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Post by takingyouout on Feb 9, 2008 19:32:29 GMT -5
cenas injury wasn't real Yeah it was. There were pics of him in surgery, and he has a scar.
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Post by uzerx on Feb 9, 2008 19:40:30 GMT -5
Him getting injured and coming back doesn't give him any talent.
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Feb 9, 2008 20:00:17 GMT -5
its the truth: nobody cares more for the fans but John Cena. name one person that returned from a real injury, 2 to 8 months ahead of schedule. and bull **** if you say "they diagnosed it wrong". that, Cena busted his ass, did his rehab, got in shape and all for the fans. This guy should be everyones favorite person (not wrestler, person) in the WWE today. And im laying a challenge to anyone who wants to prove me wrong. Never is there some negative story about Cena. Theres no $100 bills autographed to "Dip ****". Not only did you sound like a complete mark by saying that, but made me realise how AWESOME Orton still is for doing that. Haha! Cena's injury... not diagnosed wrong, not Cena working hard to get back sooner... it was an effin' work. WWE and Cena both knew Cena would be back by the Rumble, but they lied and told newsites, etc. that he wouldn't be back until WrestleMania. Awesome job by the WWE for pulling such a great swerve, but Cena DID NOT "bust his ass" to get back sooner. - Triple S Cena was actually said to be back around Summerslam. not mania.. And what about the insiders in WWE? now that cenas back, there would surley be talk about wether or not it was a real injury, or wether or not it only took 4 months to heel. and then it would be on sites. And i bet Orton would be anything BUT awesome if you get the chance to meet him. if you were in that situation i bet you'd cry like a lil bitch "Please dont drop my camera!! Please!! I praise you Orton!!"
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Post by v/\v on Feb 9, 2008 20:13:01 GMT -5
Him getting injured and coming back doesn't give him any talent. No, just the biggest pop in years at RR.
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Post by y2jplan on Feb 9, 2008 22:06:59 GMT -5
people hate cena so much for dumb reasons that its making me like him
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Post by Adam on Feb 9, 2008 22:15:59 GMT -5
Cena has three times the exposure Hogan had. Cena wrestles, and defeats, superstars every RAW. Mid-card guys like Cade and Murdoch, Johnny Nitro, Matt Striker, Tomko, and most recently, Mark Henry, are all victims of completely random matches dominated by Cena. He has literally beaten everyone on the RAW roster, maybe with one or two slight exceptions. Half those guys shouldn't be wrestling him, and he's certaintly not helping himself or them by squashing them. The Attitude Era? It wasn't all Austin and Rock. Austin wasn't even there for 2000. Undertaker had two healthy title reigns. Mick Foley was in and out of the spotlight. Triple H had several healthy reigns. Kane, British Bulldog, Big Show, Rikishi, all shuffled around. This wasn't even close to the Cena-dominated RAW we have now. How many PPVs hasn't he headlined since moving over to RAW? Vengeance 2006, No Mercy 2007, Survivor Series 2007, Armageddon 2007. I really think that is it. Is all of this a good thing? Maybe if we saw Cena's face less and stopped seeing the same moves (he was cheered going into the Rumble, then we he displayed his "new and improved" moveset, he was booed AGAIN), we'd hate him a little less. Well, saved me a post.
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Post by -Edge- on Feb 9, 2008 22:16:02 GMT -5
lmao who cares, we hate if we want.WTF r people going to do about it hahh
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Post by markallenkellner on Feb 9, 2008 23:29:04 GMT -5
I honestly can't believe that no one agrees with me on this one. I have seen way worse wrestlers than Cena and I don't think he's really that bad. The problem with him is: 1. He's shoved down our throats a la Hulk Hogan in the 80s 2. Him gimmick is getting stale 3. that damn spinner belt I thought Cena was great when was a heel. A heel turn would make his gimmick fresh, but as long as his merchandise sells, that's not going to happen any time soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2008 23:35:41 GMT -5
Not only did you sound like a complete mark by saying that, but made me realise how AWESOME Orton still is for doing that. Haha! Cena's injury... not diagnosed wrong, not Cena working hard to get back sooner... it was an effin' work. WWE and Cena both knew Cena would be back by the Rumble, but they lied and told newsites, etc. that he wouldn't be back until WrestleMania. Awesome job by the WWE for pulling such a great swerve, but Cena DID NOT "bust his ass" to get back sooner. - Triple S Cena was actually said to be back around Summerslam. not mania.. And what about the insiders in WWE? now that cenas back, there would surley be talk about wether or not it was a real injury, or wether or not it only took 4 months to heel. and then it would be on sites. And i bet Orton would be anything BUT awesome if you get the chance to meet him. if you were in that situation i bet you'd cry like a lil bitch "Please dont drop my camera!! Please!! I praise you Orton!!" For the record, I meant "after WrestleMania", but thats not important. Put it this way, Cena was on SOME sports show (I believe) about a week or 2 before the Rumble and said he was still healing. But then said "But hey, you never know...". WWE/Cena had been telling newsites that Cena wouldn't be back in time for WrestleMania for the past month or 2. Again, smart move by the WWE in not letting it leak and swerving the hell out of the fans once again. But looking at Cena on the Tribute to the Troops show... watch him pretty much not sell the injury when he FUed McMahon. If he was still healing and not to be back until after WrestleMana, they wouldn't have had him do the spot. As for the Orton situation, thats off topic. You want my opinion on that, feel free to PM me. But no, I wouldn't have "cried like a lil bitch". JOHN CENA as a wrestler is TERRIBLE and not that good on the mic, either. A wannabe Rock, which is the problem. Cena as a person, seems to be an amazing person. But like others have said, I will like and dislike who/what I will and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it, besides bitch. Which is what the thread starter has decided to do. - Triple S
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Post by Death Bear on Feb 9, 2008 23:37:00 GMT -5
Topic title got my hopes up, I thought he got reinjured :X
