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Post by [MJH] on Apr 10, 2008 19:18:40 GMT -5
Wow. all you damn athiests, satanists, or whatever cool fad term you wanna call yourselves anymore... ill see you all in hell  God exists. and you people who dont believe in him... you are wrong/ end topic. Whats up with these dumb ass kane people.  god, religion, and the bible. It's all uneducating garbage made up stories. All of you christians, catholics, and whatever you other things are, tell me how the world was made. Oh and when you say " God made it" and I say " Then who made god?" Dont say, " Because he's god, he's the creator." or " He is the supreme being, he creates all" Give a logical explanation. ok I don't wanna defend that devout I like Kane guy but think of this way, everything is created by something except for one thing, the one thing is the source of all life and therefore the creator and IMO that's God. I don't define God as a person or someone or something that gives a damn about our lives I define God as whatever started it all, if two balls of energy colliding together created everything then I think of it in two ways, the balls of energy basically are God or that it would be impossible for the two balls of energy to collide unless something moved them and that something would be God. I now have a question for you give me any scenario where it is impossible to say there's a God in some definition. Also while I'm here I'm gonna address you religion haters, there's nothing wrong with religion and we all live by religion in some way or another. I don't agree with all of religion or devoting your life to it but following certain teachings of religion is good such as to respect your fellow man or basically just to not kill anybody, if it wasnt for religion we may still think killing each other is ok and we'd still be a bunch of savages. Jesus probably was the son of god in some respects as everthing is created by God so therefore everyone is God's offspring and that maybe what Jesus meant and he was just a good person trying to spread peace. I hope some of you guys actually read this rather than just continuing to argue. |
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Post by boskstein on Apr 10, 2008 19:21:53 GMT -5
Whats up with these dumb ass kane people. god, religion, and the bible. It's all uneducating garbage made up stories. All of you christians, catholics, and whatever you other things are, tell me how the world was made. Oh and when you say " God made it" and I say " Then who made god?" Dont say, " Because he's god, he's the creator." or " He is the supreme being, he creates all" Give a logical explanation. ok I don't wanna defend that devout I like Kane guy but think of this way, everything is created by something except for one thing, the one thing is the source of all life and therefore the creator and IMO that's God. I don't define God as a person or someone or something that gives a damn about our lives I define God as whatever started it all, if two balls of energy colliding together created everything then I think of it in two ways, the balls of energy basically are God or that it would be impossible for the two balls of energy to collide unless something moved them and that something would be God. I now have a question for you give me any scenario where it is impossible to say there's a God in some definition. Also while I'm here I'm gonna address you religion haters, there's nothing wrong with religion and we all live by religion in some way or another. I don't agree with all of religion or devoting your life to it but following certain teachings of religion is good such as to respect your fellow man or basically just to not kill anybody, if it wasnt for religion we may still think killing each other is ok and we'd still be a bunch of savages. Jesus probably was the son of god in some respects as everthing is created by God so therefore everyone is God's offspring and that maybe what Jesus meant and he was just a good person trying to spread peace. I hope some of you guys actually read this rather than just continuing to argue. (air pounds) |
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Post by chumped on Apr 10, 2008 19:22:19 GMT -5
Whats up with these dumb ass kane people. god, religion, and the bible. It's all uneducating garbage made up stories. All of you christians, catholics, and whatever you other things are, tell me how the world was made. Oh and when you say " God made it" and I say " Then who made god?" Dont say, " Because he's god, he's the creator." or " He is the supreme being, he creates all" Give a logical explanation. ok I don't wanna defend that devout I like Kane guy but think of this way, everything is created by something except for one thing, the one thing is the source of all life and therefore the creator and IMO that's God. I don't define God as a person or someone or something that gives a damn about our lives I define God as whatever started it all, if two balls of energy colliding together created everything then I think of it in two ways, the balls of energy basically are God or that it would be impossible for the two balls of energy to collide unless something moved them and that something would be God. I now have a question for you give me any scenario where it is impossible to say there's a God in some definition. Also while I'm here I'm gonna address you religion haters, there's nothing wrong with religion and we all live by religion in some way or another. I don't agree with all of religion or devoting your life to it but following certain teachings of religion is good such as to respect your fellow man or basically just to not kill anybody, if it wasnt for religion we may still think killing each other is ok and we'd still be a bunch of savages. Jesus probably was the son of god in some respects as everthing is created by God so therefore everyone is God's offspring and that maybe what Jesus meant and he was just a good person trying to spread peace. I hope some of you guys actually read this rather than just continuing to argue. We do, and we are  |
