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Post by inrogers29 on Jan 15, 2008 0:29:23 GMT -5
Is it really necessary for a wrestler to endanger his life to get over? This is not wrestling you guys. Someone's eventually going to get killed. Owen Hart called and told me to reply too late. |
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Post by Too Sweet on Jan 15, 2008 0:32:03 GMT -5
You know, I can appreciate seeing a great match, like Liger vs. Ultimo Dragon, or Bret Hart vs. Kurt Hennig... but to deny the love that Jeff MUST have for the fans and the business to put his body at risk is a slap in the face to call yourself a fan. Okay, so he DOESN'T chain wrestle and hit every damn move flawlessly, but he does ENTERTAIN a hell of a lot of fans, and has for many years now. Jesus, at least give the guy some respect trying to entertain all of you, at least he gets out there and literally busts his ass, while you all critique him over the internet, ruling that little keyboard with your iron fists. QFT, I'd like to see the Haters do what Jeff does, they would have already crapped their pants trying to jump off the turnbuckle I reckon. Thats how Jeff entertains people, and the People love it, you Wrestling marks might not but the Casual fans do, and thats what makes the WWE Money. |
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Post by @PaulGriffin on Jan 15, 2008 0:33:12 GMT -5
What was Jeff's crazy stunt exactly. I was at work and missed Raw. He did a swanton off the scaffolding by the stage onto Orton who was off of the stage in some contraption they had built for falling bodies. I'm convinced that people here just think its cool to start hating any face that starts to get over and pushed. I'm sure if Matt Hardy or Gregory Helms got pushed to the title as a fan favorite, this place would freak out. Who would you root for then to break the glass ceiling? |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 15, 2008 0:33:22 GMT -5
Is it really necessary for a wrestler to endanger his life to get over? This is not wrestling you guys. Someone's eventually going to get killed. Owen Hart called and told me to reply too late. Was that supposed to be funny?? Because it wasn't. Any attempted joke involving Owen Hart is not funny at all. You kinda sound like that dickwad Craig Kilborn trying to make humor at Owen's expense. |
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Post by @PaulGriffin on Jan 15, 2008 0:34:53 GMT -5
Owen Hart called and told me to reply too late. Was that supposed to be funny?? Because it wasn't. Any attempted joke involving Owen Hart is not funny at all. You kinda sound like that dickwad Craig Kilborn trying to make humor at Owen's expense. Naw, you can make a funny Owen Hart joke, its just a matter of delivery and content. This guy clearly isnt as funny as he thinks. Hell Daniel Benoit can be a punchline if you know how to compile a joke. |
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Post by mercennario1080 on Jan 15, 2008 0:36:40 GMT -5
What was Jeff's crazy stunt exactly. I was at work and missed Raw. He did a swanton off the scaffolding by the stage onto Orton who was off of the stage in some contraption they had built for falling bodies. I'm convinced that people here just think its cool to start hating any face that starts to get over and pushed. I'm sure if Matt Hardy or Gregory Helms got pushed to the title as a fan favorite, this place would freak out. Who would you root for then to break the glass ceiling? Matt deserves it, and yeah, maybe Jeff too, but the diference is Matt doesn't need to risk his life to get over, and Jeff does. Jeff would have never went over if it wasn't for the ladders and crazy spots he does. |
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Post by classicstars04 on Jan 15, 2008 0:38:38 GMT -5
He did a swanton off the scaffolding by the stage onto Orton who was off of the stage in some contraption they had built for falling bodies. I'm convinced that people here just think its cool to start hating any face that starts to get over and pushed. I'm sure if Matt Hardy or Gregory Helms got pushed to the title as a fan favorite, this place would freak out. Who would you root for then to break the glass ceiling? Matt deserves it, and yeah, maybe Jeff too, but the diference is Matt doesn't need to risk his life to get over, and Jeff does. Jeff would have never went over if it wasn't for the ladders and crazy spots he does. QFT bro |
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Post by @PaulGriffin on Jan 15, 2008 0:39:51 GMT -5
He did a swanton off the scaffolding by the stage onto Orton who was off of the stage in some contraption they had built for falling bodies. I'm convinced that people here just think its cool to start hating any face that starts to get over and pushed. I'm sure if Matt Hardy or Gregory Helms got pushed to the title as a fan favorite, this place would freak out. Who would you root for then to break the glass ceiling? Matt deserves it, and yeah, maybe Jeff too, but the diference is Matt doesn't need to risk his life to get over, and Jeff does. Jeff would have never went over if it wasn't for the ladders and crazy spots he does. That's so debatable. I dont cheer him every week because he leg dropped Edge last year through a ladder. I dont support him every week because of his swanton from X7. I do however love his unique style...Maybe i'm the only one that thinks like this and you're completely right though. |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 15, 2008 0:40:17 GMT -5
^ Yeah, I totally agree. Without the ladders and highspots, Jeff Hardy would not nearly be as over as he is and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. You take those away from Jeff and you are left with basically nothing for the guy.
