chokeslamcena
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Post by chokeslamcena on May 18, 2008 8:40:06 GMT -5
No, Mark, you're the one who takes shots at people. And I'm pretty sure Kaneisdaman was referring to your spite for him because of arguments you've had in the past. I would never, ever expect everyone on the board to like Kane. That would be unrealistic. But I don't like it when people say stuff about him, and have nothing to go on. OK, Kane has put on some weight... who cares? What would even be the point in bringing that up? Did you even read your own original post in this thread? let me quote you: I dont see why they dont let him grow his hair back. His character has been ruined, infact he doesnt even have a character anymore hes just slow, fat and uncaring. Look at that... You'd swear you just said to me: Hypocrite? You stated that his character has been ruined, then went on to ssay he doesn't actually even have a character any more, then you gave us the facts that he's slow, fat and uncaring. Now... Like i said, being slow is nothing new. as someone who's watched Kane since his debut, I don't ever remember him doing 619's or moonsaults. The only time his feet ever left the ground was when he did that novelty act stuff when he teamed with RVD and he'd jump over the top rope once or twice. So... he's been slow for over a decade.. yet its only a problem when you want to argue and bash him? Now, he's also fat. As i've said many times: unless its affecting his ring work, i don't care if he grows another foot taller and puts on an extra hundred pound. I don't watch Kane because Im attracted to him. I watch him because i think he's a good wrestler. Its not affecting his ring work, so its not a problem to me. Now.. this is funny one.... He's.... UNCARING Yeah.. totally. I mean, the amount of injuries he's caused. shows he's missed. Refusing to put other people over. Always wants the main event spot. Doefinitely wont work on the less popular brands. No, wait.. thats not him. He's the guy that busted his ass in a feud with MVP to help get him over (albeit, Benoit and Hardy also contributed, but you can't say Kane wasn't a part of getting him there) he's holding the least meaningful belt in WWE, He's continually working to get the younger people over, he doesn't care if he's first or last on the card... i mean... no offence Mark, but you haven't got a clue. I mean really. Saying he's "uncaring" is the most ludicrous thing you could ever say. And what does my ECW thread have to do with anything? I guess it was too long for you to read? well incase you stopped reading after seeing it was more than three lines long, I said Kane impressed ME the most. And Miz and Punk had a good match as far as I AM concerned. I said I can see Mike Knox going far. I pretty much stated that everything was my opinion over and over again. And if you're going to post here again, back up your points or at the very, very least, make sense.
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Post by ericbischoff on May 18, 2008 8:55:31 GMT -5
That wasn't Kane who decided, that was WWE. WWE want Kane to look like as that. So Kane do it, because of money?
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chokeslamcena
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Post by chokeslamcena on May 18, 2008 8:58:58 GMT -5
That wasn't Kane who decided, that was WWE. WWE want Kane to look like as that. So Kane do it, because of money? Kane wanted to shave his head, so they came up with the unmasking idea. After spending so many years working for WWE, i'm pretty sure Kane's made enough money that he could comfortably retire in 2003. Besides, they needed to unmask him. He was getting pretty stale with the masked character.
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Post by ericbischoff on May 18, 2008 9:06:25 GMT -5
That wasn't Kane who decided, that was WWE. WWE want Kane to look like as that. So Kane do it, because of money? Kane wanted to shave his head, so they came up with the unmasking idea. After spending so many years working for WWE, i'm pretty sure Kane's made enough money that he could comfortably retire in 2003. Besides, they needed to unmask him. He was getting pretty stale with the masked character. Nope Nope, you are wrong, to be honest. Glen Jaconbs (Kane) required to unmasked because of breath problem, so here to go. And WWE decided what he going to look like when he was unmasked. Same as every single wrestlers, included Gene Snitsky, etc
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Post by madi90 on May 18, 2008 9:06:35 GMT -5
This super mark crap is destroying this forum.
People like Certified Money Punk, KKV and Kaneisdaman are ruining it with they're blind love for the wrestlers, I mean seriously it's like they can't accept that people don't like them or have an anti-opinion against them.
Kane is fat, sloppy and he couldn't give a **** anymore. its so obvious it hurts. And I don't care how much you half shave your head or go around wearing a mask nothing will change the fact he is past it now.
And it's kind of rediculous to say he is putting over younger guys when he squashes Chavo in under 10 seconds at mania...
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2008 9:07:55 GMT -5
This super mark crap is destroying this forum. People like Certified Money Punk, KKV and Kaneisdaman are ruining it with they're blind love for the wrestlers, I mean seriously it's like they can't accept that people don't like them or have an anti-opinion against them. Kane is fat, sloppy and he couldn't give a **** anymore. its so obvious it hurts. And I don't care how much you half shave your head or go around wearing a mask nothing will change the fact he is past it now. And it's kind of rediculous to say he is putting over younger guys when he squashes Chavo in under 10 seconds at mania... Smartest thing said so far.
