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Post by highwayman on Jun 27, 2007 5:35:11 GMT -5
I'm also shocked at this viscious reaction of most "fans" against him. Some are like a pack of wolves just waiting to tear down someone. Shows they really didn't respect him or this business much. At times like this you get behind the person (if you did support him), not the other way around. Hopefully when you screw up big in life there'll be an angry mob waiting behind to pelt you to death too. Or perhaps people are just seeing him for the person he turned out to be in the end. so you're saying that the 40 previous years of his life don't matter at all, all that he has done and given to wrestling matter none, and were some kind of lie? That the only thing that mattered were those last few hours when he obviously lost his mind and any semblence of his self and did those monstrous things? If a man is judged only by his darkest hour on earth, than we must be living in hell itself because good luck finding someone who hasnt done something seriously bad.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jun 27, 2007 5:37:28 GMT -5
Or perhaps people are just seeing him for the person he turned out to be in the end. so you're saying that the 40 previous years of his life don't matter at all, all that he has done and given to wrestling matter none, and were some kind of lie? That the only thing that mattered were those last few hours when he obviously lost his mind and any semblence of his self and did those monstrous things? If a man is judged only by his darkest hour on earth, than we must be living in hell itself because good luck finding someone who hasnt done something seriously bad. Well kinda. Unless he cured Cancer, nothing he did the previous 40 years can be better or greater than what he did this past weekend. His last deed was his worse and was 'greater' in magnitude than anything he has ever done. Hence why he will go to hell and be remembered for being a scumbag, not a wrestler or whatever.
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Jun 27, 2007 5:39:50 GMT -5
Or perhaps people are just seeing him for the person he turned out to be in the end. so you're saying that the 40 previous years of his life don't matter at all, all that he has done and given to wrestling matter none, and were some kind of lie? That the only thing that mattered were those last few hours when he obviously lost his mind and any semblence of his self and did those monstrous things? If a man is judged only by his darkest hour on earth, than we must be living in hell itself because good luck finding someone who hasnt done something seriously bad. I can find many, many people who have not commited outrageous crime. The majority of people have not done the most henous act of all, killing your wife and most importantly your own creation, your own child. Will Mark David Chapman be remembered as a YMCA fitness counselor for children, or as the man who shot John Lennon?
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Post by highwayman on Jun 27, 2007 5:44:29 GMT -5
so you're saying that the 40 previous years of his life don't matter at all, all that he has done and given to wrestling matter none, and were some kind of lie? That the only thing that mattered were those last few hours when he obviously lost his mind and any semblence of his self and did those monstrous things? If a man is judged only by his darkest hour on earth, than we must be living in hell itself because good luck finding someone who hasnt done something seriously bad. Well kinda. Unless he cured Cancer, nothing he did the previous 40 years can be better or greater than what he did this past weekend. His last deed was his worse and was 'greater' in magnitude than anything he has ever done. Hence why he will go to hell and be remembered for being a scumbag, not a wrestler or whatever. wow. well remember those words when your time of judgment comes too. I am sure that you are absolutely positive you'll never do anything near as bad as Benoit did. Hopefully you won't. But I can also bet my f'n house that Benoit would have said the same thing too. I didn't know him personally, but I damn well positive the Chris Benoit that did those things was not the same man of the previous 40 years of his life. The thing is, people snap, and you can't stop it. In no way am I saying he's not responcible for his actions and that he doesn't deserve to be punished, but just remember that anyone at anytime can snap, no matter how convinced you are they can't.
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Post by highwayman on Jun 27, 2007 5:47:59 GMT -5
so you're saying that the 40 previous years of his life don't matter at all, all that he has done and given to wrestling matter none, and were some kind of lie? That the only thing that mattered were those last few hours when he obviously lost his mind and any semblence of his self and did those monstrous things? If a man is judged only by his darkest hour on earth, than we must be living in hell itself because good luck finding someone who hasnt done something seriously bad. I can find many, many people who have not commited outrageous crime. The majority of people have not done the most henous act of all, killing your wife and most importantly your own creation, your own child. Will Mark David Chapman be remembered as a YMCA fitness counselor for children, or as the man who shot John Lennon? Well you must be surrounded by angels then, because even Mother Theresa beat little kids. And I'm not talking about "outrageous crimes", or anything near what Benoit did, I'm saying everyone can make big mistakes that they cannot control and cannot explain how they allowed themselves to do that.
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Post by Goose Holla on Jun 27, 2007 5:48:31 GMT -5
Bush has done a lot of other stuff, but people will remember him as a murderer etc... Same with Benoit.
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Post by Fury on Jun 27, 2007 5:51:41 GMT -5
That's the thing with opinions on a subject like this, people are gonna force their opinion because they are obviously gonna be so biased towards one side. Even though there should be no sides, there are 3 people who were associated with the wrestling world now gone, that's the end of it, or should be. Hell we haven't even heard half the story of what we will know from the full story which we will never know. People are jumping to their own conclusions and forcing it down people and hopping on sides etc. It just really annoys me. I still find Benoit as a great wrestler who had some major problems that resulted in tragedy. But I class OJ Simpson as a great footballer.
