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Post by The Dude on Nov 29, 2007 18:43:53 GMT -5
I like seeing the change
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Post by chumped on Nov 29, 2007 19:05:36 GMT -5
^ Weird? How so? You mean its weird not to have the same cheesey promos each week, not to have the same stale matches, and the same main event picture. You probly say this being a Cena fan, maybe not, I could care less about rating, doesn't mean the products worse. Stale matches? If you ask anybody what their favorite ( WWE) match of 2007 was, 90% of them will say something with Cena. He's pulled a great match out of just about everybody he's faced this year. Hell, his matches with Khali were half-decent, especially ONS. Batista's matches against Khali downright sucked. That says something right there. Its all opinion, and you cant actually say that 90% would say a match with Cena, because you have absolutely no facts to back that up. For example. In my opinion, the best matches of this year were Edge vs Randy Orton on Raw, Randy Orton vs Triple H at No Mercy, Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels at Survivor Series, Undertaker vs Batista Wrestlemania 23, a lot of CM Punks matches on ECW, and I'm sure I missed some, but none of them will include Cena. Point is, it all comes down to personal opinion, and I don't see how you can sit there and say 90% of them will say a Cena match, like its a fact.
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Post by uzerx on Nov 29, 2007 19:10:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 22:24:46 GMT -5
Definately it has been better. HBK returning, Y2J returning, Orton finally winning the championship. its been 95% better.
My only complaint is they should put heels over more, and have them win cleanly. and have Triple H lose more instead of burying Umaga every week
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Post by JoeyBats on Nov 29, 2007 22:31:23 GMT -5
I think its been better. With the return of Jericho who needs Cena?
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Post by Ari Gold on Nov 29, 2007 23:19:17 GMT -5
ok, as much as i hate john cena, it does kind of suck that hes gone..raw was starting to get stale before Jericho came back and stuff.. but thats really the only thing holding raw together..when cena comes back, raw will probably be better.
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Post by Hurricane on Nov 29, 2007 23:43:47 GMT -5
I have to agree..Were getting something different now.. Yeah, Orton/HBK, Orton/HHH and Orton/Y2J, all of which have happened before. I do agree, though. The match qualities are better.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Nov 29, 2007 23:52:13 GMT -5
when cena comes back, raw will probably be better. Cena's return is going to be HUGE.
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Post by K5 on Nov 29, 2007 23:54:48 GMT -5
cena just reminds me of wwe nostalgia to the point of nausea. he's the hulk hogan of our age, and everyones tired of hulk hogans.
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Post by Lennon on Nov 30, 2007 0:13:04 GMT -5
Doesn't Jericho do just that each week? If Cena cut the promo Jericho did, he'd be assraped. Thank you! Everybody's making these promos Jericho's been doing to be so great, but if Cena did them they'd be on his nuts. Just shows the hypocricy of wrestling fans.. I don't know about you.....but Cookie Monster would have gotten a laugh out of me either way.
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Post by chumped on Nov 30, 2007 0:34:10 GMT -5
ok, as much as i hate john cena, it does kind of suck that hes gone..raw was starting to get stale before Jericho came back and stuff.. but thats really the only thing holding raw together..when cena comes back, raw will probably be better. Jericho sure is holding Raw together. I mean, his 5 minutes at the end of Raw 2 weeks ago, and his 10 minutes on Raw this past week, have really made these last two weeks quite enjoyable. /sarcasm Outside of the main event, which Jericho hasn't really even been apart of, Raw has been god awful.
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Post by Master Lewpac on Nov 30, 2007 5:41:42 GMT -5
Raw - Cena = Heaven.
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Post by Edge618 on Nov 30, 2007 8:44:20 GMT -5
its been way better. In a month or two it will be even better w/ all the plans of Wrestle Mania unfolding. 2008 will be the year for WWE as long as they dont screw up the Rumble or give Cena the belt as soon as he gets back
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Post by Edge618 on Nov 30, 2007 8:48:16 GMT -5
Definately it has been better. HBK returning, Y2J returning, Orton finally winning the championship. its been 95% better. My only complaint is they should put heels over more, and have them win cleanly. and have Triple H lose more instead of burying Umaga every week Cheating is the HEEL thing to do. I can understand maybe Umaga and Khai and "monster heels" But not Orton and Edge and Kennedy etc. Their supposed to be cowards, their supposed to cheat. I think heels should only win cleanly if its a big match that could help their character. Like Orton beating HHH clean at No Mercy in the Last Man Standing match. It did take away from it though that it was HHH's 3rd match but still
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