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Post by madi90 on May 18, 2008 9:15:30 GMT -5
Kane wanted to shave his head, so they came up with the unmasking idea. After spending so many years working for WWE, i'm pretty sure Kane's made enough money that he could comfortably retire in 2003. Besides, they needed to unmask him. He was getting pretty stale with the masked character. Nope Nope, you are wrong, to be honest. Glen Jaconbs (Kane) required to unmasked because of breath problem, so here to go. And WWE decided what he going to look like when he was unmasked. Same as every single wrestlers, included Gene Snitsky, etc Why can't you accept that Snitsky chose to make his teeth like that? WWE wanted him to have the monster gimmick and he chose to have his teeth worked on so it would help him get over. Just accept you are wrong.
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Post by Ryan815 on May 18, 2008 9:18:26 GMT -5
I Think WWE should put the mask back on Kane maybe by doing an angle where kane is set on fire forcing him to wear the mask again and giving him back his monster status coz to be honest at the moment hes no more of a monster than Colin Delaney is
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Post by Angel Beast on May 18, 2008 9:24:07 GMT -5
You guys obviously didn't read his autobiography...He wasn't set on fire...He was burnt in a house that was set on fire Funny thing because I was reading his book this morning. It's still an amazing read. they need to make a part two of that book
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Post by Mark on May 18, 2008 9:30:34 GMT -5
All this love fest is sickening. Hypocrite no, I didnt try to pass off my statement as a fact and yes I said his character has been ruined and then I went on to say "INFACT, he doesn't even have a character anymore". please be logical with your use of words and the norm. Thank you. and I was not referring to your ecw thread, in which I have not even seen as I tend to stay away from any threads you make, imo. I am deeply flattered that you are dedicating long, drawn out posts to me and you're really helping me come along with my ever growing self esteem. You can debate Kane till you're blue in the face. I dont care. Deal with what I say about Kane, regardless if you agree. He was never slow for a decade. Never. If you can't differeniate the difference between being slow and wrestling big then you need to watch more wrestling. When we say slow, we are not referring to cruiserweight moves so stop with that. Please stop thinking that I worry about you and Kaneisdaman because I don't so stop making it seem that way. I don't seem to have taken any personal shots, nor have I mentioned kaneisdaman anywhere prior to him replying to me Now, if that is all from the House Kane Built and Then Burned Down, I am going to see about My lovely Undertaker DVD.
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chokeslamcena
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Post by chokeslamcena on May 18, 2008 9:55:08 GMT -5
This super mark crap is destroying this forum. People like Certified Money Punk, KKV and Kaneisdaman are ruining it with they're blind love for the wrestlers, I mean seriously it's like they can't accept that people don't like them or have an anti-opinion against them. Kane is fat, sloppy and he couldn't give a **** anymore. its so obvious it hurts. And I don't care how much you half shave your head or go around wearing a mask nothing will change the fact he is past it now. And it's kind of rediculous to say he is putting over younger guys when he squashes Chavo in under 10 seconds at mania... In fairness, chavo is not a younger guy, and that match was clearly just WWE punishing Chavo. And if you bothered to read my posts, you'd see that i point out Kane's flaws. I don't blindly defend him, but i will defend him. All this love fest is sickening. Hypocrite no, I didnt try to pass off my statement as a fact and yes I said his character has been ruined and then I went on to say "INFACT, he doesn't even have a character anymore". please be logical with your use of words and the norm. Thank you. and I was not referring to your ecw thread, in which I have not even seen as I tend to stay away from any threads you make, imo. I am deeply flattered that you are dedicating long, drawn out posts to me and you're really helping me come along with my ever growing self esteem. You can debate Kane till you're blue in the face. I dont care. Deal with what I say about Kane, regardless if you agree. He was never slow for a decade. Never. If you can't differeniate the difference between being slow and wrestling big then you need to watch more wrestling. When we say slow, we are not referring to cruiserweight moves so stop with that. Please stop thinking that I worry about you and Kaneisdaman because I don't so stop making it seem that way. I don't seem to have taken any personal shots, nor have I mentioned kaneisdaman anywhere prior to him replying to me Now, if that is all from the House Kane Built and Then Burned Down, I am going to see about My lovely Undertaker DVD. Well what were you saying about an ECW thread and yeah, im not arguing with you any more either. But you know, it doesnt hurt to put effort into an argument or try to have points to back up what you say.
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chokeslamcena
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Post by chokeslamcena on May 18, 2008 9:58:32 GMT -5
also, Hexus, he was having breathing and ventilation difficutly with his original mask. He didn't have any problems with the mask when they cut the mouth out of it (the first masks were made by an independent leathersmith (and they cost $1,500, sadly) but WWE made his 02 mask, and built it to avoid any problems with ventilation or breathing etc.
