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Post by Iron Man on Dec 3, 2007 20:52:03 GMT -5
Is there Shoot from TP on Youtube yet?
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Post by nascar on Dec 3, 2007 21:00:14 GMT -5
If Joes gonna be like that then fire his ass !
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Dec 4, 2007 6:43:43 GMT -5
If Joe was such a man he would have quit earlier. He didn't so he needs to just shut up now and take it.
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Post by CBT on Dec 4, 2007 11:32:21 GMT -5
If that is a major fight, the fights I've seen at school in the past must have been World War caliber. <3
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Post by Swarm on Dec 4, 2007 11:54:02 GMT -5
You know, I gotta jump in here for once and say a few things.
1: It's not a major fight because it went to fist to cuffs, it's a major fight because Joe broke kayfabe on live television more or less and blamed someone who as much as you all would like to believe it, is not responsible for what happened. Even moreso, and once again whether or not you want to believe it, he blamed someone who is a legend in this business and and his elder and he should've shown him the proper respect. I'm sure Joe knows this, and I'm sure that's why he apologized the next day.
2. This is not Kevin Nash's fault. Now I doubt the majority of you have ever had jobs considering the way most of you are behaving, but take this analogy. You work at McDonalds and you've been there on again-off again for several years. Some people there don't really like your attitude because you're not full-time, but you do your job and the managers rely on you for certain tasks a lot of people can't get done. So you end up asking if your friend can get hired. He's worked there before, been unreliable, but you swear up and down he's changed because he's your friend and you're loyal. One night you're both scheduled to close and he calls out because of food poisoning. Now is it your fault he no-showed? Don't you think it's the company's fault because they agreed to hire someone who has a bad history, regardless of who he is or not? Also, you people talk about how much you love wrestling and respect the business then call Nash old and lazy and taking spots from more deserving talent. Well, Nash has been in this business almost as long as most of you have been alive. Whether or not he's the greatest "worker" (like half of you even know what that word means anyway) ever is null. Nash is a legend and he is deserving of his spot and if TNA wants to use someone with that kind of credibility with mainstream fans than it's their fault, not his. Do I think Nash draws in TNA? Probably not, but in the least he deserves the respect of the people who claim to be smart to this business for what he's done to his body over the years.
3: Joe apologizing is not a cop-out or a sign he wants to be there forever or whatever. It's called professionalism. Now granted TNA is a backwards, glorified regional indie company with a trillion dollars behind it and someone stupid enough investing in the show to believe it'll work, but in any other promotion for what Senshi did, he'd never work there again. That's called burning a bridge, something I'm certain Joe didn't want to do. TNA pays Joe a good amount of money and has pushed him to a decent level. Now I feel he should be pushed more, but that's beside the point. The point is, Joe disrespected the company and someone who's higher on the food chain in the business than him, he was wrong, and rather than take a cowardly way out and walk out in the middle of storylines and burning a bridge, Joe showed respect to the contract he signed and apologized for the words he said.
wurd
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Post by jjkotm on Dec 4, 2007 14:18:00 GMT -5
Joe deserves to be fired. What he did on a national broadcast is embarassing and makes the company look like garbage. He needs to realize that he isn't performing for 400 people where only smarks will buy the DVD's.
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Post by mrchase on Dec 4, 2007 18:09:42 GMT -5
Joe deserves to be fired. What he did on a national broadcast is embarassing and makes the company look like garbage. He needs to realize that he isn't performing for 400 people where only smarks will buy the DVD's. joe does not deserved to be fired . he spoke the truth .also the company is garbage anymore & this is coming from a tna oriignal like me who has watches since the first wed PPV & never missed one. also all of tna's fans are smart marks .that is why they only get 1.1 rating .
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Post by Adam on Dec 4, 2007 21:32:30 GMT -5
Joe deserves to be fired. What he did on a national broadcast is embarassing and makes the company look like garbage. He needs to realize that he isn't performing for 400 people where only smarks will buy the DVD's. For what? Having the balls to say what's wrong with TNA and that TNA and its marks are too stubborn to admit it?
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Post by kc on Dec 4, 2007 21:39:02 GMT -5
Is there Shoot from TP on Youtube yet?
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Post by NotoriusVIG on Dec 4, 2007 22:02:18 GMT -5
It all sounds like a BS worked shoot. What kind of idiot is going to shoot all over his company when he has no other options and is making good money?
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Post by jjkotm on Dec 5, 2007 0:09:00 GMT -5
Joe deserves to be fired. What he did on a national broadcast is embarassing and makes the company look like garbage. He needs to realize that he isn't performing for 400 people where only smarks will buy the DVD's. For what? Having the balls to say what's wrong with TNA and that TNA and its marks are too stubborn to admit it? What Joe said was pretty much 100% true, but the time and place to do that was backstage, not in front of a PPV audience. Instances like this are why TNA only caters to the smarks. Do you really think casual fans would want to listen to Samoa Joe complaining about how has-beens are getting the spots of hard working mid-carders?
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