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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2008 22:28:47 GMT -5
What do you think was the best WWF LJN figure?
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ICHIBAN 一番
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Post by ICHIBAN 一番 on Apr 12, 2008 1:38:38 GMT -5
...its gotta be the ultimate warrior, great pose, rare figure.
.... and his arm sticks out just enough to deliver a brutal clothesline on rick rude.........who cannot do anthing about it as hes got his hands stuck to his hips for all eternity. lol.
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Post by redypiper on Apr 12, 2008 14:18:35 GMT -5
warrior is def one of them. maybe i feel that way because of how hard it was for me to get mine. (damn ebay snipers lol) the 89 hogan is very accurate. i always liked terry funk and bret hart is pretty awesome too. i dont know there are so many good ones it's hard to pick just one.
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Post by msenger76 on Apr 12, 2008 16:03:57 GMT -5
haku....if only he came with the crown
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Post by GoldenHulk on Apr 12, 2008 16:53:05 GMT -5
I never have liked the Warrior figure that much. It just never looked ripped and muscular enough to be him, but the pose and outfit work well. I like Hogan '89 in red and yellow, The British Bulldogs, and King Kong Bundy.
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Post by ihavethepower on Apr 12, 2008 17:41:25 GMT -5
So many to choose from.
The only real bad figures in the line are because of likenesses not resembling the wrestler or because the scale was off.
Here are the scale problem figures. Do keep in mind that for that line, Andre the Giant and Big John Studd should be the biggest figures. When other figures are bigger or as big, then that is a problem:
Wonderful Rude Valentine Beefcake Patera Boss Man
As for likenesses, there were few figures that just missed the mark:
Andre version 1 Snuka Arcidi (in my opinion)
However, there were several dozen of these figures produced with only 8 listed above as being "bad". The first series had the mistake of those "squat poses" which made some figures hard to stand up (try getting Studd or Hogan to stand on their own)
Look at Jim Brunzell and tell me there is a better likeness anywhere. Heenan, 89 Hogan, Haku, Muraco, Bruno, Fuji, Ax, Slick. Those figures are damn near perfect likenesses.
My personal favorite is the 89 Hogan. It looks more like a sculpture than anything else and captures a classic Hogan pose.
Like I said though. There are so many good looking figures in that line that it's hard to choose.
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Post by greenmist on Apr 15, 2008 1:29:23 GMT -5
I agree with you about Andre version 1. His face looks terrible; absolutely zero resemblance to Andre.
Arcidi would have looked better with a deep tan. Also, his shoes should not have been black. They should have been done just like the ones shown in the poster that came with Arcidi; white shoes with red stripes. About the '89 Hogan, I prefer the rare red & yellow one over the common one with red trunks because it's not accurate. Hogan never wore red trunks in the WWF. The trunks should have been white. Also, there was no such thing as a white Hulkamania T-shirt with red lettering. It should have been a white shirt, but with the AMERICAN MADE design instead.
This got me thinking if there was any WWF rep at LJN to veto other mistakes that LJN produced:
George Steele - he never wore kneepads so those should have been removed
Nikolai Volkoff - he looked great except he would have looked even better if they gave him pale skin color
King Kong Bundy - same thing; he would have looked better with pale skin color
Ultimate Warrior - the opposite goes for him; who knows why they made him so pale? He would have looked awesome with a nice tan.
Ken Patera - skin is a bit too dark. His tights and boots were incorrectly made with a purplish color. He would have looked better as he was shown on the prototype pic with blue tights and black boots.
Can anyone add some other LJN mistakes?
