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Post by ZT on Sept 30, 2009 22:12:47 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I didn't realize those weak punches he was throwing counted as something. He was doing no real damage and the only reason it looked real bad was because Kimbo couldn't move under Nelson's gut.
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Post by stoningtonj on Sept 30, 2009 22:13:41 GMT -5
LMAO ...Kimbo Slice.....HAHA!
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Post by Liv Is Life on Sept 30, 2009 22:17:05 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but that was awful. Roy Nelson shouldn't have been as happy with that performance, because it just was not good. They should have been stood up before Nelson finally trapped the arm and started bringing down the weakest looking shots I've seen in a long time. Hell, most of the time it looked like he was hitting his fat gut, instead of Kimbo's head.. Yea your right trying to improve posistion means the ref shoukld stand it up. Wow. He tried what, maybe 3 times after he got Kimbo down? The third time he finally trapped Kimbo's arm and smothered him for the win. Other then that, Nelson wasn't doing a damn thing to try and improve his position..
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Post by ballinbrother44 on Sept 30, 2009 22:18:20 GMT -5
Three boring fights in a row. I hope this season picks up.
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Post by hammer on Sept 30, 2009 22:18:20 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I didn't realize those weak punches he was throwing counted as something. He was doing no real damage and the only reason it looked real bad was because Kimbo couldn't move under Nelson's gut. gut or not, kimbo couldnt move anywhere while on the ground. nelson wasnt hitting him with crushing blows... but youre still laying there, on the ground, your arms pinned, being punched in the top of the head... no matter how hard or soft. sorry... nelson dominated, kimbo had 1 or 2 punches that meant a ing thing. and yes... the previews for next week, showed 2 things... 1, kimbos gonna come back in for marcus jones. and 2, that roy nelson now has a gigantic head, and is going against rashad and his trainers.
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Post by ZT on Sept 30, 2009 22:18:22 GMT -5
Yea your right trying to improve posistion means the ref shoukld stand it up. Wow. He tried what, maybe 3 times after he got Kimbo down? The third time he finally trapped Kimbo's arm and smothered him for the win. Other then that, Nelson wasn't doing a damn thing to try and improve his position.. Shhh.... don't make a logical point, or Sapp will attack you too.
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Post by uvfan1 on Sept 30, 2009 22:19:30 GMT -5
Yea your right trying to improve posistion means the ref shoukld stand it up. Wow. He tried what, maybe 3 times after he got Kimbo down? The third time he finally trapped Kimbo's arm and smothered him for the win. Other then that, Nelson wasn't doing a damn thing to try and improve his position.. Were you watching the fight? He was trying the whole time thats why he Got the crucifix. Wow, somebodys butthurt because a fat guy won.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 30, 2009 22:19:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I didn't realize those weak punches he was throwing counted as something. He was doing no real damage and the only reason it looked real bad was because Kimbo couldn't move under Nelson's gut. Kimbo wasn't active at all nor was he trying to advance his position. Nelson did transitions on the ground very easily.
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Post by Liv Is Life on Sept 30, 2009 22:25:32 GMT -5
He tried what, maybe 3 times after he got Kimbo down? The third time he finally trapped Kimbo's arm and smothered him for the win. Other then that, Nelson wasn't doing a damn thing to try and improve his position.. Were you watching the fight? He was trying the whole time thats why he Got the crucifix. Wow, somebodys butthurt because a fat guy won. I have no problem that a "fat guy" won, more power to Roy. I do have a problem with that whole fight though. I understand that Kimbo didn't do a damn thing once Roy got him down, but Roy also did NO damage to Kimbo. Sure he hit those little punches, but those were extremely weak shots. At one point, I sat there and watched him throw two of the punches DIRECTLY into his own stomach. In my opinion, they weren't active enough before Nelson started going for the crucifix, and I believe they should have been stood back up. You obviously feel different, that's great, but you're not going to change my opinion on the matter either..
