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Post by SWAP.avi on Aug 23, 2007 19:05:35 GMT -5
Do you realize that you just helped me in the argument by correcting yourself about Christian? Last time I saw Jeff Hardy in TNA, he got squashed by Monty Brown and then no-showed a PPV PRE-SHOW MATCH. So no, I don't think a Hardy would win a match in TNA. And it doesn't matter if Matt has paid his dues or not. He is not main event material, and like his brother, he never will be. Jeff>Christian LMAO. Matt's good, and dedicated. Jeff on the other hand, doesn't have crap on Christian. Christian can actually wrestle a match without botching a dozen moves.
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Post by Lemon-Aid on Aug 23, 2007 19:07:20 GMT -5
I'd love to see MVP get on the main-event scene in a couple of years.
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Post by christian1cage on Aug 23, 2007 19:09:34 GMT -5
Do you realize that you just helped me in the argument by correcting yourself about Christian? Last time I saw Jeff Hardy in TNA, he got squashed by Monty Brown and then no-showed a PPV PRE-SHOW MATCH. So no, I don't think a Hardy would win a match in TNA. And it doesn't matter if Matt has paid his dues or not. He is not main event material, and like his brother, he never will be. No, but if I remember correctly, Christian was a jobber on SD, until he was fired. WOW! As soon as Jeff Hardy was brought into TNA, he was MAIN EVENTING PPVs. The only real reason Jeff did not win the title is cause Jarrett was at the top and TNA was trying to keep a heel AKA Jarrett at the top. I will bet you Matt can win the World or WWE Title before he retires. Jeff>Christian Christian wasn't a jobber on Smackdown. But he was either a mid-carder or at best an upper mid-carder, I'll give you that. Christian wasn't fired. His contract was up, and he wanted out. Obviously WWE wasn't going to push someone that wasn't going to re-sign, that's just common sense. Hardy main evented one PPV because they had no other big names. They weren't going to put Monty Brown or Abyss in the main event of their first ever PPV, so it was down to Hardy and Raven. If you actually think Hardy had a chance of winning the NWA title, that's laughable. Matt will never win the world title. And I think you are one of the 10 people on this board that thinks Jeff > Christian.
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Post by foshizzle on Aug 23, 2007 19:12:14 GMT -5
LMAO. Matt's good, and dedicated. Jeff on the other hand, doesn't have **** on Christian. Christian can actually wrestle a match without botching a dozen moves. I accept your oppinoin. I just think of it like this. Jeff was ALWAYS the star in TLC and Ladder matches. Jeff can get the crowd excited and can always do something new in a match. Cage, just seems boring to me, as I perfer high flying awesome stunts. Cage can put on good 3 or possibly 4 star matches, but can you honestly name 3 amazing things Christian has done?
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Post by SWAP.avi on Aug 23, 2007 19:14:23 GMT -5
LMAO. Matt's good, and dedicated. Jeff on the other hand, doesn't have **** on Christian. Christian can actually wrestle a match without botching a dozen moves. I accept your oppinoin. I just think of it like this. Jeff was ALWAYS the star in TLC and Ladder matches. Jeff can get the crowd excited and can always do something new in a match. Cage, just seems boring to me, as I perfer high flying awesome stunts. Cage can put on good 3 or possibly 4 star matches, but can you honestly name 3 amazing things Christian has done? Well yeah Jeff was decent back in 98-01 dont get me wrong, but as of recent years he just seems to not be as entertaining anymore. I mean look at his last match with Kennedy, he landed on his neck. Its not the fact that Christian has done amazing things its the fact that hes damn good both in the ring and on the mic.
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Post by foshizzle on Aug 23, 2007 19:14:50 GMT -5
No, but if I remember correctly, Christian was a jobber on SD, until he was fired. WOW! As soon as Jeff Hardy was brought into TNA, he was MAIN EVENTING PPVs. The only real reason Jeff did not win the title is cause Jarrett was at the top and TNA was trying to keep a heel AKA Jarrett at the top. I will bet you Matt can win the World or WWE Title before he retires. Jeff>Christian Christian wasn't a jobber on Smackdown. But he was either a mid-carder or at best an upper mid-carder, I'll give you that. Christian wasn't fired. His contract was up, and he wanted out. Obviously WWE wasn't going to push someone that wasn't going to re-sign, that's just common sense. Hardy main evented one PPV because they had no other big names. They weren't going to put Monty Brown or Abyss in the main event of their first ever PPV, so it was down to Hardy and Raven. If you actually think Hardy had a chance of winning the NWA title, that's laughable. Matt will never win the world title. And I think you are one of the 10 people on this board that thinks Jeff > Christian. Christian barely won matches on SD, as I remember laughing at how many times he lost. Sure, I would rather watch a Christian match than a Bobby Lashley or Batista, but honestly, you have your oppinion and I have mine. BTW, I do not care if I am one of ten people on the board who think that, or if I am the only one.
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Post by capncharisma on Aug 23, 2007 19:16:02 GMT -5
without edge and undertaker, mvp is the best thing going on smackdown right now. he is what mr. kennedy was to SD last year. lets just hope they dont drop the ball with him too.
