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Post by Flyrfn144 on Dec 11, 2007 20:54:39 GMT -5
Would we really expect to see Bret in a WWE ring again after you know what?
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Post by Does that make me bad? on Dec 11, 2007 20:57:42 GMT -5
i really hate the rock now. I liked him when he was just a wrestler but i hate his movies
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Dec 11, 2007 22:47:20 GMT -5
There's no way anyone can logically say that The Rock and Bret not showing up was a good thing. RAW was good last night, but a lot of you are making it sound way better than it really was. Part of it, I'm sure, is the fact that the WWE has lowered everyone's standards so much with the quality of product they put out on a weekly basis, but still. The show was good, but not great. I would have traded every single one of the returns last night for a Rock/ Y2J promo.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Dec 11, 2007 23:06:16 GMT -5
How did The Rock "sell out"? He moved from one job to another that was more beneficial for him and his family and one that he loves. He doesn't owe the wrestling business anything and he doesn't completely ignore the wrestling business he's just moved on, Hulk Hogan tried the same thing and failed and he trashed the WWE but every time he needs a paycheck who does he come calling to? And that even makes the Rock's rare appearances even more special because they are random, unknown and are usually a special moment and not one where there are dozen's of other legends and that's all he's known as "another legend" and can make ordinary event extraordinary. Sure it'd be great to see The Rock back, but I've learned to accept that he's not a wrestler anymore, he's an actor and people need to accept that. It's not like he'll never make another appearance at a WWE event and when he does it'll make those nights much more special. first off, Dwayne owes WWE his whole career. without WWE there would never be a "Rock" or he wouldnt have "The Millions" wether its millions of fans or millions of dollers. really the thing that pisses me off is just how the rock returned that night after stone cold left and gave that speech. the whole thing about austin taking his ball and going home.(when really austins being more loyal to WWE while in retirement than Dwayne will ever be. Vince needs to call Austin once and he's on a plane to the next RAW) And he talked about how WWE will always be his home. last time i checked, when you leave home on good terms, you ussually come back from time to time instead of making a phone call once a year(live via sattelite). |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Dec 11, 2007 23:22:24 GMT -5
How did The Rock "sell out"? He moved from one job to another that was more beneficial for him and his family and one that he loves. He doesn't owe the wrestling business anything and he doesn't completely ignore the wrestling business he's just moved on, Hulk Hogan tried the same thing and failed and he trashed the WWE but every time he needs a paycheck who does he come calling to? And that even makes the Rock's rare appearances even more special because they are random, unknown and are usually a special moment and not one where there are dozen's of other legends and that's all he's known as "another legend" and can make ordinary event extraordinary. Sure it'd be great to see The Rock back, but I've learned to accept that he's not a wrestler anymore, he's an actor and people need to accept that. It's not like he'll never make another appearance at a WWE event and when he does it'll make those nights much more special. first off, Dwayne owes WWE his whole career. without WWE there would never be a "Rock" or he wouldnt have "The Millions" wether its millions of fans or millions of dollers. really the thing that pisses me off is just how the rock returned that night after stone cold left and gave that speech. the whole thing about austin taking his ball and going home.(when really austins being more loyal to WWE while in retirement than Dwayne will ever be. Vince needs to call Austin once and he's on a plane to the next RAW) And he talked about how WWE will always be his home. last time i checked, when you leave home on good terms, you ussually come back from time to time instead of making a phone call once a year(live via sattelite). You make it sound like The Rock has turned his back on the WWE and badmouthed them or something. He doesn't owe Vince or the WWE anything. The Rock paid his dues and carried the company on his back during the later stages of his career, so it's not like this is a case with Brock Lesnar where Vince pushed him to the moon within the span of 6 months only for him to walk out after 2 years. The Rock busted his ass and deserved his time in the spotlight. He's at a point right now where he doesn't need the WWE. I say, good for him. Why should he go back to wrestle if his heart isn't really in it? He's moved on, and I think it's time the fans did, as well. Does that mean he'll never show up again? Probably not. But to actually get upset when he doesn't show up for a big WWE show when they NEVER advertised him is just silly. Besides, if The Rock did come back to a role similar to that of Hogan, Foley or Austin, everybody would get sick of it. Look at how many people here have turned on Hogan, Austin and Foley because it's the same thing whenever they show up. If The Rock had one of those contracts, it would be fun for a while, but then everyone would get tired of it and we'd move on to the next thing. For all we know, that may be one of the reasons The Rock doesn't want to come back. He probably just wants be remembered for what he did in his prime rather than risk wearing out his welcome and getting stale. |
