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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Jun 20, 2007 21:44:39 GMT -5
Ok so, instead of talking about the problems of both companies, what can both companies start to do, to fix these problems?
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Post by Graze on Jun 20, 2007 21:47:49 GMT -5
Ok so, instead of talking about the problems of both companies, what can both companies start to do, to fix these problems? TNA - Fire Russo WWE - Give total creative control to Heyman, put everyone with the last names McMahon or Dunn in an airplane and send them the same island "lost" is on |
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Jun 20, 2007 21:51:32 GMT -5
Ok so, instead of talking about the problems of both companies, what can both companies start to do, to fix these problems? TNA - Fire Russo WWE - Give total creative control to Heyman, put everyone with the last names McMahon or Dunn in an airplane and send them the same island "lost" is on Totally agree. But continue - be more in depth. You guys are all creative. If you were the creative teams of these companies, what kinds of angles would you draw attention to, what tops stars would you exploit, and what feuds would help build back the industry that once was? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2007 21:58:40 GMT -5
Ok so, instead of talking about the problems of both companies, what can both companies start to do, to fix these problems? TNA - Fire Russo WWE - Give total creative control to Heyman, put everyone with the last names McMahon or Dunn in an airplane and send them the same island "lost" is on that, they arent ruining my show. Besides, noobs die. Look at Nickie and Paulo |
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Post by Graze on Jun 20, 2007 21:59:47 GMT -5
TNA - Fire Russo WWE - Give total creative control to Heyman, put everyone with the last names McMahon or Dunn in an airplane and send them the same island "lost" is on Totally agree. But continue - be more in depth. You guys are all creative. If you were the creative teams of these companies, what kinds of angles would you draw attention to, what tops stars would you exploit, and what feuds would help build back the industry that once was? TNA- They need to push Joe and the X guys. Push the guys most fans see as "TNA homegrown wrestlers". There just so different then anyone else the WWE has on their roster, plus, the WWE never pushes the crusierweights, so take advantage of it and push the X division hard. WWE- Well, it's more about politics. I'm all for seeing HBK, HHH and Taker in main events, but they need to make new stars. Push Nitro, Benjamin, London, etc. Give your younger guys a chance, stop holding them back. You have Paul Heyman under contract and your doing nothing with him, well, give him the book! Look at the then WWF and WCW in the late 90's. At the time when WCW had guys like Hogan, Savage, Piper, Nash, etc main eventing, WWF seemed fresh, they had newer guys main eventing at that time, like Austin and Rock. WWE needs to do this again. You can never turn your back on the big name megastars, but you need to build for the future and you need to give the fans new people to get emotionally attached to. Give your younger guys a chance, stop burying them and stop holding them back, let them loose like it seemed in the late 90's. |
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Post by FleshyOne on Jun 20, 2007 22:00:59 GMT -5
WWE is great right now. ECW has been cleansed, Benoit and/or Punk will be ECW champion by Sunday, Cena's has just about run out of people to beat, Edge is WHC, MVP is US Champ, Kennedy is on RAW, etc etc etc.
Things are looking better then they have for a LONG time.
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Post by T R W on Jun 20, 2007 22:02:29 GMT -5
Umm..they need to advertise better, and get a decent time slot on a decent network. Until they do, they will never be anything more than they are now.