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Post by ihavethepower on Apr 15, 2008 12:45:36 GMT -5
I agree with you about Andre version 1. His face looks terrible; absolutely zero resemblance to Andre. Arcidi would have looked better with a deep tan. Also, his shoes should not have been black. They should have been done just like the ones shown in the poster that came with Arcidi; white shoes with red stripes. About the '89 Hogan, I prefer the rare red & yellow one over the common one with red trunks because it's not accurate. Hogan never wore red trunks in the WWF. The trunks should have been white. Also, there was no such thing as a white Hulkamania T-shirt with red lettering. It should have been a white shirt, but with the AMERICAN MADE design instead. This got me thinking if there was any WWF rep at LJN to veto other mistakes that LJN produced: George Steele - he never wore kneepads so those should have been removed Nikolai Volkoff - he looked great except he would have looked even better if they gave him pale skin color King Kong Bundy - same thing; he would have looked better with pale skin color Ultimate Warrior - the opposite goes for him; who knows why they made him so pale? He would have looked awesome with a nice tan. Ken Patera - skin is a bit too dark. His tights and boots were incorrectly made with a purplish color. He would have looked better as he was shown on the prototype pic with blue tights and black boots. Can anyone add some other LJN mistakes? I love being able to talk with other LJN enthusiasts that know what they are talking about. Completely agree with every point you made. Especially the White version 88 Hogan. While the pose is as accurate as you can get, the color scheme for the red and white one is way off as you said. An American Made version LJN with the appropriate belt, would've kicked all forms of ass back in the day. I do not like the Warrior figure because the hair is too compact to his head. A bushier hairstyle would've made the figure better and I cannot stand the tassles being molded to the body. Maybe a rubber accessory that would've snapped around the arms, similiar to the JYD collar, but except it would've wrapped around the biceps for the tassles to hang off of the body. I generally find the black card series to be a mixed bag, ranging from excellent (Haku figure) to cartoonish faces (Warrior, Rude), to confusing (mixing Warlord's P of P face with his singles look of wearing trunks), to lazy (Heel Andre should've had a new facial expression instead of a smile). As for mistakes, there are some obvious ones. Like Piper coming in red trunks when he always wore blue ones. The 1st version Hogan was way too thin and cut. Aside from all of that, there are some EXCELLENT looking figures in this line. To name a few that are the cream of the crop: Kamala Adonis Funk Hercules (his gladiator look was captured perfectly) Jimmy Hart Mean Gene Bam Bam Hillbilly Jim Koko DiBiase Race Outback Jack The above figures are just from the top of my head that stick out as having great likenesses to the actual wrestler. There is no reason why these figures cannot be re-released as a "Classics" line all by themselves. They would be cheaper to make and you could have hundreds of them. Imagine the different versions of Steamboat you could have? The Original ninja version, the WM3 version, the fire breathing Dragon version. Not to mention, you could make versions of people who are already signed to Legends Deals and finally get that Brother Love, Bad News, Bushwhackers, Smash, Barbarian, etc etc. An in-ring version of Honky and Dibiase maybe? A Giant Gonzalez? Imagine an LJN set of Kings that includes Race, Haku, Duggan, Savage, Lawler, Mabel, Booker. A Moolah? A Sherri? A Giant's set of Andre, Gonzalez, Big Show, Khali? In scale even? I know collectors would mark out huge for these ideas.
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Post by Kreese on Apr 15, 2008 15:03:19 GMT -5
Terry Funk is the best figure for me. So many greats though.
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Post by greenmist on Apr 16, 2008 1:12:21 GMT -5
Haku - I agree he's one of the best from the black card series. The detail on his tights is amazing; just like the ones he wore in Royal Rumble '90. heel Andre - very lazy on their part. Not only leaving the smile, but how did they end up putting the strap on the wrong shoulder when the prototype pic below has it on the correct one: Prototype LJNs usually look MUCH better/colorful than the finished product; such as Roddy Piper, Ricky Steamboat, and George Steele. The one exception were the finished product looked better than the prototype is Rick Rude: I am very glad they opted to forget about the simple green tights and plain white boots to go ahead with the multi colored tights and pink boots. Some other LJN mistakes I just remembered: Hart Foundation - black boots on both of them! Nope, 0 for 2 British Bulldogs - wrong color for the tights; they should have used a bright red color instead Billy Jack Haynes - they paid so much attention to detail on his tattoos and wristbands that they forgot to give him kneepads. This figure would have been a perfect 10 if kneepads would have been included - green or yellow Magnificent Muraco - they also forgot to give him kneepads. He did wear red trunks, but very rarely. He should have been given blue or black trunks instead. Cowboy Bob Orton - kneepads should have been black, not green. The face on the Orton figure is just off. It does not resemble him. Big Boss Man - nice figure, but there is a small mistake. The "BIG BOSS MAN" patch is on the wrong pocket Bam Bam - cool figure, but also very lazy. They did not even bother to paint the back of his tights. He also should have been given tattoos on his arms.