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Post by hammer on Sept 30, 2009 22:26:22 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I didn't realize those weak punches he was throwing counted as something. He was doing no real damage and the only reason it looked real bad was because Kimbo couldn't move under Nelson's gut. gut or not, kimbo couldnt move anywhere while on the ground. nelson wasnt hitting him with crushing blows... but youre still laying there, on the ground, your arms pinned, being punched in the top of the head... no matter how hard or soft. sorry... nelson dominated, kimbo had 1 or 2 punches that meant a ing thing. and yes... the previews for next week, showed 2 things... 1, kimbos gonna come back in for marcus jones. and 2, that roy nelson now has a gigantic head, and is going against rashad and his trainers. "3 things... 1. rashad and rampage are still the most entertaining thing on the show, including the fights. when rashad couldnt even look rampage in the eyes, while rampage was ripping him apart telling him that the only reason he fought jardine, was because shad was too scared to lose his belt and fight q, was outright fantastic. 2. mcsweeney talking to rampage... what? the only reason you escaped an amateur last week, was because he had the stamina of a snail. shivers dominated, when he had a breath in his body. id have loved to see page knock him the out. 3. nelson outright dominated. i dont care about what dana said after the fight... yea, the punches were not knockout punches. but first, a man that size punching you in the top of the head, is gonna hurt. second, kimbo was pinned down, and he wasnt even making an oppurtunity at changing the position. he was being dominated... and infact, was outright dominated. and yes... the previews for next week, showed 2 things... 1, kimbos gonna come back in for marcus jones. and 2, that roy nelson now has a gigantic head, and is going against rashad and his trainers. i look forward to both things, because i like kimbo, and i like that kimbo is willing to learn... but he got ALOT ALOT ALOT to learn. " i said that somewhere else. yea, just to post all my thoughts on this weeks episode here as well.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 30, 2009 22:27:37 GMT -5
Fights that end with "NO damage" being done happen all the time in MMA. I guess you just don't pay attention that much.
The rule is if you are not INTELLIGENTLY DEFENDING YOURSELF, which Kimbo was NOT doing, the fight will be stopped.
It doesn't matter anyway. Kimbo will fight again on this season and on the finale in December.
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Post by NYdream™ on Sept 30, 2009 22:30:07 GMT -5
This does not bother me a bit. Im a BIG Big Country fan and I love Kimbo too. I can see Kimbo coming back and maybe picking up a win but its funny that he will be back once someone gets injured. Of course they would do that. Oh well im psyched for it I like Kimbo but im glad Nelson won. I do agree with another thing though. Nelson did NO damage I agree with that. But Kimbo was not defending anything whatsoever so thats just the way the game goes...
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Post by uvfan1 on Sept 30, 2009 22:31:05 GMT -5
Were you watching the fight? He was trying the whole time thats why he Got the crucifix. Wow, somebodys butthurt because a fat guy won. I have no problem that a "fat guy" won, more power to Roy. I do have a problem with that whole fight though. I understand that Kimbo didn't do a damn thing once Roy got him down, but Roy also did NO damage to Kimbo. Sure he hit those little punches, but those were extremely weak shots. At one point, I sat there and watched him throw two of the punches DIRECTLY into his own stomach. In my opinion, they weren't active enough before Nelson started going for the crucifix, and I believe they should have been stood back up. You obviously feel different, that's great, but you're not going to change my opinion on the matter either.. I do think you are right about the punches they didn't look bad at all. But I think the ref had to stop it because that would of been the whole round, since Kimbo couldnt move. That's cool not trying to change them.
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Post by Liv Is Life on Sept 30, 2009 22:31:17 GMT -5
Fights that end with "NO damage" being done happen all the time in MMA. I guess you just don't pay attention that much. The rule is if you are not INTELLIGENTLY DEFENDING YOURSELF, which Kimbo was NOT doing, the fight will be stopped. It doesn't matter anyway. Kimbo will fight again on this season and on the finale in December. I absolutely do concede that, as I stated, I know Kimbo didn't do a damn thing once put on the ground. My biggest thing is, Nelson shouldn't have been nearly as happy or excited with how he won that fight as he was..
