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Post by Iron Man on Mar 28, 2008 17:53:30 GMT -5
The last comment from SG further shows that NO MATTER WHAT TNA does, he will support it. I'm seriously thinking about no longer watch TNA and just reading spoilers instead. That way I can not waste 2 hours of my life, but rather 2 minutes. EDIT: And this would all be fine and make sense, if Angle and Joe were to compete at Lockdown in a "MMA" style match... but they aren't. - Triple S Wow.. because I support a more serious/real like wrestling show? If WWE was doing it would I would say the same thing. Seriously, TNA is damned if they do and damned if they don't. You people bitch "OMG THEY HAVE TO MUCH COMEDY" and now they're doing a "more serious" build and you bitch? Can you say hypocrite. Ok, so now all the comedy is gone? No, now it is just a comedy show with MMA on it.  |
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Post by tnafan4life on Mar 28, 2008 18:18:21 GMT -5
Wow.. because I support a more serious/real like wrestling show? If WWE was doing it would I would say the same thing. Seriously, TNA is damned if they do and damned if they don't. You people bitch "OMG THEY HAVE TO MUCH COMEDY" and now they're doing a "more serious" build and you bitch? Can you say hypocrite. Ok, so now all the comedy is gone? No, now it is just a comedy show with MMA on it. I'm talking about if they go the same way for ALL their storylines like they are doing with Kurt/Joe. Not now.. but if they change it. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Mar 28, 2008 18:23:32 GMT -5
See I have no problem with comedy on a wrestling show... the only problem is that it should actually be funny. TNA fails at having their comedy actually be funny... It's sad actually. I think you need a healthy mix of serious angles and FUNNY comedy... TNA fails at having both.
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Post by deskjet on Mar 28, 2008 18:31:20 GMT -5
The MMA flavor is what made 2001 through 2003 such an amazing period for WWE... Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, RVD, etc... go back and watch WWE's style of wrestling then and compare it now... it was hard hitting, it was quick, it didn't look choreographed and the excitement/intensity was there. MMA influence, if used correctly, isn't about bland fighter A vs. bland fighter B testing eachothers standup game before taking it to the ground... it's about making every wrestler's workrate and athleticism just as important as the characters they're portraying... if TNA is going for the latter, guys like Booker T, Black Reign, Rellik, Scott Steiner, etc. should start to disappear. No. WWe was just abetter product then, i dont think it has anything to do with the style |
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Post by deskjet on Mar 28, 2008 18:37:22 GMT -5
The last comment from SG further shows that NO MATTER WHAT TNA does, he will support it. I'm seriously thinking about no longer watch TNA and just reading spoilers instead. That way I can not waste 2 hours of my life, but rather 2 minutes. EDIT: And this would all be fine and make sense, if Angle and Joe were to compete at Lockdown in a "MMA" style match... but they aren't. - Triple S Wow.. because I support a more serious/real like wrestling show? If WWE was doing it would I would say the same thing. Seriously, TNA is damned if they do and damned if they don't. You people bitch "OMG THEY HAVE TO MUCH COMEDY" and now they're doing a "more serious" build and you bitch? Can you say hypocrite. I dont believe it's TNA's attempt to be more serious I think its an attempt to get soem MMA love. Whicha again is ok, if the Joe/Angle match was MMA styles. Why not build it that way...both wrestlers have beat each other in an all wrestling style match now what do they do in a MMA style match...TnA LOCKDOWN!!! Have the wrestling match go for 10 minutes, if no one wins then it switches to a mma bout with the winner being the one that knocks out or makes his opponent submit...BEAUTIFUL!!!! You can pull in mma stuff and everything next week. that's part of the problem wiht TNA. They have good ideas but dont take the time to develop anything. I mean i still enjoy the product but it could be so much better with these thrown together storylines better developed and ongoing ones ending sooner...roode/Booker |
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Post by moogie101 on Mar 28, 2008 19:46:11 GMT -5
Well Angle wrestled this way at the start of his ECW run & I think it's been established that the Lockdown title match will have a strong MMA feel to the match so setting the secene early for the fans.
I was always a big fan of UWFI so well happy with this myself.
Surely it's just TNA adding something different to the mix & seeing how fans react.
