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Post by greensborohill on Mar 6, 2006 11:26:26 GMT -5
What are your thoughts?
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Post by T R W on Mar 6, 2006 12:05:33 GMT -5
I don't know anything about it honestly. I have been wrapped up in the DC Universe lately. The only Marvel I have been reading is Wolverine Origins, Spiderman/Black Cat, and The Hulk. I also read the 6 issues of House of M (or was it 8). But that's it. Please feel free to to expand upon this.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Mar 6, 2006 12:09:53 GMT -5
I'm excited for it!
I can't wait to see who is willing to give up their IDs to the government and who will stand and fight for their freedom. The fact Spider-Man is going to be confused about what do worrys me but hopefully it'll work out.
I have high hopes for this.
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Post by greensborohill on Mar 6, 2006 12:20:48 GMT -5
I don't know anything about it honestly. I have been wrapped up in the DC Universe lately. The only Marvel I have been reading is Wolverine Origins, Spiderman/Black Cat, and The Hulk. I also read the 6 issues of House of M (or was it 8). But that's it. Please feel free to to expand upon this. Not sure myself, from what I've been told, it's gonna be Tonk Stark versus Capt. A on the issue of mutant registration. One against it and one for it (not sure which one is for and against). |
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Post by greensborohill on Mar 6, 2006 12:21:34 GMT -5
I'm excited for it! I can't wait to see who is willing to give up their IDs to the government and who will stand and fight for their freedom. The fact Spider-Man is going to be confused about what do worrys me but hopefully it'll work out. I have high hopes for this. Are they all gonna be in the Avenger books or their own series? |
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Post by T R W on Mar 6, 2006 12:37:34 GMT -5
Is it going to be a mini-series, or an ongoing plot-line in the Marvel stories.
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Mar 6, 2006 12:57:40 GMT -5
It's a cross over.
There's a mini series, Civil War. Three tie in minis called Civil War Frontline, X-men: Civil War and Runaways/Young Avengers. Then there are tie in arcs in ongoings series like Amazing Spider-Man, New Aveners, She-Hulk, Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts and that's it so far.
It's not the mutant registration act, it's the superhero registration act meaning everyone with powers has to register or if they become outlaws. Some characters will agree it's for the security of the country while others will want their IDs secret still and won't give them up. It's meant to splilt up teams, destroy friendships, create new relationships and turn people (bad to good, good to bad).
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Post by Thumper: One Year Later on Mar 6, 2006 16:26:46 GMT -5
It's a cross over. There's a mini series, Civil War. Three tie in minis called Civil War Frontline, X-men: Civil War and Runaways/Young Avengers. Then there are tie in arcs in ongoings series like Amazing Spider-Man, New Aveners, She-Hulk, Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts and that's it so far. It's not the mutant registration act, it's the superhero registration act meaning everyone with powers has to register or if they become outlaws. Some characters will agree it's for the security of the country while others will want their IDs secret still and won't give them up. It's meant to splilt up teams, destroy friendships, create new relationships and turn people (bad to good, good to bad). From a "non-marvel fan's" pov, it sounds very interesting. It sounds like it is inspired by the government's wire tapping and things like the patriot act and other measures taking to track terrorists, only with the superheroes being treated like terrorsist. Maybe i'll read the graphic novel version, but the story does sound very intriguing. I just hope it doesn't turn out out to have some "bush-bashing" agenda subliminally put into it. |
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Post by J Sylar on Mar 7, 2006 16:14:59 GMT -5
It's by Mark Millar. It'll have a "Bush bashing" undertone, you can bet on that. Its a topical type of story, and I doubt that it'd even exist without Bush trampling civil liberties in the real world.
