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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 23:29:25 GMT -5
The NWO should not have gained any memebers. It should have stayed the original three. The fact that every match in WCW contained a NWO member most the time goes to show you how stupid it really was. People can praise WCW all the want and can bring up the ratings, but the NWO (post original) is on of the main reason I hated WCW.Well that and Goldberg
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Post by markallenkellner on Apr 22, 2008 22:30:26 GMT -5
I always said that Bobby Heenan should've been the manager of the original nWo
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Post by Too Sweet on Apr 24, 2008 2:25:11 GMT -5
I really felt that the nWo should have had the following guys;
- Hulk Hogan - Kevin Nash - Scott Hall - Giant - Syxx - Scott Steiner - Buff Bagwell
And NO-ONE Else, I mean what did Curt Henning or Scott Norton bring to the nWo? Or even Stevie Ray for gods sake, I could understand how Bishoff wanted to have 2 Organizations go against eachother but when it gets to the point where most of the Mid/Main Event carders are in the nWo, the nWo winning a title just gets pointless, IMO I reckon the nWo should have had most Ex-WWF Wrestlers to give it that "Take-Over" feel to it, then just have WCW Originals like DDP, Sting, Luger, Booker T, Benoit, Goldberg ect.. go head to head to the point where the WCW finally defeated the nWo and then just get rid of some of the old talent like Hogan, Savage, Henning ect.. step down and let guys like Eddie, Raven and others step up, we would have seen a completely different WCW.
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Post by Mastermind on Apr 26, 2008 14:39:54 GMT -5
i think hogan,hall,nash,giant,syxx,and dibiase was all the nwo had that they needed..now for someone i thought should have been in..sherri martel for sure..
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Post by Returnal on Apr 27, 2008 9:23:24 GMT -5
I really felt that the nWo should have had the following guys; - Hulk Hogan - Kevin Nash - Scott Hall - Giant - Syxx - Scott Steiner - Buff Bagwell And NO-ONE Else, I mean what did Curt Henning or Scott Norton bring to the nWo? Or even Stevie Ray for gods sake, I could understand how Bishoff wanted to have 2 Organizations go against eachother but when it gets to the point where most of the Mid/Main Event carders are in the nWo, the nWo winning a title just gets pointless, IMO I reckon the nWo should have had most Ex-WWF Wrestlers to give it that "Take-Over" feel to it, then just have WCW Originals like DDP, Sting, Luger, Booker T, Benoit, Goldberg ect.. go head to head to the point where the WCW finally defeated the nWo and then just get rid of some of the old talent like Hogan, Savage, Henning ect.. step down and let guys like Eddie, Raven and others step up, we would have seen a completely different WCW. Yes everyone always says to push the young guys. Sure Guerrero and Raven were talented but can you see Raven main eventing the number 1 company in the United States? Compare a Kevin Nash pop to a Raven pop. And it's not like WCW didnt try push new guys. They tried it alot and the fans usually didnt respond so they went back to Hogan, Flair, Savage, Hall and Nash
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Apr 27, 2008 10:43:53 GMT -5
I really felt that the nWo should have had the following guys; - Hulk Hogan - Kevin Nash - Scott Hall - Giant - Syxx - Scott Steiner - Buff Bagwell And NO-ONE Else, I mean what did Curt Henning or Scott Norton bring to the nWo? Or even Stevie Ray for gods sake, I could understand how Bishoff wanted to have 2 Organizations go against eachother but when it gets to the point where most of the Mid/Main Event carders are in the nWo, the nWo winning a title just gets pointless, IMO I reckon the nWo should have had most Ex-WWF Wrestlers to give it that "Take-Over" feel to it, then just have WCW Originals like DDP, Sting, Luger, Booker T, Benoit, Goldberg ect.. go head to head to the point where the WCW finally defeated the nWo and then just get rid of some of the old talent like Hogan, Savage, Henning ect.. step down and let guys like Eddie, Raven and others step up, we would have seen a completely different WCW. Yes everyone always says to push the young guys. Sure Guerrero and Raven were talented but can you see Raven main eventing the number 1 company in the United States? Compare a Kevin Nash pop to a Raven pop. And it's not like WCW didnt try push new guys. They tried it alot and the fans usually didnt respond so they went back to Hogan, Flair, Savage, Hall and NashThe only new guy WCW truly pushed to the main event level in the Nitro era was Goldberg. Everyone else got TV time, but once they got to a certain level, it was made clear to the viewers that this guy was a step or two below the true main eventers. Either they got squashed on TV, or their gimmick became comedy, or they were booked so that they only cared about the cruiserweight title... it was always made clear that rooting for a guy like Jericho, Konnan, Rey Mysterio, Guerrero or Benoit for anything other than midcard success would have been pointless. Only after seven WCW wrestlers (the Radicals, Shane Douglas, Rey Mysterio & Konnan) asked to get out of their contracts did Kevin Sullivan throw Benoit a bone and give him a world title win, out of the blue, with no build. Benoit saw through it and vacated the belt and left anyway. Out of that group of guys, WCW was only able to talk Mysterio and Konnan into staying. Douglas stayed, but only because the WWF didn't want him ... and he was bitter at the other Radicals that they got to leave and he didn't. By the time guys like Palumbo, O'Haire, Kidman, Elix Skipper, Lance Storm, etc. started getting semi-decent pushes, WCW was already on their way into extinction. Guys like Hogan, Hall, Nash, Goldberg and Sting were on vacation most of the year, so some of the young guys got more TV exposure simply by default. By then, fans were conditioned not to expect the push to last, so even when a guy like Kidman won a big match, it didn't really help the ratings. People knew better.