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Post by GoldenHulk on Apr 16, 2008 2:49:11 GMT -5
Also, there was no such thing as a white Hulkamania T-shirt with red lettering. It should have been a white shirt, but with the AMERICAN MADE design instead. I respectfully disagree. There was indeed a white "Hulkamania" shirt with red lettering. It was a commercially released shirt and I had one when I was a kid. However, I never recall seeing Hogan actually WEARING that particular shirt. Also, Hart Foundation did wear black boots early early in their time as a team. The boots are correct for the era in which the figures were released. I'd rather focus on the positive things about the line, but I do remember being bothered as a kid by a lot of the little things you mentioned in your posts. Harley Race's jacket he never actually wore (he had a cape) comes to mind as an inaccurate outfit that drove me nuts.
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Post by craigisnutter on Apr 16, 2008 4:40:52 GMT -5
For me Warrior, Haku, Warlord and Bundy are the best bar a country mile.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Apr 16, 2008 6:01:04 GMT -5
For me, I've always liked The Macho Man Randy Savage and Big John Studd.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Apr 16, 2008 7:56:20 GMT -5
I've always thought the Warlord, Ax, and Ultimate Warrior figures looked tremendous... but I never owned them, so I base that only on seeing them in pictures over the years.
Of the figures I owned, I always liked Jake Roberts. I thought it looked very cool, especially with Damien as an accessory.
I liked Koko B. Ware until I took him out of the package and it dawned on me that every "match" I put him in vs. other LJN figures, he'd be wearing his molded-on entrance jacket. For a kid, that's a pretty big deal. Although don't get me wrong -- molded jacket Koko was way better than no Koko at all!
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Post by greenmist on Apr 16, 2008 10:52:00 GMT -5
Also, there was no such thing as a white Hulkamania T-shirt with red lettering. It should have been a white shirt, but with the AMERICAN MADE design instead. I respectfully disagree. There was indeed a white "Hulkamania" shirt with red lettering. It was a commercially released shirt and I had one when I was a kid. However, I never recall seeing Hogan actually WEARING that particular shirt. Also, Hart Foundation did wear black boots early early in their time as a team. The boots are correct for the era in which the figures were released. My memory now recalls that Bret Hart had a variety of different boots early on (black, dark red, silver, blue). However, Neidhart I remember only wearing white boots and he never wore those black kneepads.
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Post by JWLJN on Apr 17, 2008 0:32:45 GMT -5
Haku and Harley. For whatever reason the jacket, albeit inaccurate, never really bothered me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2008 8:39:11 GMT -5
I think the Slick figure was the best.
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Post by jlavaia on Apr 28, 2008 22:47:43 GMT -5
Funk and Dynamite Kid
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Post by greenmist on May 9, 2008 11:55:08 GMT -5
Another one of my favorite LJNs was Ax from Demolition. I always wondered why they made him with the same exact pose as the Jesse Ventura figure. Could it be that LJN used the Ventura mold?
Another thing that made zero sense is why did they make Ax without making Smash? Imagine if they had just made Dynamite Kid only without making Davey Boy or vice versa.
With the Warlord, I understand the situation why a Barbarian was not made because the company went out of business after the black carded series 6. However, Ax was released as part of series 5. They could have released Smash as part of series 6. The back of the series 6 cards shows they were planning on making Smash, Barbarian, Bushwackers, Bad News Brown, & Brother Love, but the company folded soon after.
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Post by whydraft2 on May 9, 2008 14:08:26 GMT -5
89 hogan, Savage and Warlord
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