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Post by [MJH] on Apr 10, 2008 19:26:12 GMT -5
ok I don't wanna defend that devout I like Kane guy but think of this way, everything is created by something except for one thing, the one thing is the source of all life and therefore the creator and IMO that's God. I don't define God as a person or someone or something that gives a damn about our lives I define God as whatever started it all, if two balls of energy colliding together created everything then I think of it in two ways, the balls of energy basically are God or that it would be impossible for the two balls of energy to collide unless something moved them and that something would be God. I now have a question for you give me any scenario where it is impossible to say there's a God in some definition. Also while I'm here I'm gonna address you religion haters, there's nothing wrong with religion and we all live by religion in some way or another. I don't agree with all of religion or devoting your life to it but following certain teachings of religion is good such as to respect your fellow man or basically just to not kill anybody, if it wasnt for religion we may still think killing each other is ok and we'd still be a bunch of savages. Jesus probably was the son of god in some respects as everthing is created by God so therefore everyone is God's offspring and that maybe what Jesus meant and he was just a good person trying to spread peace. I hope some of you guys actually read this rather than just continuing to argue. We do, and we are you can be an bunghole and make a stupid comment but if the majority of people thought murder was ok we'd have gone extinct. And if you truly believe killing another person no matter what their crime is, is ok then i seriously think you need to get help. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 10, 2008 19:30:36 GMT -5
Last time I checked about 2/3 of people supported the death penalty. That's murder. So, most people do think murder is ok.
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Post by chumped on Apr 10, 2008 19:32:54 GMT -5
We do, and we are you can be an bunghole and make a stupid comment but if the majority of people thought murder was ok we'd have gone extinct. And if you truly believe killing another person no matter what their crime is, is ok then i seriously think you need to get help. I wasn't trying to be an ass hole with my comment. Look at the news everyday dude. Savages is a spot on word for the people who commit all of these crimes. People are murdered every single day, someone obviously thinks its right. And like Slappy said, look at the death penalty. Hell, I support that 100%, and so do TONS of people. I guess we are savages. |
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Post by [MJH] on Apr 10, 2008 19:33:53 GMT -5
Last time I checked about 2/3 of people supported the death penalty. That's murder. So, most people do think murder is ok. well yeah that's out of america but would those 2/3 actually kill a person with their own hands? The death penalty is sick and not so many people would be for it if it meant they had to do the killing themselves. |
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Post by [MJH] on Apr 10, 2008 19:36:21 GMT -5
you can be an bunghole and make a stupid comment but if the majority of people thought murder was ok we'd have gone extinct. And if you truly believe killing another person no matter what their crime is, is ok then i seriously think you need to get help. I wasn't trying to be an ass hole with my comment. Look at the news everyday dude. Savages is a spot on word for the people who commit all of these crimes. People are murdered every single day, someone obviously thinks its right. And like Slappy said, look at the death penalty. Hell, I support that 100%, and so do TONS of people. I guess we are savages. well murderers only take up a small percent of the world which is why we here about it so much as it's news if it was common then it wouldnt be news worthy and like i said people wouldnt be for the death penalty if it meant they had to do the killing themselves. basically you two are just arguing that murder isnt wrong ecause that's all i said, i said religion has some good teachings like not to murder. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 10, 2008 19:37:58 GMT -5
You'd be surprised at the number of people who would actually kill the person that receives the death penalty.
Because, I'm betting a lot actually would.
I'm not arguing that murder is right.