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Post by foshizzle on Aug 23, 2007 19:16:43 GMT -5
I accept your oppinoin. I just think of it like this. Jeff was ALWAYS the star in TLC and Ladder matches. Jeff can get the crowd excited and can always do something new in a match. Cage, just seems boring to me, as I perfer high flying awesome stunts. Cage can put on good 3 or possibly 4 star matches, but can you honestly name 3 amazing things Christian has done? Well yeah Jeff was decent back in 98-01 dont get me wrong, but as of recent years he just seems to not be as entertaining anymore. I mean look at his last match with Kennedy, he landed on his neck. Its not the fact that Christian has done amazing things its the fact that hes damn good both in the ring and on the mic. Hey, I never said Cage was not entertaining on the mic. He can put Hardy to shame with how good his mic skills are. I just think Hardy is the better preformer, and is willing to do anything for his fans
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Post by christian1cage on Aug 23, 2007 19:17:17 GMT -5
The only reason Hardy was a "star" in TLC matches was because he was a spot monkey. Christian has had many golden promos and some damn good matches. Christian lost a decent amount, but it was always to top guys like Orton, Batista, HBK, etc. On the other hand, Matt Hardy lost to Rob Conway.
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Post by foshizzle on Aug 23, 2007 19:19:38 GMT -5
The only reason Hardy was a "star" in TLC matches was because he was a spot monkey. Christian has had many golden promos and some damn good matches. Christian lost a decent amount, but it was always to top guys like Orton, Batista, HBK, etc. On the other hand, Matt Hardy lost to Rob Conway. Yeah, before going on to beat Edge, and then win the Tag Titles with Jeff. Then to be in the match of the year of 06, then go on to be placed in a feud with MNM, putting on the MOTN at D2D, to now go on and hopefully win the US in OCT. and win the tag belts in a week. Sounds like a good carrer for matt
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Post by timebombversion420 on Aug 23, 2007 19:20:32 GMT -5
One day Im sure he will if he dont get injured or something else happens but I use to hate him...but now I sorta dig him
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 23, 2007 19:22:00 GMT -5
The only reason Hardy was a "star" in TLC matches was because he was a spot monkey. Christian has had many golden promos and some damn good matches. Christian lost a decent amount, but it was always to top guys like Orton, Batista, HBK, etc. On the other hand, Matt Hardy lost to Rob Conway. And Christian has lost to Matt Hardy.
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Post by foshizzle on Aug 23, 2007 19:23:31 GMT -5
The only reason Hardy was a "star" in TLC matches was because he was a spot monkey. Christian has had many golden promos and some damn good matches. Christian lost a decent amount, but it was always to top guys like Orton, Batista, HBK, etc. On the other hand, Matt Hardy lost to Rob Conway. And Christian has lost to Matt Hardy.[/quote Other than TLC, has Cage ever beaten either Hardy?
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Post by RedwineRaider on Aug 23, 2007 19:29:11 GMT -5
Actually, Matt is being placed in this U.S. title program because Vince is wanting to get him worked into a lengthy title run with the U.S. belt.
If he does well with it, it's been in the works that he'll be placed in the main event scene for the WHC.
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Post by mercennario1080 on Aug 23, 2007 19:50:33 GMT -5
I would like him to be main eventing.
Maybe by like the end of 2008
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Post by christian1cage on Aug 23, 2007 19:51:48 GMT -5
The only reason Hardy was a "star" in TLC matches was because he was a spot monkey. Christian has had many golden promos and some damn good matches. Christian lost a decent amount, but it was always to top guys like Orton, Batista, HBK, etc. On the other hand, Matt Hardy lost to Rob Conway. Yeah, before going on to beat Edge, and then win the Tag Titles with Jeff. Then to be in the match of the year of 06, then go on to be placed in a feud with MNM, putting on the MOTN at D2D, to now go on and hopefully win the US in OCT. and win the tag belts in a week. Sounds like a good carrer for matt But not before getting DESTROYED by Edge at Summerslam. And big deal, he won 1 out of 3 against Edge. Christian beat Edge loads of times, big deal. His tag team title reign with Jeff sucked. What was the MOTY in 06? A MOTN at D2D could be ** since that PPV was horrendous. Tag titles mean nothing, it's just a prop for a storyline. The only way he'll become US champ is if they want to elevate MVP to the main event, which is actually the point of this thread. And what, Matt beat Christian, when, in like 2000? Who cares? Christian never really fought the Hardyz because he was above that.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 23, 2007 19:55:55 GMT -5
I sincerely hope not - he shouldn't even be the US champ... I can't fu*king stand him...
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Post by chumped on Aug 23, 2007 20:12:05 GMT -5
MVP will be champ one day. But does he deserve it now? No.
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Post by hammerhead on Aug 23, 2007 20:57:11 GMT -5
MVP has all the tools necessary to be World Champion. Only a matter of time before it happens.
Sorry to all the Hardy fans out there. He'll never wear the World Championship.
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Post by capncharisma on Aug 23, 2007 21:00:41 GMT -5
how did this go from mvp to christian vs. jeff hardy?
jeff hardy cant hold christian's wife's father's jock.... end of that argument.
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