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Post by Dan on Jan 15, 2008 4:34:45 GMT -5
Was an unreal thing to do. I'm still not convinced he was given the go ahead to do that move in particular off the Cage.
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Post by lashedout on Jan 15, 2008 4:40:01 GMT -5
To the guy that said Jeff Hardy can only get over by doing stunts. Id like to see a technical wrestler ever over by performing Boston Crabs and Sleeper Holds
As for the guy who said it was dangerous. Are you a little punse or something like that? Just be grateful that he risked his life for your entertainment. Jeff is a trained professional.
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Post by Silent Jay on Jan 15, 2008 5:15:30 GMT -5
To the guy that said Jeff Hardy can only get over by doing stunts. Id like to see a technical wrestler ever over by performing Boston Crabs and Sleeper Holds. Arn Anderson, Ric Flair, Chris Benoit, Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Ted Debiase. Shall i continue? OK Roddy Piper, Mr. Perfect, Taz (In ECW no less) William Regal, Ken Shamrock, Jeff Jarrett. I can name more if you like. |
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Post by lashedout on Jan 15, 2008 5:22:54 GMT -5
In the new generation of WWE. The only people who do care about technical wrestling are true wrestling fans. But 90% of wwe fans are not.
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Post by Silent Jay on Jan 15, 2008 5:45:14 GMT -5
In the new generation of WWE. The only people who do care about technical wrestling are true wrestling fans. But 90% of wwe fans are not. Then how is Triple H over? Cena? Batista? None of them take crzy high flippy disrespect to wrestling moves. Flairs still over, explain that. What about MVP, Finlay, JBL, Regal, CM Punk. No of those guys do the Jeff Hardy backyard bulls**t but are still over. |
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Post by Phoenix Nitro on Jan 15, 2008 6:11:14 GMT -5
HEY...While it's still there!
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Jan 15, 2008 6:12:33 GMT -5
It's on WWE.com anyway.
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Post by ericbischoff on Jan 15, 2008 6:18:44 GMT -5
That wasn't that risk, right? The camera not shows in the box when Jeff Hardy landing in the box. So I believe Randy Orton must move to side of the box and there a big crash mat under there, when Jeff Hardy landing it, and they suddenly move and make look like he actual landing on Orton.
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Post by hatebomb on Jan 15, 2008 6:19:17 GMT -5
Seriously, with Jeff doing all these insane stunts and everything, what kind of message do you think that is sending to all the kids in the crowd?? "Ah, you can do some crazy twisting, flying move off a cage, but don't worry about it, you'll be fine. You can climb a tower and jump off and crash to the mat below and you'll be fine, it's ok." I know WWE constantly shows those "Don't try this at home" stuff, but with Jeff constantly one-upping himself all the time with insane stunts time & time again, I just think it's sending out the wrong message. It's only a matter time before some kid in the crowd attempts one of Jeff's crazy stunts and ends up paralyzed or dead. It's not good at all. Jeff should stop before he goes too far, not that he hasn't went too far already, but you get the point. It's friggen wrestling. It's fake. When a wrestler punches another wrestler and the guy who gets punched barely flinches, does that send the message to kids that it's OK to punch your friends? And please don't even try to blame Jeff Hardy if some yard tards go out in their back yard and start jumping off of their roof's and crap like that. ECW and Mick Foley made a name on stuff like that long before Jeff Hardy ever did. |
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Post by Phoenix Nitro on Jan 15, 2008 6:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Jan 15, 2008 6:20:23 GMT -5
That wasn't that risk, right? The camera not shows in the box when Jeff Hardy landing in the box. So I believe Randy Orton must move to side of the box and there a big crash mat under there, when Jeff Hardy landing it, and they suddenly move and make look like he actual landing on Orton. We have a genius gracing us on the boards. |
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Post by JCF on Jan 15, 2008 7:08:54 GMT -5
It was a thing of beauty. Did you see it in slow mo? That was crazy.
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 15, 2008 7:34:24 GMT -5
i think our main concern should be the fact that Ricky Steamboat is missing so much hair on the top of his head  .....RIP Dragon Hair |
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Post by dancinfatass on Jan 15, 2008 7:39:17 GMT -5
In the new generation of WWE. The only people who do care about technical wrestling are true wrestling fans. But 90% of wwe fans are not. Then how is Triple H over? Cena? Batista? None of them take crzy high flippy disrespect to wrestling moves. Flairs still over, explain that. What about MVP, Finlay, JBL, Regal, CM Punk. No of those guys do the Jeff Hardy backyard bulls**t but are still over. If just because you were a good mat wrestler meant you were over, then why the hell is Charlie Haas a jobber that gets no reaction? It's because he doesen't have personality. To get over you need to have Charisma, an Attitude or a great Gimmick. Stunts also get you over. Most people today hate watching boring mat wrestling which is why people like Eddie, Angle, Jericho and Benoit who are (were) all great mat wrestlers resorted to adding aerial and stunt like moves to their sets. So shut up and learn about the business before you start talking. Oh and heres why the people got over that you listed, and it wasn't because they were "mat wrestlers" It's because they interacted with the fans through character,breath taking moments and wrestling. HHH = Stunts/Gimmick/Charisma/Attitude Cena = Previous Gimmick/Charisma Batista = Attitude Flair = Legend/Stunts (You cannot say he doesen't do insane stunts from time to time, MITB, takes sick bumps) MVP = Gimmick/Charisma Finlay = Attitude JBL = Attitude/Gimmick/Charisma Regal = Charisma/Gimmick CM Punk = Attitude/Charisma/Stunts Benoit = Stunts/Attitude Hart = Attitude/Charisma Owen = Stunts/Gimmick/Charisma M$M = Charisma/Gimmick Piper = Gimmick/Attitude/Charisma Mr. Perfect = Attitude/Charisma/Gimmick Taz = Attitude/Gimmick Shamrock (lol, who actually gave a crapabout him?) = Attitude Jarrett = Gimmick Jeff Hardy is over due to his Attitude and Stunts and minor charisma. |
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Jan 15, 2008 7:39:50 GMT -5
I find myself liking Hardy more and more, each week.
