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Post by slappy on May 16, 2008 19:45:29 GMT -5
Homosexuality has been going on for thousands of years.
Should we take children away who only have 1 parent?
You said old and infertile couples can adopt, so they can marry. If marriage is about creating life, then why should they be allowed to marry? What about couples that decide not to have kids? Should they be allowed to marry?
By not letting gays marry, the government is sanctioning love.
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Post by kennethtogash on May 16, 2008 19:48:59 GMT -5
Once we abandon marriage to the whims and desires of adults seeking validation of their sexual lifestyles, we denigrate children and their needs – legally validating relationships that would deliberately leave them motherless or fatherless. And that hurts society. We have plenty of data to show what happens to children when they grow up without a father or a mother. Prisons are filled with adults who were fatherless as children. The financial burden of welfare and prison programs on society as a result of children growing up without their mother or their father is horrific. And that is not even taking into consideration the immense personal suffering that inevitably is too often hidden behind these statistics.
The founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves. We are truly living in a world turned upside-down.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on May 16, 2008 19:49:09 GMT -5
Everytime this topic comes up I state the same thing.
I don't have a problem with gay people...I don't however agree with having children with a spouse and then suddenly realizing you are gay.
That's extremely irresponsible.
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Post by slappy on May 16, 2008 19:50:41 GMT -5
Once we abandon marriage to the whims and desires of adults seeking validation of their sexual lifestyles, we denigrate children and their needs – legally validating relationships that would deliberately leave them motherless or fatherless. And that hurts society. We have plenty of data to show what happens to children when they grow up without a father or a mother. Prisons are filled with adults who were fatherless as children. The financial burden of welfare and prison programs on society as a result of children growing up without their mother or their father is horrific. And that is not even taking into consideration the immense personal suffering that inevitably is too often hidden behind these statistics. The founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves. We are truly living in a world turned upside-down. The founding fathers allowed slavery and didn't let women vote. Wouldn't that make them rollover? Studies have been done to show that a child raised in a gay couples household is no worse off than a child raised in a straight couples house. |
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on May 16, 2008 19:52:42 GMT -5
Once we abandon marriage to the whims and desires of adults seeking validation of their sexual lifestyles, we denigrate children and their needs – legally validating relationships that would deliberately leave them motherless or fatherless. And that hurts society. We have plenty of data to show what happens to children when they grow up without a father or a mother. Prisons are filled with adults who were fatherless as children. The financial burden of welfare and prison programs on society as a result of children growing up without their mother or their father is horrific. And that is not even taking into consideration the immense personal suffering that inevitably is too often hidden behind these statistics. The founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves. We are truly living in a world turned upside-down. While I'm not going to sit here and spout off on who is wrong and who is right, your argument is not valid. You are bringing into question the validity of having two moms or two dads versus the traditional family value system. The problem with this is that there is no formal data to back up whether having same sex parents causes what you are stating to be fact. Personally, I don't agree with gay marriage. But, if you are going to take this stance you should formulate a more valid argument than this. |
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Post by kennethtogash on May 16, 2008 19:54:14 GMT -5
Everytime this topic comes up I state the same thing. I don't have a problem with gay people...I don't however agree with having children with a spouse and then suddenly realizing you are gay. That's extremely irresponsible. I don't have a problem with gay people either. I respect every human life. The problem is the path America is on with so many broken families. Legalizing gay marriage will just add to the problem. We already have too many single moms and kids that don't come from a proper family structure are screwed up real bad. You can see the difference just talk to a kid from a proper home and then talk to a kid from a broken home. This is a fact proven over and over. |
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on May 16, 2008 19:55:22 GMT -5
Everytime this topic comes up I state the same thing. I don't have a problem with gay people...I don't however agree with having children with a spouse and then suddenly realizing you are gay. That's extremely irresponsible. I don't have a problem with gay people either. I respect every human life. The problem is the path America is on with so many broken families. Legalizing gay marriage will just add to the problem. We already have too many single moms and kids that don't come from a proper family structure are screwed up real bad. You can see the difference just talk to a kid from a proper home and then talk to a kid from a broken home. This is a fact proven over and over. See above. |
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Post by slappy on May 16, 2008 19:55:27 GMT -5
You said old and infertile couples can adopt, so they can marry. If marriage is about creating life, then why should they be allowed to marry? What about couples that decide not to have kids? Should they be allowed to marry?