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Post by inrogers29 on Jan 15, 2008 0:43:21 GMT -5
It wasnt supposed to be funny, I was saying it already has happened that something wrong has occured. It wasnt even supposed to be mean, I was just saying that things have gone wrong with stunts before.
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Post by classicstars04 on Jan 15, 2008 0:44:02 GMT -5
^ Yeah, I totally agree. Without the ladders and highspots, Jeff Hardy would not nearly be as over as he is and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. You take those away from Jeff and you are left with basically nothing for the guy. no he still has the hair haha. anyone think being called THE RAINBOW HAIRED WARRIOR didnt really help him in the longrun? It wasnt supposed to be funny, I was saying it already has happened that something wrong has occured. It wasnt even supposed to be mean, I was just saying that things have gone wrong with stunts before. like in Hot Rod ;D |
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Jan 15, 2008 0:53:57 GMT -5
dude, it wasnt even that high. its all camera angles. sure khali's tall, but not as big as the TV depicts it.
look at the straight view from the crowrd. its really not that big of a jump. and theyre landing on flat boxes man. its the same thing they use for stunt men in movies.
its not even jeff fault, its vince's. but i trust vince, because he always says he would never make a superstar do something he wouldnt do himself. (of in jeff's case, probably what shane wouldnt do. if shane says dont, then u dont lol. hes jumpes like 2 times Jeffs jump 2nite)
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Post by markallenkellner on Jan 15, 2008 0:59:35 GMT -5
I wasn't saying whether or not Jeff Hardy a good (or bad) wrestler. I'm just concerned that he will land the wrong way one day.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Jan 15, 2008 1:13:08 GMT -5
I wasn't saying whether or not Jeff Hardy a good (or bad) wrestler. I'm just concerned that he will land the wrong way one day. hes been wrestling professionally since 1993. hes been doing amature wrestling for years before. im about 98% sure he knows what how to do his signature moves, after doing them for over a decade. while were on the subject, are you concerned undertaker will break someones neck in a piledriver? Think HBK is gonna kill someone via a quick kick to the neck? |
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Post by inrogers29 on Jan 15, 2008 1:14:34 GMT -5
The only thing HBK is killing with SCM is a fly at best.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jan 15, 2008 1:21:54 GMT -5
I hate how everyone brings up the padded mat. Lets have Jeff kill himself and do it right to the floor. We can only hope he does that next! |
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Post by classicstars04 on Jan 15, 2008 1:23:35 GMT -5
The only thing HBK is killing with SCM is a fly at best. HBK > Halo |
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Post by markallenkellner on Jan 15, 2008 1:25:39 GMT -5
A Swanton Bomb is not a wrestling move, it's a stunt. From the height he dove, he could've broken his neck, I don't care if there's padding below. [glow=red,2,300]Don't insult my intelligence, little boy.[/glow] I wasn't saying whether or not Jeff Hardy a good (or bad) wrestler. I'm just concerned that he will land the wrong way one day. hes been wrestling professionally since 1993. hes been doing amature wrestling for years before. im about 98% sure he knows what how to do his signature moves, after doing them for over a decade. while were on the subject, are you concerned undertaker will break someones neck in a piledriver? Think HBK is gonna kill someone via a quick kick to the neck? |
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Post by chumped on Jan 15, 2008 1:30:23 GMT -5
You know, I can appreciate seeing a great match, like Liger vs. Ultimo Dragon, or Bret Hart vs. Kurt Hennig... but to deny the love that Jeff MUST have for the fans and the business to put his body at risk is a slap in the face to call yourself a fan. Okay, so he DOESN'T chain wrestle and hit every damn move flawlessly, but he does ENTERTAIN a hell of a lot of fans, and has for many years now. Jesus, at least give the guy some respect trying to entertain all of you, at least he gets out there and literally busts his ass, while you all critique him over the internet, ruling that little keyboard with your iron fists. QFT,
I'd like to see the Haters do what Jeff does, they would have already crapped their pants trying to jump off the turnbuckle I reckon.Thats how Jeff entertains people, and the People love it, you Wrestling marks might not but the Casual fans do, and thats what makes the WWE Money. I hate when people say "I would like to see YOU do it" as an excuse or some form of an insult. Because it is not an excuse or form of an insult. |
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Post by classicstars04 on Jan 15, 2008 1:32:56 GMT -5
when I get into wrestling school this June (UPW baby) and learn how to take bumps, ill tell you if its scary to jump twenty feet off a ladder. Sure, it takes adrenilane (sp, never could spell that damn word) but if you're willing to do it, do it. Many a wrestlers could do it, Londrick, Snuka Jr (Deuce), Morrison etc
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