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Post by The Assassin on May 4, 2008 18:46:41 GMT -5
I'm not actually gonna comment much on this myself, but I'm curious as to other people's thoughts.
I'm sure most people believe it was real and bret never knew, but is there anyone who thinks it was a work?
I think it is possible that it was a work and bret was in on it all along. like i said, i'm not gonna put together an arguement to back that up, it's just my gut feeling. there is no correct answer, and obviously we will (probably) never know for sure. So PLEASE let's not turn this thread into an arguement. Just want to hear people's thoughts...
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Post by [MJH] on May 4, 2008 18:52:31 GMT -5
I honestly doubt it was worked.
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Post by Iron Man on May 4, 2008 19:24:16 GMT -5
If it was a work, why wouldn't Bret ever show up again on WWE TV (minus HOF)?
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Post by The Assassin on May 4, 2008 19:28:45 GMT -5
If it was a work, why wouldn't Bret ever show up again on WWE TV (minus HOF)? maybe because he decided to retire? and to keep the story going?
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Post by ztj_wwf on May 4, 2008 19:31:02 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that was a work is a ing idiot, seriously come on.
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Post by Chicago on May 4, 2008 19:34:32 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that was a work is a ing idiot, seriously come on. Yep. There is absolutely no way that the Montreal Screwjob was a work. If you think otherwise, you're just thinking fantasy, when everything that went down was real life.
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Post by justamazing on May 4, 2008 21:17:59 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that was a work is a ing idiot, seriously come on. I have to agree.
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Post by k5 on May 4, 2008 21:34:17 GMT -5
business wise, it would make sense, so it is 'possible'. however, i am much too huge of a bret hart fan to consider the possibility.
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Post by rohchikaramark on May 4, 2008 21:37:52 GMT -5
It was real. Why else would Bret not like Vince and HBK in "Real Life".
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Post by ToastMaster General on May 4, 2008 22:13:32 GMT -5
I've always believed that it was the greatest work of all time.
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Post by dimshady on May 5, 2008 3:50:39 GMT -5
It was real. Why else would Bret not like Vince and HBK in "Real Life". Rumor is that HBK and Bret have hated each other years b4 this. Even in the rockers/foundation days. I dunno, if it was a work, its the biggist work ever, just seems funny that DVD doc on Bret was around at the time, How boring would that of been had the screwjob not happend.
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Post by Dwight on May 5, 2008 5:35:30 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that was a work is a ing idiot, seriously come on. Smartest thing I've ever read on this board.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on May 5, 2008 7:39:49 GMT -5
I don't believe it was a work at all. BUT, since the question was "is it possible" ... then yes, I suppose in pro wrestling, most everything COULD be a work (except for things involving fatalities or irrefutable evidence of realness, which is unusual).
It's "possible" that the Matt Hardy/Edge/Lita scandal was also a work -- and you could even come up with a few good examples of why -- but eventually, you have to let common sense prevail. When a situation is serious to someone, you can usually tell they're not acting anymore. Pro wrestlers generally aren't THAT good at acting.
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Post by DTP. on May 5, 2008 11:42:51 GMT -5
IT could be that WWF was returning the favour of what WCW did with Brian Pillman [by letting him jump ships] but I doubt it since Hart was a much bigger star than Pillman ever was unfortunately.
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Post by raz2005uk on May 5, 2008 11:47:21 GMT -5
well maybe this was all a work in VINCE'S eyes. We know he feels strongly that controversy is the best way to catch the attention of fans (hence the abrupt ending to last weeks RAW and adamle walking off for example). He was very aware of the hatred between HBK n Bret. It was certain Bret would leave so why not do something that will make even the WCW fans turn over and switch to WWF - and make the most of Bret's departure?
Think bout it guys, he may have put his company on the line here but - it came off very well - and LOOK we're still talking about the montreal screwjob 11 years on lol
So was it a worked shoot....NO! But for Vince Mcmahon - this was 1 very well laid out and meticulous plan...that gave the WWF maximum exposure possible from this 1 single occurence.
If it was all totally real and genuine..you think Vince would have let documentary workers film all the backstage happenings after what went down? He wanted to gain all the publicity he could.
Lets face it people - shawn n bret were vince's pawns on the chessboard.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2008 11:48:33 GMT -5
I'm sure along with others that it was real.
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Post by The UndyTaker on May 5, 2008 11:52:41 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that was a work is a ing idiot, seriously come on. Good argument you put up.
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Post by markallenkellner on May 5, 2008 19:14:48 GMT -5
To this day, I do believe it was a work. Bret wanted out of his contract to go to WCW. The screwjob was a way to make Bret Hart the talk of the wrestling world, to drop his belt without really losing to HBK, and to guarantee that he'd be the biggest babyface at that time when he was to go to WCW. Of course, Bischoff screwed it all up. It also generated tons of heat for McMahon and created the evil Mr McMahon character. You watch, years from now it'll be revealed that this was all a work, just like Kaufman vs Lawler was.
Bret Hart's still from the old school, he'll never reveal this in his lifetime. You listen to his interviews nowadays and they're all kayfabe. Lawler would've never revealed the truth between him and Kaufman if it wasn't for "Man On The Moon".
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on May 5, 2008 22:59:17 GMT -5
Is it POSSIBLE? Yes.
Is it LIKELY? Hell no.
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Post by carly1988 on May 5, 2008 23:37:36 GMT -5
I dont think it was a work at all. Even Pat Patterson who is very close to Vince was pissed off about it. He was in charge of that match and nobody filled him in on what was gonna happen. I heard Chyna didnt even know herself. It was only Vince, Earl, HBK and HHH that knew what was going on. Ive heard Gerry Brisco was told as vince was walking out of the curtain.
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