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Post by Returnal on Apr 27, 2008 22:33:01 GMT -5
Yes everyone always says to push the young guys. Sure Guerrero and Raven were talented but can you see Raven main eventing the number 1 company in the United States? Compare a Kevin Nash pop to a Raven pop. And it's not like WCW didnt try push new guys. They tried it alot and the fans usually didnt respond so they went back to Hogan, Flair, Savage, Hall and NashThe only new guy WCW truly pushed to the main event level in the Nitro era was Goldberg. Everyone else got TV time, but once they got to a certain level, it was made clear to the viewers that this guy was a step or two below the true main eventers. Either they got squashed on TV, or their gimmick became comedy, or they were booked so that they only cared about the cruiserweight title... it was always made clear that rooting for a guy like Jericho, Konnan, Rey Mysterio, Guerrero or Benoit for anything other than midcard success would have been pointless. Raven, Guerrero, Benoit, Malenko etc etc got a push in the Upper Midcard but never got enough of a reaction to possibly be in the Main Event. Plus WCW wasnt based towards the wrestling fans it's Sports Entertainment. They had some good matches that interested the wrestling fans but they aimed towards the casual fan who liked Nash, Goldberg, Sting, Hogan and Savage over Raven, Benoit, Jericho, Malenko and The Luchadores. Plus the older guys were working for them they drew millions of dollars from the nWo angle which featured mostly old guys. Why fix what isnt broken?
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Post by Too Sweet on Apr 28, 2008 21:57:23 GMT -5
The only new guy WCW truly pushed to the main event level in the Nitro era was Goldberg. Everyone else got TV time, but once they got to a certain level, it was made clear to the viewers that this guy was a step or two below the true main eventers. Either they got squashed on TV, or their gimmick became comedy, or they were booked so that they only cared about the cruiserweight title... it was always made clear that rooting for a guy like Jericho, Konnan, Rey Mysterio, Guerrero or Benoit for anything other than midcard success would have been pointless. Raven, Guerrero, Benoit, Malenko etc etc got a push in the Upper Midcard but never got enough of a reaction to possibly be in the Main Event. Plus WCW wasnt based towards the wrestling fans it's Sports Entertainment. They had some good matches that interested the wrestling fans but they aimed towards the casual fan who liked Nash, Goldberg, Sting, Hogan and Savage over Raven, Benoit, Jericho, Malenko and The Luchadores. Plus the older guys were working for them they drew millions of dollars from the nWo angle which featured mostly old guys. Why fix what isnt broken?I could see how it works for the time being, but it came to the point where the nWo where destroying everyone infront of them which made the whole card look weak which basically made fans think guys like Malenko, Benoit, Eddie ect.. look like a bunch of guys who were just there to wrestle and get their ass beat. The nWo saga should have ended by the time Sting had won the title at Starcade in my opinion, WCW's roster was too packed that basically anyone who was in the nWo got more TV time over WCW's own. WCW in 2000 was what WCW should have been around 1998, pushing younger guys and showing off talents potential ( I mean, look at Booker T in 2000, he rose up from the Mid-Card and because a proper Main Event wrestler ), sure Hogan, Savage and others could draw because that was basically the only thing that was in peoples faces in WCW and thats why Goldberg gained the huge popularity because HE was the one demolishing people infront of him without being in the nWo and taking the World title from them it was finally a case ( apart from Sting ) where the good guy beat the bad guys for once.
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