sucks. The guy has had the SAME EXACT moveset for the past 4 years. People try to say "He is good on the mic." Well...no he's not. All of his promos for the past year have sucked, and it seems to me that he says the same exact thing. "I don't back down from a challenge, [insert name here] you want some, come get some!". Not to mention his horrible attempts to act "funny". He has held the title for too long, and in my opinion he doesnt deserve it from his in-ring work. I have however have gained alot of respect for him because he has taken alot of **** from the fans and kept going, and he was a super cool guy when I met him. That's about it though. He sucks at wrestling. My opinion, sticking to it. Now this, is quite possibly the greatest thing ever written on WF.
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Post by chumped on Sept 22, 2007 21:02:11 GMT -5
Cena used to be awesome. Now. He sucks. Get over it and stop ranting.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Sept 22, 2007 21:04:25 GMT -5
Here is another thing I hate about Cena fans. I don't hate them in particular, but I hate the comment, "You only hate Cena cause it's the cool thing to do." Personally, most of the Cena haters I know, have liked Cena before.
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Post by The Mania© on Sept 22, 2007 21:21:09 GMT -5
cena should drop the sissy gangster marine gimmick and pick up his prototype non intellectually- disabled gimmick He really isn't either of those gimmicks specfically anymore. I mean he still dresses in certain ways, he doesn't freestyle anymore except for those really rare occassions and he hasn't been wearing the camo too much either. Cena's kinda a hybrid of a lot of things he's done. That's why he's called just John Cena, not "Original Gangsta" John Cena or John "The Chain Gang Soldier" Cena. The fact that he isn't gimmick specific is part of why his appeal is touching more bases. Cena used to be awesome. Now. He sucks. Get over it and stop ranting. You're missing the point. "Sucking" is in the eye of the beholder, and secondly this is a discussion forum, where people are supposed to talk about their common interest, which in this case is wrestling. The guy has a right to share his thoughts.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Sept 22, 2007 21:24:04 GMT -5
Thank you 4LK! I was reading this feud and starting to think everyone on this board had gone insane. These whiny "why does everyone hate Cena" threads are so stupid. First of all, everyone has a right to their own opinion, and second of all, they're extremely insulting. This may be news to some people, but many of us are perfectly capable of forming our own opinions, and hated Cena long before there was an alleged " Cena hating bandwagon." I love how Cena haters call US whiny bitches, when all I see after a PPV is little bitches having a cry about Cena sucking. Pot, kettle, black ect.
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Post by The Mania© on Sept 22, 2007 21:30:24 GMT -5
I love how Cena haters call US whiny bitches, when all I see after a PPV is little bitches having a cry about Cena sucking. Pot, kettle, black ect. Yeah, how many guys have threatened to delete themselves if he retained his belt at a PPV? What does that even accomplish? And sadly while there are intelligent people who hate Cena and it is their right to do so, there's also a significant percentage of those who really just give him crap for the sake of it. Happened with Triple H, happened with JBL, and now I see people coming out of the woodwork to say CM Punk shouldn't be ECW Champ.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Sept 22, 2007 21:33:05 GMT -5
Here is another thing I hate about Cena fans. I don't hate them in particular, but I hate the comment, "You only hate Cena cause it's the cool thing to do." Personally, most of the Cena haters I know, have liked Cena before. One of the most moronic things ever posted on a wrestling forum. If you liked Cena before, why hate him all of a sudden? And please don't use the moveset excuse, because you'll look even more of a fool than you do now. He has had the same ammount of moves for the last 3 or so years, so it's not anything new that he only has the '5 moves of doom' as you guys like to call them. And news flash dickweeds, his '5 moves of doom' are more over than any move from your favorite wrestler.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2007 21:38:37 GMT -5
Here is another thing I hate about Cena fans. I don't hate them in particular, but I hate the comment, "You only hate Cena cause it's the cool thing to do." Personally, most of the Cena haters I know, have liked Cena before. One of the most moronic things ever posted on a wrestling forum. If you liked Cena before, why hate him all of a sudden? And please don't use the moveset excuse, because you'll look even more of a fool than you do now. He has had the same ammount of moves for the last 3 or so years, so it's not anything new that he only has the '5 moves of doom' as you guys like to call them. And news flash dickweeds, his '5 moves of doom' are more over than any move from your favorite wrestler. LOL. His moves being "over" isn't the point. It's that they are the same thing he has been doing for years. Atleast other people have added new things, but when you see the same moves, the same taunts, same promos, the same finishes in every single match it gets old. Quick.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Sept 22, 2007 21:40:26 GMT -5
One of the most moronic things ever posted on a wrestling forum. If you liked Cena before, why hate him all of a sudden? And please don't use the moveset excuse, because you'll look even more of a fool than you do now. He has had the same ammount of moves for the last 3 or so years, so it's not anything new that he only has the '5 moves of doom' as you guys like to call them. And news flash dickweeds, his '5 moves of doom' are more over than any move from your favorite wrestler. LOL. His moves being "over" aren't the point. It's that they are the same thing he has been doing for years. Atleast other people have added new things, but when you see the same moves, the same taunts, same promos, the same finishes in every single match it gets old. Quick. Mr. Kennedy has been literally cutting the exact same promo for the last 2 years, but somehow, he's still fresh? Oh wait, I forgot, he's a heel. He's so cool.
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Post by The Mania© on Sept 22, 2007 21:42:44 GMT -5
LOL. His moves being "over" isn't the point. It's that they are the same thing he has been doing for years. Atleast other people have added new things, but when you see the same moves, the same taunts, same promos, the same finishes in every single match it gets old. Quick. Actually if they are "over" isn't that the point, if it ain't broke don't fix it? I remember back when people were complining about Cena not doing any real grappling or submission moves, so WWE adds the STFU to his moveset and now people complain that they think it sucks that he uses it all the time.