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Post by cosmicspidey on Mar 7, 2006 18:42:24 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Captain America will side with the secret IDers on this, and Iron Man will side with the public IDers. Even though it'd be going against his country, Cap would think it's more important to protect the rights of the individual. And since Iron Man is anti-secret ID, Spider-Man would have to be since he agreed to stick behind Tony, even though revealing his ID is something Spidey definitely would not like to do. Here's some folks and which side I think they'll take:
Pro-secret ID: Cap, She-Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Daredevil (duh), Runaways, Luke Cage (now that he's a daddy)
Anti-secret ID: Iron Man, Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, Fantastic Four, Hank Pym, Sentry
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Mar 8, 2006 7:12:06 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Captain America will side with the secret IDers on this, and Iron Man will side with the public IDers. Even though it'd be going against his country, Cap would think it's more important to protect the rights of the individual. And since Iron Man is anti-secret ID, Spider-Man would have to be since he agreed to stick behind Tony, even though revealing his ID is something Spidey definitely would not like to do. Here's some folks and which side I think they'll take: Pro-secret ID: Cap, She-Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Daredevil (duh), Runaways, Luke Cage (now that he's a daddy) Anti-secret ID: Iron Man, Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, Fantastic Four, Hank Pym, Sentry I dunno... Tony has gone to great lengths to get his secret ID back. He also was going to great lengths to hide Spider-Man's ID when he died for the protection of MJ and Aunt May. That's one of the interesting things I think, there are arguements for both guys being on both sides. |
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Post by greensborohill on Mar 8, 2006 7:30:41 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Captain America will side with the secret IDers on this, and Iron Man will side with the public IDers. Even though it'd be going against his country, Cap would think it's more important to protect the rights of the individual. And since Iron Man is anti-secret ID, Spider-Man would have to be since he agreed to stick behind Tony, even though revealing his ID is something Spidey definitely would not like to do. Here's some folks and which side I think they'll take: Pro-secret ID: Cap, She-Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Daredevil (duh), Runaways, Luke Cage (now that he's a daddy) Anti-secret ID: Iron Man, Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, Fantastic Four, Hank Pym, Sentry I dunno... Tony has gone to great lengths to get his secret ID back. He also was going to great lengths to hide Spider-Man's ID when he died for the protection of MJ and Aunt May. That's one of the interesting things I think, there are arguements for both guys being on both sides. Do you know if anything that pertains to the civil war comes out today? The only thing that I subscribe to that comes out today is New X-Men. I'm also gonna read my roommates Sentinel ONE & 198 |
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Mar 8, 2006 7:51:57 GMT -5
I dunno... Tony has gone to great lengths to get his secret ID back. He also was going to great lengths to hide Spider-Man's ID when he died for the protection of MJ and Aunt May. That's one of the interesting things I think, there are arguements for both guys being on both sides. Do you know if anything that pertains to the civil war comes out today? The only thing that I subscribe to that comes out today is New X-Men. I'm also gonna read my roommates Sentinel ONE & 198 Not this week. Did you get the last Amazing Spider-Man issue from a week or two ago? That is part of "The Road to Civil War". |
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Post by greensborohill on Mar 8, 2006 8:58:54 GMT -5
Do you know if anything that pertains to the civil war comes out today? The only thing that I subscribe to that comes out today is New X-Men. I'm also gonna read my roommates Sentinel ONE & 198 Not this week. Did you get the last Amazing Spider-Man issue from a week or two ago? That is part of "The Road to Civil War". Heard about it, w/ Stark asking Spidey to promise to be on his side. . . . |
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Post by T R W on Mar 8, 2006 9:00:25 GMT -5
I may wait for the trades for this. I am very interested in this, but keeping up with the DC Universe right now is occupying all of my time and money.
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Post by Raoul the Great on Mar 8, 2006 15:07:52 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Captain America will side with the secret IDers on this, and Iron Man will side with the public IDers. Even though it'd be going against his country, Cap would think it's more important to protect the rights of the individual. And since Iron Man is anti-secret ID, Spider-Man would have to be since he agreed to stick behind Tony, even though revealing his ID is something Spidey definitely would not like to do. Here's some folks and which side I think they'll take: Pro-secret ID: Cap, She-Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Daredevil (duh), Runaways, Luke Cage (now that he's a daddy) Anti-secret ID: Iron Man, Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, Fantastic Four, Hank Pym, Sentry Luke Cage... somehow I don't think it matters. Seriously, if I were a hero using me real name, I would just sit this one out. Here Uncle Sam, my name is Luke Cage... but secretly I am LUKE CAGE (Power Man when I had a fro!) |
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Post by Raoul the Great on Mar 8, 2006 15:10:27 GMT -5
This story has potential, but Marvel has a nasty habit of fizzling out stories, especially if it means disrupting the status quo. I will probably get the actual mini-series.
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Post by cosmicspidey on Mar 9, 2006 2:57:13 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Captain America will side with the secret IDers on this, and Iron Man will side with the public IDers. Even though it'd be going against his country, Cap would think it's more important to protect the rights of the individual. And since Iron Man is anti-secret ID, Spider-Man would have to be since he agreed to stick behind Tony, even though revealing his ID is something Spidey definitely would not like to do. Here's some folks and which side I think they'll take: Pro-secret ID: Cap, She-Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Daredevil (duh), Runaways, Luke Cage (now that he's a daddy) Anti-secret ID: Iron Man, Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel, Fantastic Four, Hank Pym, Sentry Luke Cage... somehow I don't think it matters. Seriously, if I were a hero using me real name, I would just sit this one out. Here Uncle Sam, my name is Luke Cage... but secretly I am LUKE CAGE (Power Man when I had a fro!) I just felt the need to get all the New Avnegers on there. |
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Post by doogle on Mar 9, 2006 16:27:39 GMT -5
I believe Cap will be for telling his ID..since everyone knows he's Steve Rogers by now...
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Post by Crimson Arrow on Mar 10, 2006 7:06:50 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if your ID is already know. It's basically means you'd be under the governments thumb and would have to fill out forms and such every time you beat a bad guy, you'd become a super powered cop. And crossing the line with an enemy (killing etc.) when it HAS to be done could get you in trouble. Some guys won't agree with this and some won't think people should be forced to give up their IDs, even if they themselves already have.
The Fantastic Four look like they will be on different sides too and their IDs have been public from the get go.
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