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Post by techn9ne77 on Mar 29, 2008 9:52:00 GMT -5
Well Angle wrestled this way at the start of his ECW run & I think it's been established that the Lockdown title match will have a strong MMA feel to the match so setting the secene early for the fans. Exactly. WWE were building Angle almost in an identical manner when he went over to the ECW brand. I don't have a problem with it because (1) it's building up to a match and (2) it beats them doing a retread of the Kurt/Karen/Joe storyline (where Karen just turns on Joe again). It's basically Angle preparing himself by training for his match with Joe doing what TNA should have hired and used him for in the first place: working great technical/stiff/submission matches with their homegrown talent. I always thought they should have booked Angle more like this when he first came to TNA for their first feud. Not to mention Joe had come off that undefeated streak where he was basically kicking and stiffing the sh*t out of people. Now... ... the problem I have is they should be doing a better job of booking Joe. They're showcasing Angle's submission and wrestling background, why not have Joe go out and destroy a few people like the Joe that ran roughshod over the X-Division? Let's be fair people. I, of all posters, have called TNA out on a number of things and engaged in many a debate with the resident TNA lovers, but this is a bit petty. Why shouldn't TNA capitalize on the popularity of MMA? Wrestling companies have always tried to capitalize on what's hot and hell, TNA is on a network that showcases the leader of that sport right now (UFC). I mean, it's not like they are having a Sumo match (Big Show/Akebono at Wrestlemania 21) or are having badly choreographed boxing matches either. And it certainly beats anything dealing with Nascar drivers, baseball players, and country singers. I agree somewhat with deskjet in that they could've done the MMA bit once to show that Angle is taking Joe serious and left it alone. One week of it would have sufficed, the next week they could have had a segment of Angle training in a different manner. I look at this no different than when WWE were showing Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart in training segments for their Iron Man Match back in 1997. Now if they were having an actual MMA match at Lockdown, I would have a problem with that because I don't want to see that. But simply as build-up to the match? Like I said I would much rather see this than any dysfunctional Angle couple segments or contract signings/disputes or any of that crap building up to the match. |
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Mar 29, 2008 14:31:47 GMT -5
because TNA sucks.
lets just be honest here.
WWE tried this years ago with those lions den matches and all that, and it tanked.
Pro wrestling is NOT mma. they shouldnt be mixed. its rediculous.
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on Mar 29, 2008 15:22:52 GMT -5
Let me get this straight.... Vince brings in celebrities or somehow incorperates popular culture into his shows and he's a genius, TNA does it and they're a piggybacking, bush league fed? When did he praise McMahon anywhere in the quote above? And besides that, Vince never put his new tag team belts on K-Fed or Mayweather and doesn't incorporate a baseball player match every six months. I didn't say that Vince was praised, I'm saying that it's equally stupid when both companies bring in celebrities. Most people seem to be waiting for something to bash TNA for. All I'm saying is, if you're going to bash TNA for something, then the WWE should get it to (when they do the same, or similar things). Let me get this straight.... Vince brings in celebrities or somehow incorperates popular culture into his shows and he's a genius, TNA does it and they're a piggybacking, bush league fed? I love how the blind WWE marks here will swallow all the **** the McMahon machine throws at them, while attacking anyone who defends TNA. Sure it sucks right now, but the WWE has sucked since 2001, why is no one calling them on it? Are you seriously comparing Floyd Mayweather (someone with no apparent personal problems at the moment) to Pacman Jones (someone who's facing felony charges for a shooting at a strip club in addition to all the **** he's done before)? Well, I'm comparing them in the sense that neither of them need o be anywhere near a wrestling ring. I don't care about their personal problems, I'm not entertained by either of them. Let me get this straight.... Vince brings in celebrities or somehow incorperates popular culture into his shows and he's a genius, TNA does it and they're a piggybacking, bush league fed? I love how the blind WWE marks here will swallow all the **** the McMahon machine throws at them, while attacking anyone who defends TNA. Sure it sucks right now, but the WWE has sucked since 2001, why is no one calling them on it? have you been to the wwe board....that's all people do is complain. and tna sucking has nothing to do with wwe sucking...like it's ok for tna to suck because wwe sucks too? that's horrible logic. I never said that TNA sucking has anything to do with the WWE sucking. And it isn't ok for either fed to suck. I never said anything even remotely similar to that. Is there anyone here that can read something and be able to correctly comprehend what they just read??? |