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Post by Lennon on Sept 22, 2007 21:44:04 GMT -5
You know what's annoying?
Threads about John Cena.
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Post by mercennario1080 on Sept 22, 2007 22:27:06 GMT -5
You sir, made me stop hating Cena.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Sept 22, 2007 22:36:49 GMT -5
Here is another thing I hate about Cena fans. I don't hate them in particular, but I hate the comment, "You only hate Cena cause it's the cool thing to do." Personally, most of the Cena haters I know, have liked Cena before. Yeah, back when it wasn't cool to hate him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2007 22:38:50 GMT -5
Your right with most of that, but its still not going to make me a Cena fan. Plus, thats not all we complain about. Him "overcoming the odds", burying well respected wrestlers like Sabu, and Benoit. Winning just about every match he has, and when he loses. Its because his opponet cheated.
As far as Im concerned. He NEEDS to drop the belt. To Orton, or Kennedy. He can still be a main eventer without the belt, promise. He is the only champion that I know of, unless I missed something and gets booed when he supposed to be cheered. But then again I mightve missed someone else.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Sept 22, 2007 23:17:25 GMT -5
Your right with most of that, but its still not going to make me a Cena fan. Plus, thats not all we complain about. Him "overcoming the odds", burying well respected wrestlers like Sabu, and Benoit. Winning just about every match he has, and when he loses. Its because his opponet cheated. That's what I don't get with you guys. You expect Benoit and Sabu, two mid-carders, to beat Cena, who is the main man in the business? As far as Im concerned. He NEEDS to drop the belt. To Orton, or Kennedy. He can still be a main eventer without the belt, promise. He is the only champion that I know of, unless I missed something and gets booed when he supposed to be cheered. But then again I mightve missed someone else. Kennedy isn't ready for the title yet, and I just can't see Orton winning at No Mercy. And as I have said - whether you boo him or cheer him, you all tune in to see him. Controversy creates cash.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Sept 22, 2007 23:31:48 GMT -5
Here is another thing I hate about Cena fans. I don't hate them in particular, but I hate the comment, "You only hate Cena cause it's the cool thing to do." Personally, most of the Cena haters I know, have liked Cena before. One of the most moronic things ever posted on a wrestling forum. If you liked Cena before, why hate him all of a sudden? And please don't use the moveset excuse, because you'll look even more of a fool than you do now. He has had the same ammount of moves for the last 3 or so years, so it's not anything new that he only has the '5 moves of doom' as you guys like to call them. And news flash dickweeds, his '5 moves of doom' are more over than any move from your favorite wrestler. See, it's not moronic if you actually put your mind to it. He has become very stale, shoved down our throats, and I just don't like it anymore. He has been champion for over a year now, and was champion for a good part of the year last year. Ever heard the expression, change is good? Not saying he shouldn't have been the champion at least once or twice during that time, but for almost 2 years straight?! Come on man, other people in this company deserve the belt too. Not to say Cena doesn't give an effort or anything, but there are other guys who deserve it.
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Post by Mushroom Stomp on Sept 22, 2007 23:35:06 GMT -5
i dont have that much of a problem with him,i just dont like the long reign,people who say hes the best are wrong but he isnt horrible,i mean he puts alot of emotion in,hes not a bad seller,and he takes his job seriously,i dont complain,people should kinda just get over it
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Sept 22, 2007 23:35:32 GMT -5
One of the most moronic things ever posted on a wrestling forum. If you liked Cena before, why hate him all of a sudden? And please don't use the moveset excuse, because you'll look even more of a fool than you do now. He has had the same ammount of moves for the last 3 or so years, so it's not anything new that he only has the '5 moves of doom' as you guys like to call them. And news flash dickweeds, his '5 moves of doom' are more over than any move from your favorite wrestler. See, it's not moronic if you actually put your mind to it. He has become very stale, shoved down our throats, and I just don't like it anymore. He has been champion for over a year now, and was champion for a good part of the year last year. Ever heard the expression, change is good? Not saying he shouldn't have been the champion at least once or twice during that time, but for almost 2 years straight?! Come on man, other people in this company deserve the belt too. Not to say Cena doesn't give an effort or anything, but there are other guys who deserve it. Name some people deserving of the belt. And not Kennedy or Orton. The thing is, you guys don't know what you want. You want more prestige to the belt, but when someone gets a long title run they're stale?
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Post by Flava Dave on Sept 22, 2007 23:36:08 GMT -5
I'm so glad I'm part of the "don't give a dead moose's last crap about Cena" demographic.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Sept 22, 2007 23:39:21 GMT -5
See, it's not moronic if you actually put your mind to it. He has become very stale, shoved down our throats, and I just don't like it anymore. He has been champion for over a year now, and was champion for a good part of the year last year. Ever heard the expression, change is good? Not saying he shouldn't have been the champion at least once or twice during that time, but for almost 2 years straight?! Come on man, other people in this company deserve the belt too. Not to say Cena doesn't give an effort or anything, but there are other guys who deserve it. Name some people deserving of the belt. And not Kennedy or Orton. The thing is, you guys don't know what you want. You want more prestige to the belt, but when someone gets a long title run they're stale? Why can't we say Orton? I know he has had his backstage problems, but he is a young, talented wrestler, who should be given a shot. And the prestige thing, long reigns are acceptable, but not when it;s the same damn guy, for 2 years at a time. I for one, hate really long reigns, I like decent time with the same champion, but 2 years is too much for me. I think 1 year is a good enough reign for someone trying to get a long reign. I am not watching wrestling to see Hogan all over again, I don't wanna see that.
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