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Post by Fury on Dec 11, 2007 23:45:04 GMT -5
first off, Dwayne owes WWE his whole career. without WWE there would never be a "Rock" or he wouldnt have "The Millions" wether its millions of fans or millions of dollers. really the thing that pisses me off is just how the rock returned that night after stone cold left and gave that speech. the whole thing about austin taking his ball and going home.(when really austins being more loyal to WWE while in retirement than Dwayne will ever be. Vince needs to call Austin once and he's on a plane to the next RAW) And he talked about how WWE will always be his home. last time i checked, when you leave home on good terms, you ussually come back from time to time instead of making a phone call once a year(live via sattelite). You make it sound like The Rock has turned his back on the WWE and badmouthed them or something. He doesn't owe Vince or the WWE anything. The Rock paid his dues and carried the company on his back during the later stages of his career, so it's not like this is a case with Brock Lesnar where Vince pushed him to the moon within the span of 6 months only for him to walk out after 2 years. The Rock busted his ass and deserved his time in the spotlight. He's at a point right now where he doesn't need the WWE. I say, good for him. Why should he go back to wrestle if his heart isn't really in it? He's moved on, and I think it's time the fans did, as well. Does that mean he'll never show up again? Probably not. But to actually get upset when he doesn't show up for a big WWE show when they NEVER advertised him is just silly. Besides, if The Rock did come back to a role similar to that of Hogan, Foley or Austin, everybody would get sick of it. Look at how many people here have turned on Hogan, Austin and Foley because it's the same thing whenever they show up. If The Rock had one of those contracts, it would be fun for a while, but then everyone would get tired of it and we'd move on to the next thing. For all we know, that may be one of the reasons The Rock doesn't want to come back. He probably just wants be remembered for what he did in his prime rather than risk wearing out his welcome and getting stale. Perfectly said. Just adding to that. The Rock gave as much to the business as he recieved from it, therefore he doesn't owe anything since he gave it everything when he was in the WWF/E. As opposed to someone like Hogan who care's about himself much more than anything else in the business. The Rock is done with wrestling it's just the way it is, when someone else changes jobs that isn't made a job out of it. Acting just gives him so much more benefitial to himself and his family and it's not like he "sold out" per se for the money, because he has made many donations particularly to Miami U. His heart is in acting not in wrestling because it doesn't have to be. He didn't say "  you" to wrestling he just made a different career choice and good for him really. |
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Post by K5 on Dec 11, 2007 23:53:20 GMT -5
i hope bret never comes back, tbh. and i love bret.
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Post by rko88 on Dec 12, 2007 2:18:42 GMT -5
At the End thats what i thought was going to happen. after Mankind and Taker and Stone Cold, i thought it was just going to be pop after pop after pop and i would of loved it. To see Vince get the Mandableclaw, Chokeslammed Stunnered then Rock bottomed or even THE PEOPLES ELBOW after the Stunner when Vince was down and then to top it OFF Brets music hits and THE SHARPSHOOTER dude i would IN MARKED LIEK A SCHOOL GIRL! |
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Post by Mark on Dec 12, 2007 2:21:54 GMT -5
The Rock is going to be worth much much much much more than Hogan if he keeps his namesake close and not appearing alot Hes a smart buisness man...  |
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 12, 2007 2:39:31 GMT -5
I don't like using the term "sell-out" unless it's justified, and it definitely doesn't apply to this case.
Rock just found a career that he enjoyed more, was less of a toll on his body, and also paid very handsomely. I don't blame him for getting out of wrestling, especially since it was on a downward slope. I respect that he was a good wrestler with great mic skills who entertained millions of fans every week.
The only problem I have with his current career is the obvious concern for his image. Being an ex-pro-wrestler isn't exactly going to sit well with most people. They just won't take the guy seriously. If he distances himself from wrestling and less people notice his past, he'll probably be more successful. The problem I have with that is that now he's kind of keeping us in his closet. I wish he would've participated in something like last night. I don't expect him to return to the ring (although one last match would be lovely) but a Rock Bottom, some classic Rock smack talk, and a big exit or whatever isn't asking a lot. Even though he doesn't owe us anything, throwing us a bone once in a great while isn't that much to ask from the fans who loved him and continue to miss him.
There's no doubt that we'll see him again sometime. At least when that happens it'll be huge.