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Feb 10, 2008 0:24:31 GMT -5
Cena was actually said to be back around Summerslam. not mania.. And what about the insiders in WWE? now that cenas back, there would surley be talk about wether or not it was a real injury, or wether or not it only took 4 months to heel. and then it would be on sites. And i bet Orton would be anything BUT awesome if you get the chance to meet him. if you were in that situation i bet you'd cry like a lil bitch "Please dont drop my camera!! Please!! I praise you Orton!!" For the record, I meant "after WrestleMania", but thats not important. Put it this way, Cena was on SOME sports show (I believe) about a week or 2 before the Rumble and said he was still healing. But then said "But hey, you never know...". WWE/Cena had been telling newsites that Cena wouldn't be back in time for WrestleMania for the past month or 2. Again, smart move by the WWE in not letting it leak and swerving the hell out of the fans once again. But looking at Cena on the Tribute to the Troops show... watch him pretty much not sell the injury when he FUed McMahon. If he was still healing and not to be back until after WrestleMana, they wouldn't have had him do the spot. As for the Orton situation, thats off topic. You want my opinion on that, feel free to PM me. But no, I wouldn't have "cried like a lil bitch". JOHN CENA as a wrestler is TERRIBLE and not that good on the mic, either. A wannabe Rock, which is the problem. Cena as a person, seems to be an amazing person. But like others have said, I will like and dislike who/what I will and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it, besides bitch. Which is what the thread starter has decided to do. - Triple S agreed at the end. but i think that they really did think that cena would be gone for the 6-12 months. then cena worked hard enough, or found out he would be back wayy before schedule, told vince and vince kept it secret till the rumble. but it is weird i guess how he was able to do the FU to vince. IDK i guess until cena's allowed to speak on it we'll never know the actual truth
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Post by BASTARDKING on Feb 10, 2008 0:33:02 GMT -5
They need to do with Cena what they did with the Rock and turn him heel to see how credible he can be. What else can they do with him? He's already on top of the company
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Post by Lennon on Feb 10, 2008 0:41:58 GMT -5
Again, you can't blame the guy for being stale. It's the way he's being booked. Blame the "Creative" writers...
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Post by BASTARDKING on Feb 10, 2008 1:15:15 GMT -5
Again, you can't blame the guy for being stale. It's the way he's being booked. Blame the "Creative" writers... The creative writers can tell the worker what to do. They will tell the worker what to do. It's how the worker does it that matters because at the end of the day the worker, works the crowd. The crowd makes the worker. And just as quick as they can make him, they can turn on him. That is whats so crazy about the industry. You can go out and have all the emotional security as a face with the fans behind you, but as soon as they grow tired and want to see new faces, they will not stop to let you know. Thats what happend in this situation. John Cena is not stale, the people just got tired of credible workers putting him over. WWE builds new stars, but doesn't know what to do with them. Ala, Punk, Lashley and Shelton Benjamnin when he was getting his major push back in 2005-2006 (What the happend?)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2008 1:29:35 GMT -5
Yeah, so why not have him return in Madison Square Garden, where people boo you if your gimmick sucks or if they dont like you (Ex. Mysterio). And win the Rumble. And then wheres the next place theyre at? Philly, ECW Country where they are going to boo wreslters they think suck. John Cena had no chance of being cheered unless he returned somewhere other than the Upper East Coast.
I promise you wouldve heard a bigger reaction of cheers for Jericho if he came back in Philly, New York, Chicago, Detroit. Cena probably wouldve been cheered in Florida. Personally Cena shouldve stayed out until Mania and screw Orton out of title.
Its not our fault Cena wanted to bust his ass to come back. He of ALL people shouldve known he was going to get booed
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Feb 10, 2008 2:22:35 GMT -5
I personally didnt mind him back in 05 but after that he just hasnt been as entertaining. Its the same old and all the title runs are a factor for me.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Feb 10, 2008 6:51:21 GMT -5
Him and HHH can go away forever and that wouldn't be long enough...
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Feb 10, 2008 9:57:58 GMT -5
all i have to say is that the cena lovers need to stop getting mad because people dont like him, and calling those who dont like him sheep. who are you to tell anyone who they should or shouldnt like. people are entertained by different things, some being incredibly subtle. you have no right to call someone an idiot because they boo cena or cheer him for that matter. everyone IS entitled to their opinion, no matter how angry it makes you. many of these arguments, on both sides, are so poorly thought out that they are irrelevant. things such as "cena is the worst" "cena is the savior of wrestling because figures sold after he came back" are blatantly untrue. the bottom line is this, cena sells tickets, ppvs and merchandise....he is also beyond stale. the only thing you can do is agree to disagree. i have the utmost respect for cena, the man. he is all class. i just can no longer stomach the character. he is overexposed no matter what you say. he also puts on great matches, no matter what you say. i personally wish he had stayed gone for longer and wish that ANYBODY else is in the title picture. i can see reasons to love and hate cena, so both sides, just DEAL WITH IT ALREADY. this topic is beyond worn out.
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Post by Mark on Feb 10, 2008 12:19:31 GMT -5
bit of an over-exaggeration i'm sure No Not Really Yes, really. You kids don't even know what talking out of your ass means, let alone know how to even put up a corrective argument. But whatever you say, really only matters to you
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Post by tmxdragoon on Feb 10, 2008 15:32:37 GMT -5
I didn't care for cena when he first debuted and even now. Plain and simple, I just never liked the guy. He just doesn't entertain me. Sorry.
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