If you actually asked Kane (and im surprised you didn't seen as you met him recently) he'd tell you he wanted to shave his head, so they came up with the unmasking angle.
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Post by layzie on May 18, 2008 10:00:08 GMT -5
yeah hes always looked really dumb
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Post by hbk4champ on May 18, 2008 10:19:23 GMT -5
i agree. his hair does look stupid.
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Post by madi90 on May 18, 2008 10:23:07 GMT -5
This super mark crap is destroying this forum. People like Certified Money Punk, KKV and Kaneisdaman are ruining it with they're blind love for the wrestlers, I mean seriously it's like they can't accept that people don't like them or have an anti-opinion against them. Kane is fat, sloppy and he couldn't give a **** anymore. its so obvious it hurts. And I don't care how much you half shave your head or go around wearing a mask nothing will change the fact he is past it now. And it's kind of rediculous to say he is putting over younger guys when he squashes Chavo in under 10 seconds at mania... In fairness, chavo is not a younger guy, and that match was clearly just WWE punishing Chavo. And if you bothered to read my posts, you'd see that i point out Kane's flaws. I don't blindly defend him, but i will defend him. WHY? Why do you see the need to defend him EVERY SINGLE TIME someone makes a comment thats against him. You obviously are obsessed with him, and im not going to judge you for it. But if you can't accept or live with the fact that people have a differing opinion about the man your in love with then you have no right coming to an open forum where people shouldn't be judged on there opinion, so step off your soap box and get a hint. Kane is not gods gift to wrestling, he is nothing spectacular. He is horrible in the ring, his apearence is apauling and he is a waste of space on what was once an amazing roster (ECW) and he is bringing the show down.
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chokeslamcena
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Post by chokeslamcena on May 18, 2008 11:24:56 GMT -5
In fairness, chavo is not a younger guy, and that match was clearly just WWE punishing Chavo. And if you bothered to read my posts, you'd see that i point out Kane's flaws. I don't blindly defend him, but i will defend him. WHY? Why do you see the need to defend him EVERY SINGLE TIME someone makes a comment thats against him. You obviously are obsessed with him, and im not going to judge you for it. But if you can't accept or live with the fact that people have a differing opinion about the man your in love with then you have no right coming to an open forum where people shouldn't be judged on there opinion, so step off your soap box and get a hint. Kane is not gods gift to wrestling, he is nothing spectacular. He is horrible in the ring, his apearence is apauling and he is a waste of space on what was once an amazing roster (ECW) and he is bringing the show down. I dont try and change peoples opinion. Someone made a thread about Kane, i replied to the thread. In doing such a thing, me and Mark had a small argument about him and we're both over it now. Like i said, if you bothered to read my posts you'd see that i point out Kane's flaws and when i do say good things about him i back it up. Something you can't seem to do. So to be totally honest, I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you.
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Post by gordon on May 18, 2008 11:25:44 GMT -5
I say take him out for a year, let his hair grow and bang the mask back on him.
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Post by justamazing on May 18, 2008 11:47:13 GMT -5
I say take him out for a year, let his hair grow and bang the mask back on him. What will that do? We all seen what he looks like, hes horrible in the ring, he hasn't got the "it" factor and his look is terrible. He is a 40 year old man who is awfully slow. He needs to retire now. And on top of that, I agree with the guy who said that Certified money punk, KKV and Kaneistheman is ruining the forum with their "markness" for their favourite wrestler. Its annoying, just get over the fact that we all don't love your favourite.
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Post by modano09 on May 18, 2008 12:51:35 GMT -5
Fat? Fat? Everyone here post pics of yourself now, Kane is by no means fat, he's not exactly cut like the guys he's in the ring with but I would give an arm and a leg to be in that shape when I'm 41. I can't stand when people say guys like JBL, HHH, and Kane are fat, they're in the ring with guys like Orton and Cena, no doubt they don't look as good but they're in phenomenal shape for guys their age. Same goes with people making fun of Flair, the guy is like 56, if any of you look that good at 56 consider yourselves lucky as hell. Heck even Trevor Murdoch isn't really that fat, he's just a big guy, if you saw him as a a regular person you wouldn't think of him as fat. JBL is fat. He has the biggest boobs on Raw, and he has to pull his tights up past his belly button to keep his gut from hanging out. You can tell that he has a body that's not meant to be ripped but he's just fat now and lost muscle on top of that. With Flair retired, he's officially the most disgusting wrestler to watch now. Kane's the poster boy for steroid cycles, going from ripped to bloated every couple of months until now, he seems to have settled with bloted. He's in good shape for a guy his age, but there's a differance between being in good shape and being in the type of shape you should be in to go on television half naked every week.
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Sami Hazard
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Post by Sami Hazard on May 18, 2008 13:25:35 GMT -5
Does anyone have unmasked pics of Kane when he had long hair?
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