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Post by cooga99 on Jun 20, 2007 22:05:09 GMT -5
Ok so, instead of talking about the problems of both companies, what can both companies start to do, to fix these problems? First thing WWE needs to do is get new writers. If McMahon insists on having a 3 brand split then he needs to run it like 3 seperate companys. Give Heyman total control of ECW. Dont use guys like The Miz and Johnny Nitro in ECW they dont fit the original theme behind ecw. You dont have to go out and get all the old faces but a few wouldnt hurt. Bringing in a few newer guys is fine but limit it and only bring in certain ones. CM Punk is a great choice for that. Colt Cabana would be another. Chris Benoit is another good choice. Smackdown needs to be completely changed. Treat it like a company not a brand. If nothing else give it the WCW title with Eric Bischoff in charge of booking. Let the raw brand be the WWE version. Keep the title on Cena if you want. He puts butts in the seat. For god sakes though CHANGE THE BELT BACK!! TNA really needs to scrap everything and start over. They have great ideas (Ultimate X, King of the Mountain) but i think the 6 sided ring should drop 2 sides. Stop trying to push washed up WWE and WCW has beens. Dont push former WWE midcarders either. You have to spend money to make money. Get out and travel. Move away from Orlando. Get some working deals with ROH (which they just lost) NJPW. Start pushing your own talent. If you want Styles, Daniels, Joes as you main man then give him the TNA title not the x div title. Thats like the WWE putting the IC belt on hogan. To me the more competition there is the more interest theres gonna be. If you could have WWE, ECW, WCW (even though it would be under 1 ownership but run as 3 dif companys) followed by TNA, ROH and maybe even a small comeback of NWA, then there would be interest in wrestling like there was with the competition of 70-80s (WWF, AWA, NWA) and the 90s (WWF, WCW, ECW) |
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jun 20, 2007 22:06:48 GMT -5
Truthfully, they've got a decent tv spot on a network that desperately wants them there from what I've seen. The problem, as far as I can tell, is that because they shoot their tv shows about 4 or 5 episodes at a time, the storylines end up all shot to crap cause nobody can make a longterm decision about where the company is headed.
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Post by dancinfatass on Jun 20, 2007 22:17:46 GMT -5
TNAs problem is one month they think they're ECW. The next week they take the WWE approach with stupid gimmicks and same old story lines, a month later they start trying all this new crap that gets them no where. They need to decide what style they want to be. They have a ton of talent yet they waste the majority of it because they'd rather have the Dudley boyz, Steiners and other has beens taking space. The X division is what made TNA unique, now it's garbage. They have inconsistent story lines and are all over the place with their talent. They don't promote enough, and don't tour enough to get different regions of people to know that they are out there.
But there main problem is RUSSO.
If it was me, I'd run it like ECW tried, but somewhat different. Have a mix of everything so everyone can be happy and showcase all types of wrestling.
- X-Division: to showoff the high flying spot festers
- Hardcore Division: to show off the weapon spot festing
- Tag Divison: People are craving a real tag divison, they had it then they ruined and destroyed it.
- TNA Title Division: Like the WWE's version where all the big stars (Minus the roster split) compete for the title and feud with each other.
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Post by wawwe18 on Jun 20, 2007 22:22:42 GMT -5
Imo they are boring they have great talent but they don't know how to manage them nothing special is ever happening in TNA.
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Post by Cammi Oh on Jun 20, 2007 22:39:36 GMT -5
TNA is new and only getting bigger and better.
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Jun 20, 2007 22:53:50 GMT -5
I think we need the younger stars to be finally be put over... ( To pass the torch) Look at the young stars we can tage advantage of.. Johnny Nitro,CM Punk,Elijah Burke,Jeff Hardy,and of course Shelton Benjamin.. These guys would be an aweasome alternative to watching Cena as champ..
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 21, 2007 0:06:50 GMT -5
I hate to say it but Eric Bischoff has a point. But this is also going from the guy that helped run WCW into the ground. You do realize that Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo are two separate, right? Russo killed WCW, not Eric. After all, Eric was the only guy to ever turn a profit with WCW. Oh, and before anyone says anything about the guaranteed contracts putting the company under, I recommend you read "The Death of WCW" first. |
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Post by HHH316 on Jun 21, 2007 0:52:55 GMT -5
Well, Bischoff's right.
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Post by robvandammit on Jun 21, 2007 1:42:15 GMT -5
first to save TNA!!
they despratly need to get heyman as the booker "steal rvd sabu, and sandman after he's released in about 3 months tops then ,have heyman lead with and invasion!!!! AND TRUELY EXTREME INVASION
capitolize on the fact that wwe is running ecw thats not truely what it once was there running adds about extrem rules matches and such so make take advantage of there advertising dollars and say TNA the heart of EXTREME LIVES HERE!!!!
then boom you have rhino , the dudleys, rvd , sabu, raven, shane douglas, (sandman ) and others to have a legitamate invasion with the focus on, heyman believing that this was the only way that the basturdazation of ecw would NOT go down in history as the MCMAHON ENVISION!!