Put that in your pipes, and smoke it.
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Post by rawsmackdown89 on Jan 15, 2008 7:49:53 GMT -5
Spotmonkey is what Spotmonkey does
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Post by Silent Jay on Jan 15, 2008 7:58:01 GMT -5
Then how is Triple H over? Cena? Batista? None of them take crzy high flippy disrespect to wrestling moves. Flairs still over, explain that. What about MVP, Finlay, JBL, Regal, CM Punk. No of those guys do the Jeff Hardy backyard bulls**t but are still over. If just because you were a good mat wrestler meant you were over, then why the hell is Charlie Haas a jobber that gets no reaction? It's because he doesen't have personality. To get over you need to have Charisma, an Attitude or a great Gimmick. Stunts also get you over. Most people today hate watching boring mat wrestling which is why people like Eddie, Angle, Jericho and Benoit who are (were) all great mat wrestlers resorted to adding aerial and stunt like moves to their sets. So shut up and learn about the business before you start talking. Oh and heres why the people got over that you listed, and it wasn't because they were "mat wrestlers" It's because they interacted with the fans through character,breath taking moments and wrestling. HHH = Stunts/Gimmick/Charisma/Attitude Cena = Previous Gimmick/Charisma Batista = Attitude Flair = Legend/Stunts (You cannot say he doesen't do insane stunts from time to time, MITB, takes sick bumps) MVP = Gimmick/Charisma Finlay = Attitude JBL = Attitude/Gimmick/Charisma Regal = Charisma/Gimmick CM Punk = Attitude/Charisma/Stunts Benoit = Stunts/Attitude Hart = Attitude/Charisma Owen = Stunts/Gimmick/Charisma M$M = Charisma/Gimmick Piper = Gimmick/Attitude/Charisma Mr. Perfect = Attitude/Charisma/Gimmick Taz = Attitude/Gimmick Shamrock (lol, who actually gave a **** about him?) = Attitude Jarrett = Gimmick Jeff Hardy is over due to his Attitude and Stunts and minor charisma. So the Harts, Regal, Benoit, and Dibiase weren't technical wrestlers BS. What stunts does HHH do? What stunts did Owen do? Hardy is a disgrace to this business. He is a spot monkey. |
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Post by Cmaster05 on Jan 15, 2008 8:00:21 GMT -5
This always happen when somebody goes to main event. Somebody with start b*tchin' and moanin' about him or her. I mean, you can dislike the the guy, but you don't have to make a thread about it and try to cause World War 3! Gosh!
Jeff Hardy is a great wrestler, and also one with a lot of guts.
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Post by Batista on Jan 15, 2008 8:06:55 GMT -5
For Jeff, yes. If it wasnt for his silly little jumps, he wouldnt have the fan base he has.
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Post by dancinfatass on Jan 15, 2008 8:08:53 GMT -5
If just because you were a good mat wrestler meant you were over, then why the hell is Charlie Haas a jobber that gets no reaction? It's because he doesen't have personality. To get over you need to have Charisma, an Attitude or a great Gimmick. Stunts also get you over. Most people today hate watching boring mat wrestling which is why people like Eddie, Angle, Jericho and Benoit who are (were) all great mat wrestlers resorted to adding aerial and stunt like moves to their sets. So shut up and learn about the business before you start talking. Oh and heres why the people got over that you listed, and it wasn't because they were "mat wrestlers" It's because they interacted with the fans through character,breath taking moments and wrestling. HHH = Stunts/Gimmick/Charisma/Attitude Cena = Previous Gimmick/Charisma Batista = Attitude Flair = Legend/Stunts (You cannot say he doesen't do insane stunts from time to time, MITB, takes sick bumps) MVP = Gimmick/Charisma Finlay = Attitude JBL = Attitude/Gimmick/Charisma Regal = Charisma/Gimmick CM Punk = Attitude/Charisma/Stunts Benoit = Stunts/Attitude Hart = Attitude/Charisma Owen = Stunts/Gimmick/Charisma M$M = Charisma/Gimmick Piper = Gimmick/Attitude/Charisma Mr. Perfect = Attitude/Charisma/Gimmick Taz = Attitude/Gimmick Shamrock (lol, who actually gave a **** about him?) = Attitude Jarrett = Gimmick Jeff Hardy is over due to his Attitude and Stunts and minor charisma. So the Harts, Regal, Benoit, and Dibiase weren't technical wrestlers BS. What stunts does HHH do? What stunts did Owen do? Hardy is a disgrace to this business. He is a spot monkey. I never said they weren't mat wrestlers genious, HHH has been in every brtual match type ever made other than Money in The Bank which is TLC basically. Owen fell to his death... Enough said? |
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