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Post by kennethtogash on May 16, 2008 19:57:05 GMT -5
You said old and infertile couples can adopt, so they can marry. If marriage is about creating life, then why should they be allowed to marry? What about couples that decide not to have kids? Should they be allowed to marry? as long as it is a man and woman Studies show that sexual identity confusion is common among children raised by gay parents and that children of lesbians are less likely to fit traditional gender roles. |
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Post by slappy on May 16, 2008 19:58:15 GMT -5
You said marriage is about procreation, so you are a hypocrite if you are just saying marriage is allowed without it.
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Post by [MJH] on May 16, 2008 19:58:48 GMT -5
We have plenty of data to show what happens to children when they grow up without a father or a mother. Prisons are filled with adults who were fatherless as children. Prisons are also full of people who had a mother and a father. I don't have a father and in no way has it affected who I am I'd still be the same person no matter what. Having gay parents wont  a kid up having eccentric over the top camp parents might though. |
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Post by chokeslamcena on May 16, 2008 19:59:47 GMT -5
Once we abandon marriage to the whims and desires of adults seeking validation of their sexual lifestyles, we denigrate children and their needs – legally validating relationships that would deliberately leave them motherless or fatherless. And that hurts society. We have plenty of data to show what happens to children when they grow up without a father or a mother. Prisons are filled with adults who were fatherless as children. The financial burden of welfare and prison programs on society as a result of children growing up without their mother or their father is horrific. And that is not even taking into consideration the immense personal suffering that inevitably is too often hidden behind these statistics. The founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves. We are truly living in a world turned upside-down. .... We have plenty of data to show what happens to children when they grow up without a father or a mother. Prisons are filled with adults who were fatherless as children. Prisons are also full of people who had a mother and a father. I don't have a father and in no way has it affected who I am I'd still be the same person no matter what. Having gay parents wont a kid up having eccentric over the top camp parents might though. Just on the other side of this, I practically grew up without a mother, but im not in prison. |
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Post by The Funniest Guy in Pants on May 16, 2008 20:04:30 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with gay people either. I respect every human life. The problem is the path America is on with so many broken families. Legalizing gay marriage will just add to the problem. We already have too many single moms and kids that don't come from a proper family structure are screwed up real bad. You can see the difference just talk to a kid from a proper home and then talk to a kid from a broken home. This is a fact proven over and over. You just don't get it. It's not about who raises these kids, it's about raising them right. I'd imagine the ratio of good and bad straight parents to good and bad homosexual parents would be about equal. |
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Post by kennethtogash on May 16, 2008 20:05:45 GMT -5
You said marriage is about procreation, so you are a hypocrite if you are just saying marriage is allowed without it. Marriage is between a man and a woman as nature intended. Some decide not to have kids for financial reasons for example. |
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Post by slappy on May 16, 2008 20:06:37 GMT -5
But you said marriage is for having kids. If they don't have kids, they shouldn't be married, or that's what I'm getting from you. But now you are backing off of that.
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Post by Suckasays on May 16, 2008 20:07:11 GMT -5
I'd like to take this opportunity to publicly propose to Bubba
Bubba...
Will you be my husband?
Check one
[ ] YES [ ] NO
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Post by JakksFigFan on May 16, 2008 20:09:00 GMT -5
But you said marriage is for having kids. If they don't have kids, they shouldn't be married, or that's what I'm getting from you. But now you are backing off of that. Marriage is the bonding of a man and a woman joining together to become one flesh in God.( not literally in God, or One flash, its a metaphor peeps.) |
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Post by [MJH] on May 16, 2008 20:10:06 GMT -5
You said marriage is about procreation, so you are a hypocrite if you are just saying marriage is allowed without it. Marriage is between a man and a woman as nature intended. Some decide not to have kids for financial reasons for example. marriage is a bullcrapcustom that was made up to scare unfaithful people into not cheating, I see no need to get married if I trusted someone enough to marry them I'd trust them enough not to cheat therefore there isn't much need for me to get married. But for the people that want to get married why should it get restricted to one group of people if Gay people want to get married why can't they? |
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Post by kennethtogash on May 16, 2008 20:11:42 GMT -5
The traditional family-one father, one mother, and their natural or adopted children-is the basic building block of society. Not just our society, but society as a whole. The history of civilization proves that when a particular society strays from this norm, that society deteriorates.
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Post by chokeslamcena on May 16, 2008 20:14:11 GMT -5
The traditional family-one father, one mother, and their natural or adopted children-is the basic building block of society. Not just our society, but society as a whole. The history of civilization proves that when a particular society strays from this norm, that society deteriorates. |
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