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Post by T1 on Mar 29, 2008 17:22:29 GMT -5
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Post by eso on Mar 29, 2008 17:53:09 GMT -5
it's actually one of my favorite things in wrestling in YEARS. im loving the build for joe vs angle
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on Mar 29, 2008 22:07:07 GMT -5
Then why the did you bring WWE into the conversation? I'm not answering this question again. Go reread my post. |
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Post by wrestlingvader1 on Mar 29, 2008 22:16:00 GMT -5
because TNA sucks. lets just be honest here. WWE tried this years ago with those lions den matches and all that, and it tanked. Pro wrestling is NOT mma. they shouldnt be mixed. its rediculous. Yes TNA sucks but they can get away with this MMA like feel why because UFC is hot as hell right now, second their on the same network wth UFC, 3rd they got two great wrestlers pulling it off and last they need a serious angle right now with all the other silly shyt their doing this just feels right this is the best thing TNA has done in awhile now the only thing they have to do put the cherry on top is to let Joe win the belt . |
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Post by tnatherealdeal on Apr 2, 2008 20:19:28 GMT -5
i hear a whole lot of crying going on these days from fans...there is always a lot of crap that goes on in wrestling that's a good reason why wwe was changed to "entertainment." It's a big soap opera...i guarentee that fans only watch it for one reason: to see what happens next. Hell i do it myself sometimes...even with TNA. Impact had a great show about 2 or 3 weeks ago...they had almost 6 matches with little talking. WWE doesn't know how to shut up and wrestle a lot of times. TNA finds themselves doing the same thing. They need to quit copying other stuff and find their own original style. WWE and UFC is not their style. Kurt Angle can go to UFC for all i care. He's got a natural talent for UFC style fighting. Samoa Joe has his own unique style of wrestling. He's a ruthless and hardcore competitor. So are guys like Jay Lethal, AJ Style and Motor City. They need to quit bringing in old guys nobody gives a crap about anymore. I swear to God if i have to see Booker T fight Robert Rhoode again i think i'll kill myself. There is not a whole lot we as fans can do about the nonsense that goes on. In my opinion TNA would be a great competition to WWE if they would go back to straight up wrestling...leave out the 20 minute segments and 2 minute matches...ever since they went 2 hours it's gotten worse almost...they pretty much screwed up everything they possibly could have when they went live last week. We need title shots on impact what the hell happened to that? Title matches end up on PPV's who does that sound like...WWE. Be your own company TNA you have excellent potential so it's time to step up guys...It seems like they went from TNA to WCW in a matter of a couple years...so SHUT UP and wrestle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2008 1:05:01 GMT -5
i hear a whole lot of crying going on these days from fans...there is always a lot of crap that goes on in wrestling that's a good reason why wwe was changed to "entertainment." It's a big soap opera...i guarentee that fans only watch it for one reason: to see what happens next. Hell i do it myself sometimes...even with TNA. Impact had a great show about 2 or 3 weeks ago...they had almost 6 matches with little talking. WWE doesn't know how to shut up and wrestle a lot of times. TNA finds themselves doing the same thing. They need to quit copying other stuff and find their own original style. WWE and UFC is not their style. Kurt Angle can go to UFC for all i care. He's got a natural talent for UFC style fighting. Samoa Joe has his own unique style of wrestling. He's a ruthless and hardcore competitor. So are guys like Jay Lethal, AJ Style and Motor City. They need to quit bringing in old guys nobody gives a crap about anymore. I swear to God if i have to see Booker T fight Robert Rhoode again i think i'll kill myself. There is not a whole lot we as fans can do about the nonsense that goes on. In my opinion TNA would be a great competition to WWE if they would go back to straight up wrestling...leave out the 20 minute segments and 2 minute matches...ever since they went 2 hours it's gotten worse almost...they pretty much screwed up everything they possibly could have when they went live last week. We need title shots on impact what the hell happened to that? Title matches end up on PPV's who does that sound like...WWE. Be your own company TNA you have excellent potential so it's time to step up guys...It seems like they went from TNA to WCW in a matter of a couple years...so SHUT UP and wrestle. Oh i do agree with everything u said! |
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