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Post by chumped on Apr 10, 2008 19:39:35 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to be an ass hole with my comment. Look at the news everyday dude. Savages is a spot on word for the people who commit all of these crimes. People are murdered every single day, someone obviously thinks its right. And like Slappy said, look at the death penalty. Hell, I support that 100%, and so do TONS of people. I guess we are savages. well murderers only take up a small percent of the world which is why we here about it so much as it's news if it was common then it wouldnt be news worthy and like i said people wouldnt be for the death penalty if it meant they had to do the killing themselves.basically you two are just arguing that murder isnt wrong ecause that's all i said, i said religion has some good teachings like not to murder. I'd gladly snap a child molesters neck, or whatever I had to do to kill him, and think nothing of it. |
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Post by [MJH] on Apr 10, 2008 19:41:46 GMT -5
You'd be surprised at the number of people who would actually kill the person that receives the death penalty. so basically you're saying murder is ok. Honestly killing someone makes you no better than them so it's a stupid punishment a fair punishment is to lock these people up and make them miserable rather than killing them putting them outta their misery and basically making yourself a murderer. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 10, 2008 19:41:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure if pedophiles get the death penalty.
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Post by slappy on Apr 10, 2008 19:42:43 GMT -5
lol. I'm not saying murder is right. I'm against the death penalty in all cases.
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Post by captain master talbot on Apr 10, 2008 19:42:53 GMT -5
I'm not sure if pedophiles get the death penalty. Child Molesters/Pedos are on the bottom of the prison food chain, so I wouldn't be surprised if their death penalty came not from the needle, but from a sharpened toothbrush and/or chicken bone. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Apr 10, 2008 19:45:06 GMT -5
Flying Spaghetti Monster all the way!!!
But seriously. I think in this time to still cling to false idols is really strange. If you turly follow the bible it's full of god doing horrible things, often out of spite. Then letting his son die and basically disappearing after that. Religions are so muddled up now, and spew hate for no reason.
Religion in many ways has done more harm than good through the ages, and should be abolished. Heck, the only reason we believe so hard in the US is because the communists in the 50s where atheists. That's why our money says in god we trust, and why our pledge says Under God. And now idiotic people won't let those things be removed, like it will make us less of america.
I could rant for hours, but I won't. I'll just leave you with this...
Religious people are really the same as atheists. There are a great many gods that they don't believe in. Atheists just went one step further.
Also, if there are people out there who don't know who Richard Dawkins is, you should. Watch some of his lectures on Youtube or read his books (notable the selfish gene and the God Delusion). Even if he doesn't change your mind, it might shine light on a few things.
And PS, I don't mean to offend anyone. But it just seems to me that religious people don't look logically at what they believe. They believe in dogmas that mellinia old, and follow blindly. I don't think there's very many religious people who could consider themselves more moral than me, though I don't think I'm above many of them either. But they sit on their high horse and refuse to hear any other arguement. If you ask someone why they believe, very few give you an honest answer, they just get defensive because you don't.
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Post by [MJH] on Apr 10, 2008 19:45:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure you only get the death penalty for murder in the first and second degree. Honestly the only argument that i can agree with for the death penalty is crawdedness of prisons if everyone was locked up rather than killed but that is such a minor issue and these people shouldnt be killed just locked up with no freedom.
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Post by slappy on Apr 10, 2008 19:47:10 GMT -5
I know that this is way off topic, but if you want to free up room, don't put drug dealers and users in jail. Treat them all and it frees up a ton of room.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Apr 10, 2008 19:53:56 GMT -5
Yes, I do.
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Post by [MJH] on Apr 10, 2008 19:54:48 GMT -5
I know that this is way off topic, but if you want to free up room, don't put drug dealers and users in jail. Treat them all and it frees up a ton of room. yeah I only really consider space such a minor issue though. |
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Post by K5 on Apr 10, 2008 21:24:55 GMT -5
And you know what really PO's me? When people say they dont believe in God or Jesus and then they celebrate Christmas or accept gifts. COME ON YOU IDIOTS. that's called western culture and marketing, it really has nothing to do with your god. and you know you're silly for beleiving, deep down. |
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