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Post by chumped on Dec 12, 2007 3:00:02 GMT -5
first off, Dwayne owes WWE his whole career. without WWE there would never be a "Rock" or he wouldnt have "The Millions" wether its millions of fans or millions of dollers. really the thing that pisses me off is just how the rock returned that night after stone cold left and gave that speech. the whole thing about austin taking his ball and going home.(when really austins being more loyal to WWE while in retirement than Dwayne will ever be. Vince needs to call Austin once and he's on a plane to the next RAW) And he talked about how WWE will always be his home. last time i checked, when you leave home on good terms, you ussually come back from time to time instead of making a phone call once a year(live via sattelite). You make it sound like The Rock has turned his back on the WWE and badmouthed them or something. He doesn't owe Vince or the WWE anything. The Rock paid his dues and carried the company on his back during the later stages of his career, so it's not like this is a case with Brock Lesnar where Vince pushed him to the moon within the span of 6 months only for him to walk out after 2 years. The Rock busted his ass and deserved his time in the spotlight. He's at a point right now where he doesn't need the WWE. I say, good for him. Why should he go back to wrestle if his heart isn't really in it? He's moved on, and I think it's time the fans did, as well. Does that mean he'll never show up again? Probably not. But to actually get upset when he doesn't show up for a big WWE show when they NEVER advertised him is just silly. Besides, if The Rock did come back to a role similar to that of Hogan, Foley or Austin, everybody would get sick of it. Look at how many people here have turned on Hogan, Austin and Foley because it's the same thing whenever they show up. If The Rock had one of those contracts, it would be fun for a while, but then everyone would get tired of it and we'd move on to the next thing. For all we know, that may be one of the reasons The Rock doesn't want to come back. He probably just wants be remembered for what he did in his prime rather than risk wearing out his welcome and getting stale. Very, very well said. |
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Post by gtm on Dec 12, 2007 7:14:48 GMT -5
yup! he really did he forgot who made him a "big" movie star.he really should have been there last night, thats why Austin is truely a legend he's a diffrent calibur to the rock and has alot more respect. Id of respected Hogan for showing up if he didnt use his time for a cheap plug for Gladiators! the Rock is a huge sellout and he will come crawling back when his movie carrer is over.By that point he will be too old and out of shape to be the rock we know. as for Bret well i wasnt expecting him at all. |
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Dec 12, 2007 7:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by James Hardy on Dec 12, 2007 9:58:42 GMT -5
I don't really think The Rock sold out.. I understand totally why he moved on, it makes much more sense to act rather than staying in the WWE beating his body up more than it already is. Acting is much easier on him, and probably more profitable too.
Obviously he's done everything he could possibly done in the WWE so there's no reason he should come back for more than a few appearances. I just wish he wouldn't have completely fazed wrestling out of his life. He wouldn't be an actor without wrestling, he should still show a bit of love every once and again to the WWE. Like the rumor that the WWE didn't put a DVD out for him because he didn't want to come back and promote it. That's just ungrateful.
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Dec 12, 2007 10:10:08 GMT -5
Only Andre the Giant would be bigger but he died. Yeah, as soon as his music hit, the crowd would go wild....oh wait. |
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Dec 12, 2007 10:14:32 GMT -5
I don't really think The Rock sold out.. I understand totally why he moved on, it makes much more sense to act rather than staying in the WWE beating his body up more than it already is. Acting is much easier on him, and probably more profitable too. Obviously he's done everything he could possibly done in the WWE so there's no reason he should come back for more than a few appearances. I just wish he wouldn't have completely fazed wrestling out of his life. He wouldn't be an actor without wrestling, he should still show a bit of love every once and again to the WWE. Like the rumor that the WWE didn't put a DVD out for him because he didn't want to come back and promote it. That's just ungrateful. Hell, Everybody comes back to promote their DVD...whether it be a one-off like Jake or Bret, an interview like Michael Hayes, or a failed return like Animal. |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 11:34:32 GMT -5
I never get why people say that. And I've said it over and over again, the next time we'll see The Rock on WWE programming will be at the HOF when he's inducted. And only then he'll be there to say 'goodbye' to the WWE fans. He's moved on to bigger and better things. And I for one hope for the best in pursuing his acting career. And what was so great about his 6 year career that makes him deserve the Hall of Fame? Because he can talk on a mic and make you laugh? Good lets induct Larry The Cable g uy while we're at it. He can make people laugh and make a bunch of straight to DVD B rated movies. Only way he deserves to be in the hall of fame is if hes inducting Steve Austin |
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Post by Mike Dell on Dec 12, 2007 12:04:27 GMT -5
lol, "Rock Sold out".. Kinda like how you guys are gonna sell out when you get offered 50 cents more per hour at Burger King than you are making at your minimum wage Wendys job? Give me a break, the Rock did what anyone would have done. He doesn't owe the "wrestling community" anything, the only people he owes anything to are himself and his family, and did what was best for them.
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 12:40:38 GMT -5
I think the problem isnt Dwayne giving up wrestling. Common sense says if you can make the same amount of money doing half the work then its the right choice. So he wants to save his body, ok thats great. At least you can do is show up a few times a year. Especially on shows like homecomming or the XV anniv show. Rock doesnt owe anything to wrestling?? Very simple who was The Rock before he became a wrestler? 2nd String Miami Hurricane? Please, If it wasnt for wrestling he would have been NO WHERE! If he doesnt want to have anything to do with wrestling then thats fine. Cut your ties, say thanks and NEVER refer to yourself as The Rock EVER again. If your not in the ring then you dont have the title "The Rock" make your next movie as Dwayne Johnson and see how many people go...Who?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2007 13:21:31 GMT -5
Would we really expect to see Bret in a WWE ring again after you know what? Would we really have expected a Bret DVD set, figures, shirts...after you know what happened? |
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