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Post by raz2005uk on May 6, 2008 14:48:53 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I was just reading the "heyman hustle", in there he acknowledges the conspiracy theory that maybe Vince Russo & Ed Ferrera were sent intentionally by Vince Mcmahon to totally bury WCW.
Now at 1st I thought this was laughable but then again who knows...Vince has done other things to raise eyebrows. Example: He was the secret man who used to fund ECW behind the scenes to lure WCW fans away.
I mean Russo & Fererra were very creative in the WWF- and alot of the magic that was created in the attitude era could be attirbuted to them.
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MOST of the ridiculous storylines they came up with in WCW - almost seem as if they were done on purpose - as they were sooo bad and tasteless.
Maybe Vince sent them there as "inside men" to destory WCW from within...
What you guys think?
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Post by 2cold on May 6, 2008 14:52:04 GMT -5
I don't think so.
If it were a plot, I would of thought they would have came back following their release from WCW.
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Post by raz2005uk on May 6, 2008 15:01:51 GMT -5
I don't think so. If it were a plot, I would of thought they would have came back following their release from WCW. Well I dont think Vince would have wanted to make it blatent - so why would he accept them back - to prove to people that it is true that he sent them there on purpose? just a thought..  |
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Post by ztj_wwf on May 6, 2008 15:24:39 GMT -5
I alwasy thought Vince sent them to destory WCW but when they didn't come back (except Russo for a week or 2 in 2002) I doubted it.
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Post by Raine on May 6, 2008 16:12:37 GMT -5
But are they both STILL secretly on the payroll? A small thanks for helping Vince become the king of wrestling? If he could bankroll ECW for years, this possibility isn't out of the question.
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Post by mattoriginal on May 6, 2008 16:51:07 GMT -5
But are they both STILL secretly on the payroll? A small thanks for helping Vince become the king of wrestling? If he could bankroll ECW for years, this possibility isn't out of the question. Vince is already the king. |
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Post by scoobypat on May 6, 2008 16:57:26 GMT -5
WCW had so many more problems then just crappy storylines. Storylines played little part in it's demise, it was everything else really that destroyed WCW. And the storylines then weren't outlandish to the point that you were like "This is to stupid too watch" it's very comprable to the stuff of today.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2008 17:48:36 GMT -5
You do realize, ratings went up when they went to WCW... And they went down when they got fired... So....
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Post by Eskimo Joe on May 6, 2008 23:42:01 GMT -5
I've never ruled out the possibility. Especially since Russo was hired back for about two weeks in 2002, as previously stated. Maybe they were seen meeting and needed a cover up. Who knows? Russo's booking in TNA sure makes it seem like someone's paying him to do bad on purpose.
But I also don't like conspiracy theories, so I'm not gonna worry about it very much.
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Post by garseys on May 7, 2008 3:55:18 GMT -5
WCW was starting to dive when bischoff was sent home and were becoming less competitive(e.g. tnt and aol time warner) so really i dont think that they were sent to kill it, their parent company was doing a good job of that already.
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Post by Too Sweet on May 8, 2008 19:57:54 GMT -5
I had the same thoughts aswell that Vinnie sent down Russon and Ferrera to f*ck up WCW, I don't see why Vince would want to release the writers who were there during the start of the Attitude Era.
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Post by No Brokeback on May 9, 2008 4:49:54 GMT -5
As soon as I started seeing Kidman starting to fued with the likes of Hulk Hogan, I stopped watching completely.
KIDMAN..SERIOUSLY?
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Post by Returnal on May 9, 2008 7:53:06 GMT -5
As soon as I started seeing Kidman starting to fued with the likes of Hulk Hogan, I stopped watching completely. KIDMAN..SERIOUSLY? They tried to push new guys. Kidman didnt do too bad against Hogan he even beat Hogan a few times. Kidmans a very talented worker too. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on May 9, 2008 15:50:29 GMT -5
Kidman was very over at the time...
But there was no plot...
Ferrera and Russo's stoyline's were stupid and tasteless because the men themselves are... Look at the tasteless things they created in WWE during the attitude era. The only difference then was that Vinnie Mac was there to filter out the really bad ideas. In WCW, they were in charge and every stupid idea got out.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2008 23:40:58 GMT -5
I had the same thoughts aswell that Vinnie sent down Russon and Ferrera to f*ck up WCW, I don't see why Vince would want to release the writers who were there during the start of the Attitude Era. Vince and Ed had no contracts, so they left freely |
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Post by mrchase on May 10, 2008 1:17:05 GMT -5
Hey guys, I was just reading the "heyman hustle", in there he acknowledges the conspiracy theory that maybe Vince Russo & Ed Ferrera were sent intentionally by Vince Mcmahon to totally bury WCW. Now at 1st I thought this was laughable but then again who knows...Vince has done other things to raise eyebrows. Example: He was the secret man who used to fund ECW behind the scenes to lure WCW fans away. I mean Russo & Fererra were very creative in the WWF- and alot of the magic that was created in the attitude era could be attirbuted to them. BUT MOST of the ridiculous storylines they came up with in WCW - almost seem as if they were done on purpose - as they were sooo bad and tasteless. Maybe Vince sent them there as "inside men" to destory WCW from within... What you guys think? no,vince did not send them to destroy WCW. vince russo & ed ferrera suck without vince mcmahon around . vince mcmahon was the filter for vince russo & ed ferrera in WWF . you have seen what happens when vince russo & ed ferrera don't have vince mcmahon around for a filter. |
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Post by ultimateking on May 10, 2008 5:00:23 GMT -5
I've never ruled out the possibility. Especially since Russo was hired back for about two weeks in 2002, as previously stated. Maybe they were seen meeting and needed a cover up. Who knows? Russo's booking in TNA sure makes it seem like someone's paying him to do bad on purpose.But I also don't like conspiracy theories, so I'm not gonna worry about it very much. You said it all right there . . . . |
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on May 11, 2008 21:31:50 GMT -5
Its a possibility..Idk if its true or not..
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Post by inrogers29 on May 13, 2008 1:37:44 GMT -5
I think the major issue with Russo's booking style is that there isnt much of a story arch and the fact is that the situations he puts wrestlers and such in are very dark and dreary. Like the storylines arent dramatic, there just downers and such. Nothing feels like a spectacle. Hard to explain I suppose.
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Post by gunnerbri on May 14, 2008 15:38:42 GMT -5
I dunno, I was reading Chyna's book and something interesting came up regarding the whole Jarrett dropping the title to Chyna thing. Apparently Russo delayed the title exchange for another week or so knowing that Jarrett's contract expired the morning he had delayed it to (although McMahon was unaware of this). Shortly after putting off the title exchange Russo left for WCW and Jarrett blackmailed Vince into paying him quite a large amount to wrestle Chyna without a contract. I believe it was something over a quarter of a million. Then as we all know Russo brought Jarrett to WCW after he dropped the title. Basically what I'm trying to say is why would Russo effectively cost Vince (and why would Vince agree to it) so much money if he was 'on the payroll'?  |
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