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Post by hammer on Sept 30, 2009 22:31:37 GMT -5
Were you watching the fight? He was trying the whole time thats why he Got the crucifix. Wow, somebodys butthurt because a fat guy won. I have no problem that a "fat guy" won, more power to Roy. I do have a problem with that whole fight though. I understand that Kimbo didn't do a damn thing once Roy got him down, but Roy also did NO damage to Kimbo. Sure he hit those little punches, but those were extremely weak shots. At one point, I sat there and watched him throw two of the punches DIRECTLY into his own stomach. In my opinion, they weren't active enough before Nelson started going for the crucifix, and I believe they should have been stood back up. You obviously feel different, that's great, but you're not going to change my opinion on the matter either.. zero reason to stand them up ZERO. nelson was still active... im not gonna sit here and debate how hard the punches were, because i wasnt underneath them. fact of the matter is, nelson was in a dominant position, and judging by how in 2 different rounds, kimbo did nothing to get out from underneath it, it was a dominant position. and jabs can knock somebody out too... maybe not roy nelsons jabs... but ask forrest about spiders jabs. jabs are nothing to scoff at, a man thats 264 pounds punching you in the top of the head... aint tap dancing sir. nelson dominated the fight... a stoppage may not have been neccessary because of the how we as fans perceive how hard nelsons punches were coming in... but do you let kimbo get punched in the top of the head for the next 3 minutes hoping he'll show some ounce of a ground game and get out of it?
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 30, 2009 22:32:01 GMT -5
I know who won next weeks fight. I do. And I know how it was won. I just don't know the final outcome of the season. Sorry, but you made yourself look like a ing idiot here.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 30, 2009 22:33:30 GMT -5
Fights that end with "NO damage" being done happen all the time in MMA. I guess you just don't pay attention that much. The rule is if you are not INTELLIGENTLY DEFENDING YOURSELF, which Kimbo was NOT doing, the fight will be stopped. It doesn't matter anyway. Kimbo will fight again on this season and on the finale in December. I absolutely do concede that, as I stated, I know Kimbo didn't do a damn thing once put on the ground. My biggest thing is, Nelson shouldn't have been nearly as happy or excited with how he won that fight as he was.. None of the wins on TUF count towards their real record anyway, so it's nothing to lose sleep over.
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Post by Liv Is Life on Sept 30, 2009 22:33:43 GMT -5
I have no problem that a "fat guy" won, more power to Roy. I do have a problem with that whole fight though. I understand that Kimbo didn't do a damn thing once Roy got him down, but Roy also did NO damage to Kimbo. Sure he hit those little punches, but those were extremely weak shots. At one point, I sat there and watched him throw two of the punches DIRECTLY into his own stomach. In my opinion, they weren't active enough before Nelson started going for the crucifix, and I believe they should have been stood back up. You obviously feel different, that's great, but you're not going to change my opinion on the matter either.. I do think you are right about the punches they didn't look bad at all. But I think the ref had to stop it because that would of been the whole round, since Kimbo couldnt move. That's cool not trying to change them. I agree with the fact that once Nelson finally locked Kimbo's arm, he wasn't going to go anywhere. At that point the stoppage was correct..
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Post by Liv Is Life on Sept 30, 2009 22:36:18 GMT -5
I absolutely do concede that, as I stated, I know Kimbo didn't do a damn thing once put on the ground. My biggest thing is, Nelson shouldn't have been nearly as happy or excited with how he won that fight as he was.. None of the wins on TUF count towards their real record anyway, so it's nothing to lose sleep over. Good enough point. Guess it really doesn't matter either way as Kimbo will most likely be back next episode anyway..
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 30, 2009 22:38:21 GMT -5
He'll be back and he has already said he's going to fight at the finale in December.
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