this wat tna can also builld up joe,witch has been in monsters ball matches and so forth so he can be a submission machine still with the hardcore edge and have him fight for the title against RVD, witch unlike christian DOES PUT BUTTS IN THE SEATS ! and you can't argue that he wasen't a legite main eventer either holding the basturdized ecw title and wwe title simoltaniously says alot more than the credibility of cage! so have them duke it out while,
having angle continue the whinning to cornette angle bout how he came to tna from ecw to get away from this kinda crap and fued with sabu,keeping him away from the title
that will save tna !!!!and with heymans help will make them compition , because were heyman goes the true ecw faithful will faollow and be slammmin down the kool-aide all over again and that will in turn draw the ratings they need for the second hour and so on!
wwe could care less about vince is gonna do what vince is gonna do deceased or not!! so im not gonna waist my breathe seeing how about half of you didn't make it threw the tna portion 0f the rant any ways!!
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Jun 21, 2007 2:44:48 GMT -5
WWE is great right now. ECW has been cleansed, Benoit and/or Punk will be ECW champion by Sunday, Cena's has just about run out of people to beat, Edge is WHC, MVP is US Champ, Kennedy is on RAW, etc etc etc. Things are looking better then they have for a LONG time. I like what you are saying, but how can Benoit AND Punk be champion? It's gonna be one or the other. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jun 21, 2007 3:14:20 GMT -5
first to save TNA!! they despratly need to get heyman as the booker "steal rvd sabu, and sandman after he's released in about 3 months tops then ,have heyman lead with and invasion!!!! AND TRUELY EXTREME INVASION capitolize on the fact that wwe is running ecw thats not truely what it once was there running adds about extrem rules matches and such so make take advantage of there advertising dollars and say TNA the heart of EXTREME LIVES HERE!!!! then boom you have rhino , the dudleys, rvd , sabu, raven, shane douglas, (sandman ) and others to have a legitamate invasion with the focus on, heyman believing that this was the only way that the basturdazation of ecw would NOT go down in history as the MCMAHON ENVISION!! this wat tna can also builld up joe,witch has been in monsters ball matches and so forth so he can be a submission machine still with the hardcore edge and have him fight for the title against RVD, witch unlike christian DOES PUT BUTTS IN THE SEATS ! and you can't argue that he wasen't a legite main eventer either holding the basturdized ecw title and wwe title simoltaniously says alot more than the credibility of cage! so have them duke it out while, having angle continue the whinning to cornette angle bout how he came to tna from ecw to get away from this kinda crap and fued with sabu,keeping him away from the title that will save tna !!!!and with heymans help will make them compition , because were heyman goes the true ecw faithful will faollow and be slammmin down the kool-aide all over again and that will in turn draw the ratings they need for the second hour and so on! wwe could care less about vince is gonna do what vince is gonna do deceased or not!! so im not gonna waist my breathe seeing how about half of you didn't make it threw the tna portion 0f the rant any ways!! You're a dumbass. Heyman doesnt like TNA. He has made this clear in several interviews. Same with RVD. Sandman and Sabu will go wherever they get a good paycheck. With Jarrett around, and he will ALWAYS be around until someone buys Dixie Carter and him out. Plus Jarrett is friends with Jim Cornette, who hates Heyman. The more likely one is ROH, but even then they dont need him. Face it, the hardcore style is basically done with. Heyman looks ahead of everyone. In WWE he knew he may as well milk it for the money it's worth. People should really read EVERY online report. RVD doesnt want to leave WWE, he wanted time off. Well being "injured indefinitely"=time off. TNA needs different ownership that's where it's problems lie. Read crap Dixie Carter says, she loves whats on TNA. I wish when the rumors of Yukes/NJPW or Inoki buying TNA out would have came true. You cant fix a company when the top is as screwed up as the bottom. WWE, well they need to go back to pro wrestling. They put out all these great DVDs showing it, but they lack it. Writers arent needed. If a guy isnt good at promos, he shouldnt do promos. crapty writing wont help.*Repeats two more times and on the last one grabs Coach* |
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Post by Mark on Jun 21, 2007 3:50:19 GMT -5
Writers who actually know wrestling woulld be a start
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Post by cjd15 on Jun 21, 2007 5:07:29 GMT -5
Bischoff spoke the truth
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