Post by deskjet on May 27, 2008 13:27:23 GMT -5
I usually dont openly bust on TNA and really this isnt a bust but more a look at what some other people think about TNA. It's from a poll on PWTORCh...so credit them. Some of it makes sense, asome of it is really funny:
In todays poll you asked to specify why I picked other. To be honest I just never remember to set the DVR nor do I remember that there is a replay 99 percent of the time. It's not so much that my time is limited I just never got around to setting up the DVR for Impact or smackdown. Because at this point in both shows life cycles the storylines are predictable. The roster is mainly older wrestlers holding onto a spot like in WCW. The few younger wrestlers that I would want to watch are either severly underpushed or, in Smackdown's case, showing up on Raw before the end of the year.
My other main reason is: Well, if I have to watch another gimmick match that involves some sort of cage, ladder, shark tank, or purple mushrooms on a pole from TNA, I'm going to stop watching wrestling all together. They talk about how they are professional wrestling, not sports entertainment, but creating these gimmick matches that are something out of a online e-fed wont make people take you seriously. I don't. I've never wanted to watch any of the gimmick matches outside of the Six Sides of Steel match between Triple X and America's Most Wanted. And that was almost four years ago.
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TNA turns its own stars into parodies of their former selves. Samoa Joe from a killer badass into a whiny crybaby. Kurt Angle from world-class athletic talent into a dysfunctional husband. The New Age Outlaws into the New Age Outlaws v2007. End of the day, why should fans take these guys seriously if the company itself refuses to? Add in atrocious announcing and paint-by-number finishing sequences that offer routinely the following sequence: Ref incompetence/bump/outside interference/finish... why watch something that doesn't routinely have a clear outcome?
Good beats bad, bad beats good, we go to the next week. Instead with TNA, you get far too many weeks of a heel gets beat up by a stronger heel, thus the beaten is now a face, but really no one cares. Even Lex Luger would get confused in how often TNA changes it's face/heel roles. That's not a good thing.
So, basically, TNA has a long way to go if they ever want me to watch routinely; because of the incomprehensible plotting and characterizations they offer, made worse by the fact they already are on television in a spot with far more entertaining shows available.
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I've never watched TNA for more than a few minutes at a time - so I'm not someone who has turned his back on the product, more someone that has never seen reason to watch it despite the fact that I watch Raw, Smackdown and yes, even ECW week in, week out. There are innumerable reasons I don't watch TNA. Here's a quick rundown:
1. Lack of professionalism: From the production values to the low-brow comedy everything about TNA comes off as unprofessional. WWE is so slick that it comes across as a real TV show - a spectacle. TNA is just unrefined and unrealistic. It looks like it's thrown together by comparison - and not in a raw, edgy way like the old ECW. Just WWE-lite.
2. Lack of new talent: There's no doubt TNA has a wealth of talent at its disposal, but how much of this talent is suitably positioned? Only now are Samoa Joe and A.J. Styles getting appropriate pushes and, really, they missed the boat with both performers much as WWE did with Rob Van Dam in 2002 and Randy Orton in 2004. I'm bored with them now - they'll have great matches, sure, but you have to capitalise on crowds when they're hot for a superstar. WWE did it with Steve Austin and The Rock. Have no lessons been learned?
3. Washed-up stars: I've been a wrestling fan for more than 20 years and Kurt Angle is one of my favorite performers of all time. However, I have no wish to watch him following the circumstances in which he left WWE - Kurt should have taken time to get himself well. It sickened me that TNA brought him in as quickly as they did without giving him time to get healthy. Booker T is a mid-carder, Nash should have retired five years ago and Sting, really? A top draw at his age? Please.
4. Over-hyped women's division: I am a strong believer that women's wrestling can play a crucial part in a TV show and I look forward to the diva matches on Raw each week, so thepositive reviews of TNA's women's division encouraged me to take a look. However, this division has been ludicrously over-hyped. The reason it pops the highest quarter hour ratings is because men channel surf and stop briefly to see attractive women bounce around on a show aptly named - TNA! There's nothing sustainable about that audience (they'll tune out when the segment ends) and the idea of a spin-off and extra segments for the women is ludicrous; people will only watch them in short bursts, a full hour would kill the mystique. This isn't really a reason why I don't watch TNA, more a pet hate of the direction they're about to take. And the women in TNA are no better than anyone in WWE - Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, Victoria, Melina, Natalya, and Candice are all strong workers, and I see little wrong with the performances of Michelle, Cherry, Kelly, and Layla as girls who can be mixed in to keep things fresh or treated as effective ''jobbers'' to the more high profile females. TNA has Kong, Kim, and ODB with Roxxi and Angelina capable of mixing things up. It's no better than WWE. And please don't tell me Velvet Sky can work - she's being carried by a tag partner now, much as she was in the indies.
5. Competition and over saturated market: When Nitro and Raw competed, they went head to head. That meant whichever company you chose you were only watching wrestling on that one night a week - with later Thunder and Smackdown being added to the mix. Now you have three separate nights with WWE action and an additional night with TNA. It's also a night where TNA goes head-to-head with strong and successful TV shows such as CSI, Survivor, and even during the summer the likes of So You Think You Can Dance. I simply have no motivation to give my Thursday nights to TNA.