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Jun 27, 2007 5:56:33 GMT -5
You know how people keep saying that Benoit is sick for watching Vengeance with his son, before killing him....how is that possible?
If the police have the time lines correct, Daniel died on Saturday, and guess what, that's a day before Sunday...
Just saying.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jun 27, 2007 6:14:19 GMT -5
It is seriously boggling my mind as to why some of you are still trying to defend Benoit. Why do you still have sigs of a ing murderer?? The man killed his wife and kid for christ sakes and you are still trying to defend him and praise him?? How messed up is that?? Seriously, please do all of us a favor and take that stuff down. You are praising a guy that murdered his wife and kid. Just take a few minutes and let that acutally sink in. Thank you.
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Post by bowdowntotheking on Jun 27, 2007 6:33:56 GMT -5
man i USED to cry ever time i watched WM20 but not now how can you support this guy
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Post by qwerty on Jun 27, 2007 7:07:44 GMT -5
Chris Benoit totally killed his legacy. He will NEVER ever be in the Hall Of Fame. When people look back on him, they will think more about his last moment than any of his good matches. Benoit is going straight to hell and thats exactly where he deserves to be after what he did.
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Post by T R W on Jun 27, 2007 7:11:37 GMT -5
Hmm...Lex Lugar is being interviewed on a local sports radio station for an hour about wrestling in general and the Benoit situation. He actually sounds less crazy than usual.
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Post by gordon on Jun 27, 2007 7:12:58 GMT -5
you are the craziest person that i have ever seen in my whole entire life like my whole f'n life .... crazier than Benoit himself? I think not. My opinions are as follows; - Who cares if he was on steroids because the chnaces are it was nothing to do with them. - He was obviously mentally ill or this was a burst of rage caused by an altercation between him and his wife. - His guilt must of been so bad that any judgment given wouldnt bother him further... he knows he did wrong, I guess he was damn right devestated when he done it... - I will always respect his ability in ring, I will never respect the man because even though he appeared nice... he obviously wasnt, he was a scumbag murderer of an innocent child.
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Post by T R W on Jun 27, 2007 7:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by Suckasays on Jun 27, 2007 7:15:43 GMT -5
I know there's no way to ever know this. But I'm just curious if the whole reason he went home was just to commit murder or if there was another reason why he went home beforehand.
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Post by highwayman on Jun 27, 2007 7:51:36 GMT -5
It is seriously boggling my mind as to why some of you are still trying to defend Benoit. Why do you still have sigs of a ing murderer?? The man killed his wife and kid for christ sakes and you are still trying to defend him and praise him?? How messed up is that?? Seriously, please do all of us a favor and take that stuff down. You are praising a guy that murdered his wife and kid. Just take a few minutes and let that acutally sink in. Thank you. perhaps you can try reading what people are saying and it won't be so "mind boggling". People have had sigs for people i've hated too, noone made them take them down.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jun 27, 2007 7:56:27 GMT -5
^ By showing a sig of that maniac, you are praising a ing murderer for christ sakes!! Can you not see that?? You and the rest of them must be in serious denial or something because there's no excuse for even wanting to show that sick . Seriously, please take that stuff down now because looking at his creepy face makes me want to ing puke.
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Post by noir on Jun 27, 2007 8:03:20 GMT -5
Last night, I decided to stay up and watch the news to see if they mentioned Benoit. When it came on, one of the clips they showed portrayed him getting his photos taken with some young boys (both were about 7 or so). He was laughing and smiling and play fighting with them and doing his best to be nice to them as he was probably one of their idols. I can't honestly believe that this same man who appeared SO nice would do this. At one point, I could probably say I hated him, but I think there was something up with that head of his. It's just so hard to grasp the fact that this seemingly genuine man could do such a thing. It's also a shame that he's ruined his legacy over the space of a couple of days. Why the hell did he do it?
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Post by highwayman on Jun 27, 2007 8:04:02 GMT -5
No, I'm just making a distingshion between Chris Benoit the in-ring performer and the worker everyone admired, and the Chris Benoit filled with demons in his personal life that did those things. I respected the former maybe more than anyone else in this business, and I chose to honour that side of him. The rest is up to the Gods to judge, I have no right to be damning anyone.
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Post by hbk007 on Jun 27, 2007 8:07:39 GMT -5
I can't respect the man, and I took him out of my sig but you guys make me ing sick. I do not see how all of you can condem his to hell when if you all actually believe in GOD then you know it would be wrong for you to do that. I know that this was a terrible tragedy but it seems like you guys are taking it a little too personal. I do not think you would react with so much anger if you heard about some Joe Somebody doing this in some little town.
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