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In todays poll you asked to specify why I picked other. To be honest I just never remember to set the DVR nor do I remember that there is a replay 99 percent of the time. It's not so much that my time is limited I just never got around to setting up the DVR for Impact or smackdown. Because at this point in both shows life cycles the storylines are predictable. The roster is mainly older wrestlers holding onto a spot like in WCW. The few younger wrestlers that I would want to watch are either severly underpushed or, in Smackdown's case, showing up on Raw before the end of the year.
My other main reason is: Well, if I have to watch another gimmick match that involves some sort of cage, ladder, shark tank, or purple mushrooms on a pole from TNA, I'm going to stop watching wrestling all together. They talk about how they are professional wrestling, not sports entertainment, but creating these gimmick matches that are something out of a online e-fed wont make people take you seriously. I don't. I've never wanted to watch any of the gimmick matches outside of the Six Sides of Steel match between Triple X and America's Most Wanted. And that was almost four years ago.
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TNA turns its own stars into parodies of their former selves. Samoa Joe from a killer badass into a whiny crybaby. Kurt Angle from world-class athletic talent into a dysfunctional husband. The New Age Outlaws into the New Age Outlaws v2007. End of the day, why should fans take these guys seriously if the company itself refuses to? Add in atrocious announcing and paint-by-number finishing sequences that offer routinely the following sequence: Ref incompetence/bump/outside interference/finish... why watch something that doesn't routinely have a clear outcome?
Good beats bad, bad beats good, we go to the next week. Instead with TNA, you get far too many weeks of a heel gets beat up by a stronger heel, thus the beaten is now a face, but really no one cares. Even Lex Luger would get confused in how often TNA changes it's face/heel roles. That's not a good thing.
So, basically, TNA has a long way to go if they ever want me to watch routinely; because of the incomprehensible plotting and characterizations they offer, made worse by the fact they already are on television in a spot with far more entertaining shows available.
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I've never watched TNA for more than a few minutes at a time - so I'm not someone who has turned his back on the product, more someone that has never seen reason to watch it despite the fact that I watch Raw, Smackdown and yes, even ECW week in, week out. There are innumerable reasons I don't watch TNA. Here's a quick rundown:
1. Lack of professionalism: From the production values to the low-brow comedy everything about TNA comes off as unprofessional. WWE is so slick that it comes across as a real TV show - a spectacle. TNA is just unrefined and unrealistic. It looks like it's thrown together by comparison - and not in a raw, edgy way like the old ECW. Just WWE-lite.
2. Lack of new talent: There's no doubt TNA has a wealth of talent at its disposal, but how much of this talent is suitably positioned? Only now are Samoa Joe and A.J. Styles getting appropriate pushes and, really, they missed the boat with both performers much as WWE did with Rob Van Dam in 2002 and Randy Orton in 2004. I'm bored with them now - they'll have great matches, sure, but you have to capitalise on crowds when they're hot for a superstar. WWE did it with Steve Austin and The Rock. Have no lessons been learned?
3. Washed-up stars: I've been a wrestling fan for more than 20 years and Kurt Angle is one of my favorite performers of all time. However, I have no wish to watch him following the circumstances in which he left WWE - Kurt should have taken time to get himself well. It sickened me that TNA brought him in as quickly as they did without giving him time to get healthy. Booker T is a mid-carder, Nash should have retired five years ago and Sting, really? A top draw at his age? Please.
4. Over-hyped women's division: I am a strong believer that women's wrestling can play a crucial part in a TV show and I look forward to the diva matches on Raw each week, so thepositive reviews of TNA's women's division encouraged me to take a look. However, this division has been ludicrously over-hyped. The reason it pops the highest quarter hour ratings is because men channel surf and stop briefly to see attractive women bounce around on a show aptly named - TNA! There's nothing sustainable about that audience (they'll tune out when the segment ends) and the idea of a spin-off and extra segments for the women is ludicrous; people will only watch them in short bursts, a full hour would kill the mystique. This isn't really a reason why I don't watch TNA, more a pet hate of the direction they're about to take. And the women in TNA are no better than anyone in WWE - Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, Victoria, Melina, Natalya, and Candice are all strong workers, and I see little wrong with the performances of Michelle, Cherry, Kelly, and Layla as girls who can be mixed in to keep things fresh or treated as effective ''jobbers'' to the more high profile females. TNA has Kong, Kim, and ODB with Roxxi and Angelina capable of mixing things up. It's no better than WWE. And please don't tell me Velvet Sky can work - she's being carried by a tag partner now, much as she was in the indies.
5. Competition and over saturated market: When Nitro and Raw competed, they went head to head. That meant whichever company you chose you were only watching wrestling on that one night a week - with later Thunder and Smackdown being added to the mix. Now you have three separate nights with WWE action and an additional night with TNA. It's also a night where TNA goes head-to-head with strong and successful TV shows such as CSI, Survivor, and even during the summer the likes of So You Think You Can Dance. I simply have no motivation to give my Thursday nights to TNA.
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